American Airlines In Talks With Continental
Apr 25, 08, 2:56 pm
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where oneworld comes across as somewhat bare compared to * is continental Europe. oneworld lacks, at present, a high-capacity/high-efficiency hub for Europe access. There aren't a ton of flights to IB's hub at MAD, and while there is a lot of LHR service, it can't be considered a high-efficiency choice for connectors (at least until the mess at LHR T5 is sorted). The other current european members are Malev and Finnair, both relatively small. CO's relative success at direct flights to "secondary" European cities would significantly augment overall access for the alliance.
Apr 25, 08, 2:57 pm
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CO already has two flights to NRT a day, one to HKG, and of course just paid a huge amount for LHR. These routes will all be worth more if they switch to oneworld. And of course, we'll expect more flights to MAD and fewer to AMS/CDG.
What is more troublesome for the casual leisure flyer is the lousy FF miles many of the oneworld partners give out. Even for AAdvantage, I believe you'll find many 70%, 25% and tonnes of 0% on the discount Y fares. And I'm talking about RDM, not EQM. I won't expect they'll offer more Onepass than AAdvantage miles.
What is more troublesome for the casual leisure flyer is the lousy FF miles many of the oneworld partners give out. Even for AAdvantage, I believe you'll find many 70%, 25% and tonnes of 0% on the discount Y fares. And I'm talking about RDM, not EQM. I won't expect they'll offer more Onepass than AAdvantage miles.
Apr 25, 08, 3:08 pm
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Did someone say Finnair?
Please bring the MD-11 to IAH before they go out of passenger service!
Please bring the MD-11 to IAH before they go out of passenger service!
Apr 25, 08, 3:15 pm
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CO already has two flights to NRT a day, one to HKG, and of course just paid a huge amount for LHR. These routes will all be worth more if they switch to oneworld. And of course, we'll expect more flights to MAD and fewer to AMS/CDG.
What is more troublesome for the casual leisure flyer is the lousy FF miles many of the oneworld partners give out. Even for AAdvantage, I believe you'll find many 70%, 25% and tonnes of 0% on the discount Y fares. And I'm talking about RDM, not EQM. I won't expect they'll offer more Onepass than AAdvantage miles.
What is more troublesome for the casual leisure flyer is the lousy FF miles many of the oneworld partners give out. Even for AAdvantage, I believe you'll find many 70%, 25% and tonnes of 0% on the discount Y fares. And I'm talking about RDM, not EQM. I won't expect they'll offer more Onepass than AAdvantage miles.
Here is a link to the individual chart for each of the airlines that AA code shares with. OneWorld members are denoted on the page.
http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...lines/main.jsp
This might give you some idea as to what you should expect from OneWorld should CO join.
Apr 25, 08, 3:16 pm
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you'd think they might edit it before putting it across the wire...
American Airlines' talks with Continental are focused on forming an alliance. Meanwhile. Continental is in advanced merger talks with United Airlines.
Apr 25, 08, 3:25 pm
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Apr 25, 08, 3:30 pm
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Why not just do IAD-AMS? I saw a KL MD-11 at IAD the other day, but I didn't check the schedule to see whether it was the result of an equipment swap or just normal equipment rotation.
Apr 25, 08, 3:33 pm
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Apr 25, 08, 3:40 pm
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COUA please
No COAA
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Apr 25, 08, 3:43 pm
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Apr 25, 08, 3:45 pm
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Apr 25, 08, 3:51 pm
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I am sorry. But I really think a CO/UA merger will be pretty disastrous. If the choices are merger with UA or alliance with AA, I'll much prefer the latter.
Apr 25, 08, 3:53 pm
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Apr 25, 08, 3:54 pm
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I do not necessarily disagree that a CO UA meger would be disastrous from an operational and customer service standpoint. Nontheless, when the dust settles, I would rather have access to *A than oneworld. You might be right, though, that an alliance with AA would be less painful for the customer than a merger with UA.
