co/ua in new alliance talks
May 14, 2008, 6:20 pm
#1
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May 14, 2008, 6:35 pm
#2
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Lets hope this doesnt happen
Co do you have some sort of obsession with UA ?
this looks like a way for UA to raise prices( which they do so rarely) and then blame the increase on alliance partners
Avoid like the plague !! Please
this looks like a way for UA to raise prices( which they do so rarely) and then blame the increase on alliance partners
Avoid like the plague !! Please
May 14, 2008, 6:49 pm
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UA is the one with the obsession. They need all the help they can get.
May 14, 2008, 7:00 pm
#4
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There are some segments of the UA network that CO would like to have, including the Asia market, LHR and the west coast north/south routes. Given the mess of an outright merger, this is a good stepping stone for CO. Yes, I know there are a lot of warts on the idea but in a lot of ways it makes good sense.
Let's see how it shakes out.
Let's see how it shakes out.
May 14, 2008, 7:51 pm
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While I like the idea of CO acquiring routes and equipment from UA, I absolutely refuse to spend a dime on a UA flight. I'm not even certain I would agree to a reward ticket with a significant UA segment.
I understand the route structure is much more complementary than with AA, but ewwww.
I understand the route structure is much more complementary than with AA, but ewwww.
May 14, 2008, 8:31 pm
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This would have a lot more benefits, IMHO, than a hookup with AA. 
I must not be getting enough of the blue COol-aid but I just don't see how UA is that much worse than CO. Sure there are downsides...and some significant ones. There are with CO too.
I must not be getting enough of the blue COol-aid but I just don't see how UA is that much worse than CO. Sure there are downsides...and some significant ones. There are with CO too.
May 14, 2008, 8:31 pm
#7
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Well, CO is not going to stay in SkyTeam with a merged DL/NW. That leaves * Alliance or OneWorld. If I had my druthers, I'd choose Star.
May 14, 2008, 8:49 pm
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As it's been said, the CO and UA route networks really are far more complimentary then CO and AA. The asian routes are a true goldmine and these are markets CO can't easily break into between lack of widebodies and route authorities. UA already has all that covered.
May 14, 2008, 10:14 pm
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I wonder if UA will grant access to Economy Plus for Onepass Elites? They don't allow any other Elites from Star Alliance partners but this is something CO should definitely push for in the event an alliance forms between UA and CO.
May 14, 2008, 11:44 pm
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Please say it aint so. If this happens its because UA is so out of control even US doesn't want to be bothered.
May 15, 2008, 12:21 am
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With UA eliminating the 500-mile minimums then I would expect a merger with US.
May 15, 2008, 12:25 am
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Other than a few miserable hubs (IAD,ORD - which AA has too) UA is much better for CO to form an allance (notice no MERGER) than AA (think E+). AAs MD80s are awful and UA even has FC on their ERJ and CRJ. Plus .. Star > Oneworld..by a long shot. THe only problem is tilton has been trying to get the hell out of CHicago for a while and im not so sure continental will want to deal with United management...we'll see
May 15, 2008, 12:53 am
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And all of them will try to blame it on something/someone else. I think the deal outlined in the article could be a positive for CO. For those that want to see CO continue to exist, then this would mean it could be a positive for you, as well.
I wouldn't read into this. I think we will find that, like the 2nd bag charge, a lot of these things will be gaining traction, with a lot of the carriers.
Last edited by pbarnette; May 15, 2008 at 2:03 am
May 15, 2008, 5:54 am
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May 15, 2008, 6:03 am
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Maybe UA will get involved with MR too
