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American Airlines In Talks With Continental

 
Old May 24, 08, 1:57 am
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Originally Posted by ContinentalFan
How do you suggest they change?
Everybody has to bring their own barrel of fuel to the airport to burn for the flight
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Old May 24, 08, 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by rln
Don't intend this in a "mean" way, but there has been a certain smugness on this site. The theme is something like - yeah, everybody's hurting, but Continental is a cut above nearly everyone else and isn't feeling quite the same level of hurt.
Smug attitudes...on FlyerTalk? Come on now. You can't be serious.

As for a real answer to that question, the smugness that you perceive is in direct correlation to this forum consisting of a group of (mostly) satisfied customers. Their airline of choice is doing the best it can given the times, and is truly not in as much danger as some others. It's not smug in this case; the numbers do back up that CO is the healthiest horse in a race of glue-factory nags.

Originally Posted by ContinentalFan
The other lesson here is that reorganization hasn't really helped some other carriers: LCC and UAUA in particular. The benefits dissipate in about a year. In the next round of bankruptcies, it looks like it's only a matter of time, I'd like to see the first carrier forced into chapter 7.
Come on. LCC (US Airways, for those who don't speak ticker - yeah, amazing that they picked that symbol) and UA can't be considered as examples of what to do in a bankruptcy. I think it's a flawed assumption that their respective management teams know how to handle the situation (Parker) or could even care themselves (Tilton) about what comes on the back end of it. The two carriers are racing for the bottom of the barrel, and if they merge, the bottom will consist of them.
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Old May 24, 08, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike
Smug attitudes...on FlyerTalk? Come on now. You can't be serious.

As for a real answer to that question, the smugness that you perceive is in direct correlation to this forum consisting of a group of (mostly) satisfied customers. Their airline of choice is doing the best it can given the times, and is truly not in as much danger as some others. It's not smug in this case; the numbers do back up that CO is the healthiest horse in a race of glue-factory nags.



Come on. LCC (US Airways, for those who don't speak ticker - yeah, amazing that they picked that symbol) and UA can't be considered as examples of what to do in a bankruptcy. I think it's a flawed assumption that their respective management teams know how to handle the situation (Parker) or could even care themselves (Tilton) about what comes on the back end of it. The two carriers are racing for the bottom of the barrel, and if they merge, the bottom will consist of them.
You missed the point. I didn't say anything about management. The benefits of bankruptcy disappear rapidly for any carrier, regardless of who's at the helm. It was true for CO with its two filings. When talking about what UAUA did during reorganization, the carrier didn't do anything dramatically different than the actions taken by other airlines in a similar situation--including CAL. The point isn't about management; it's about the benefits of entering C11; for example, benefits disappeared for CAL within about eighteen months after emerging--the carrier almost disappeared in the mid-90s. Regardless of who is managing the company, reorganization isn't a panacea for all problems: it's not like ALT-CTRL-DEL!
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