CO introduces new BusinessFirst seat

 
Old Jul 23, 08, 3:49 am
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CO introduces new BusinessFirst seat

The new BusinessFirst seat is featured in the August 2008 Continental magazine. The August issue is available in the EWR PC.

The seat looks the same as the new Delta BusinessElite seat - layflat, staggered arrangement with feet under armrest of row in front. The new product is to be available starting in late 2009.
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Old Jul 23, 08, 4:15 am
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August Magazine is live online now

See:

http://magazine.continental.com/2008...ion-lap-luxury

also Larry's comments...

http://magazine.continental.com/2008...tinentals-view
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Thanks for the links!

1. Not surprising they choose this one, similar to DL's. This is simply the best design out there now for CO's needs, as it's the flat bed that takes up the least room and don't require seats that face backwards. In fact, they take up less room then the current BF seats in the 767/777, so you may see more than 50 seats in a 772, for example.

Edit: I see in the picture that the two side-by-side seats are slightly staggered. That should give it more shoulder room, if not width, than the DL design.

2. Larry says beginning later next year. That may mean starting on the two new 772 to be delivered then, if I read it correctly. Great that they won't be waiting for the 787.

3. I still can't see how it'll be configured on the 752. Perhaps, a 2-1 seating? 5 rows of 3 seats each, for just one fewer seat than then current BF cabin? That single side will simply be awesome for single traveler.

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It still looks like you have to climb over the aisle seat if you are in the window seat. For me this is the worst part of any biz seat when you are travelling alone.

Why wouldn't CO go with the herringbone layout that DL is using on their 777's.
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It still looks like you have to climb over the aisle seat if you are in the window seat. For me this is the worst part of any biz seat when you are travelling alone.

Why wouldn't CO go with the herringbone layout that DL is using on their 777's.
Herringbone takes up too much space, and it also displeases a lot of people traveling together.
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This is very good news. In my opinion, today, CO offers an excellent BF product - except for the seat. I look forward to spending 100k or so miles in the new seat every year.

Glad to see it's a true lie-flat (parallel to the floor). I slide out of 180-degree seats that are angled, and have to keep a "bump" in the seat to really sleep.
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I think it's great that the new seat has finally been announced. It's long overdue. However, I don't get why CO is waiting so long to start installing them. Why not start the process now whenever there are enough of the seats to retrofit a plane that's being serviced, and start catching up to the other airlines that have started doing so? Perhaps because CO's fleet size is so small that the extra time it would take doesn't allow for it?
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I think we can all be relieved that the seat will be "state-of-the-art." Otherwise looks like a good commonsense solution that keeps the seat width premium.


"The concept for this unique seat came about two years ago, when the Continental team was working with Boeing on the design of the new 787 Dreamliner aircraft. It was decided that the plane would feature a state-of-the-art seat that would redefine what it means to fly comfortably."
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Splendid.. But late 2009? How long will the roll out take?
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Originally Posted by rkkwan View Post
Herringbone takes up too much space, and it also displeases a lot of people traveling together.
True but I would guess that the majority of people are solor travelers in BF (I may be wrong). Even when flying with someone I prefer the herringbone seats like DL or VS. The feel of almost total enclosure is so much better than being right next to someone even with a divider.

But I am very happy that CO has decided to go completely flat. That alone is worth any other deficiencies in the layout of the seats.
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I wish they would be speeding this up. A date goal like 2010 is a bit far off.
To bad they won't be doing mini suites..
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No mention of installing them on the 767-400s.. which I guess implies that those won't remain in the fleet long term.
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Sweet! I can't wait for these lie-flats to hit the fleet.
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I wish they would be speeding this up. A date goal like 2010 is a bit far off.
To bad they won't be doing mini suites..
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