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rkkwan Sep 1, 08 7:00 pm

Tomorrow is [2-Sep-2008], massive ramp down of domestic schedule
 
Tomorrow we'll see one of the largest cut in capacity since 9/11. Here are some of the cuts, compared to last week:

Cleveland especially is going to lose a lot of flights (though some are seasonal anyways:

- lost service to ABQ, AUS, BHM, BNA, CHS, CRW, CVG, DSM, DTW, GRB, GSO, IAD, JAX, LEX, LIT, MEM, MIA, NAS, ORF, OKC, OMA, SAT, SAN, SAV, SJU, TOL, TUL, YOW

- reduced frequency to ATL, BOS, LAX, MCO, PWM, RDU, SFO, TPA, YYZ

- seasonal service to LGW and CDG ends

- downgrades of aircraft on BDL, RSW, SDF, MSN etc.

New flights will start to: DUJ (Du Bois/Jefferson County), FKL (Franklin, PA), LWB (Greenbrier, WV). And increased service to JFK (from 1x to 3x Q200).

rkkwan Sep 1, 08 7:31 pm

Houston doesn't fare as bad. It will

- lose service to BDL, CLO, CHA, GYE, IAD, LOV, MGM, NAS, OAK, RNO, SRQ, TLH

- lose frequencies to BOS, ORD, DAL, DEN, GUA, JFK, LAX, LFT, LIR, LIT, MCO, MFE, MIA, RSW, SAN, SDF, SEA, SJU, TUS, TYS, VPS, YVR, etc

While many of the frequency cuts are normal for season, some are very severe cut, and very early in the season. For example, MCO from 7x to 5x; or LAX from 13x to 10x.

OptionsCLE Sep 1, 08 7:34 pm

Ouch. It still hurts to look at all of those cuts!

Aside from SAN and LAX I can't say that the cuts/reductions will affect me much, though I did fly CLE-BNA and BNA-CLE 24 times over the last 5 years. I'm glad I don't need to fly that route anymore.

rkkwan Sep 1, 08 7:55 pm

Meanwhile, Newark will:

- lose service to ABQ, ACK, CCS, CGN, DAB, LIR, SLC, SJC, SRQ,

- lose frequencies to ATL, CHS, CUN, FLL, JAX, MCO, MIA, MSY, RSW, LGW, SAN, SAV, SFO, SJU, TPA

But it will gain a frequency to BHM, CLT, RIC, STL, YYZ; BOS will see larger 737 versions on many flights and not just 735s.

Of course big cuts are to FL, especially FLL, which goes from 9x to 6x. But also TPA, from 6x to 4x. SJU goes from 5x to 2x.

LGW loses one of the two 757s, so LGW will only get two flights a day. One from IAH (764), and one from EWR (752).

doobierw Sep 1, 08 8:02 pm

And payroll will stop cutting paychecks for 180 of our junior pilots...... :td:

DRW

OPFlyer Sep 1, 08 8:04 pm


Originally Posted by rkkwan (Post 10294421)
Houston doesn't fare as bad. It will
- lose frequencies to[...]MFE

FYI: MFE doesn't really lose anything. We lose 1 COEX flight on Saturday (the 6:15) but we see #1585 upgraded to a 738 from a 735/3 for most days.

rkkwan Sep 1, 08 8:40 pm

OPFlyer - Thanks for pointing that out.

Anyways, this also marks the end of stations ACK, CHA, CGN, OAK, RNO, SRQ, TOL; and I believe also CLO, GYE, and perhaps a couple other places in Latin America and Caribbean.

I am sure many of the 735s will be quickly parked.

And of course, XJET is also ending its branded operations.

ZonaFlyer Sep 2, 08 12:29 am

Newark also loses service to TUS.

What is unfortunate about the IAH-TUS cuts is that all flights are now on ERJ's. :td:

fozz Sep 2, 08 1:51 am

The SAN cuts are normal for this time of year. For years, the CLE-SAN flight has been seasonal and there are only three EWR-SAN flights during most of the year.

HeadInTheClouds Sep 2, 08 5:20 am


Originally Posted by rkkwan (Post 10294322)
- reduced frequency to ATL, BOS, LAX, MCO, PWM, RDU, SFO, TPA, YYZ

Looks like STL also lost a frequency to CLE, and in fact loses all service on Saturdays.

ssullivan Sep 2, 08 7:52 am

Service to JFK from both IAH and CLE ends later this month, around September 26-27 too.

Billiken Sep 2, 08 7:59 am


Originally Posted by HeadInTheClouds (Post 10296147)
Looks like STL also lost a frequency to CLE, and in fact loses all service on Saturdays.

Correct...the cutting of service on Saturdays is an annual event.

From NYC Sep 2, 08 9:04 am

And, interestingly, the price of jet fuel has gone down about $1.00/gallon, or about 23%, since July, according to an article in today’s NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/bu...l?ref=business

“The average price for jet fuel last week was $3.32 a gallon, according to the Department of Energy.

The price of jet fuel peaked in July at $4.27, prompting airlines to take a series of drastic measures that are affecting travelers.“

Of course, it’s also presently more than $1.00 higher than it was post-Katrina, 3 years ago, when it jumped up to $2.42/gallon, a spike of about 50 cents from before it hit New Orleans and the Gulf.

So, depending on how CO hedged fuel prices a short while ago, this drop in the price of jet fuel may mean very little to CO.

supermasterphil Sep 2, 08 9:08 am


Originally Posted by doobierw (Post 10294554)
And payroll will stop cutting paychecks for 180 of our junior pilots...... :td:

DRW

What does that mean? Can you enlighten that some more please?

doobierw Sep 2, 08 9:30 am


Originally Posted by supermasterphil (Post 10296990)
What does that mean? Can you enlighten that some more please?

Due to the schedule cuts and parking of aircraft, the airline wanted to furlough 450-500 of our 5,000 pilots. They offered several programs to mitigate the total numbers including early retirements for our senior pilots, a leave of absence program, and a voluntary reduced flying (VRF) program which cut 25% of one's schedule for the next 18 months.

I believe they had approx. 160 take the early retirement and had over 100 take the leave of absence. Another 160 or so took the long term VRF, which had the effect of reducing approx. 40 furloughs.

The company came to the union this week and offered 'no furloughs' in exchange for relief on several contract provisions. Tying in furloughs with contract negotiations torqued off quite a few people and both the company and the union drew lines in the sand if you will......the union didn't want to open Pandora's Box, and the company was using these 180 guys as bargaining leverage. The company is trying to relax our scope clause (RJ flying, partner airline codeshare, etc.) and wanted ALPA to relax scope in exchange for those jobs.

Anyhow, the bottom line is that 180 of our junior guys are hitting the streets this week.....

DRW


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