No upgraded yet but CO still selling Y-up tix
Mar 17, 2008, 6:11 pm
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No upgraded yet but CO still selling Y-up tix
Im Gold, it is 3 days before my flight and I was not upgraded today but CO is selling Y-up and First tickets. I called onepass to find out if everything was in correctly and they said it was. The Onepass rep said that sometimes they will hold a few first class seats to see if they can sell and if they dont they will give them out as upgrades. This makes sense from CO's point of view but not mine. I think if they say they will upgrade golds 3 days prior to the flight then they should follow through and give out the seats. Has anyone else gone through this or if this has been discussed please point out the thread. Ive done a search but came up with nothing.
Mar 17, 2008, 6:15 pm
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Well, if CO gives it to you then they can't sell it, and they're in the business of selling, not giving. Looks like you answered your own question
Mar 17, 2008, 6:22 pm
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CO doesn't say that, CO says that IF they WANT they will upgrade platinum,gold and silver IF they think they will not be able to sell those seats at their OWN discretion at 5,3,1 days before departure, if they are still seats available in the right buckets then they will upgrade elites at the gate again based on their own discretion. There is no rule that says "a gold will be upgraded 3 days before ALWAYS" .
Mar 17, 2008, 6:25 pm
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CO doesn't say that, CO says that IF they WANT they will upgrade platinum,gold and silver IF they think they will not be able to sell those seats at their OWN discretion at 5,3,1 days before departure, if they are still seats available in the right buckets then they will upgrade elites at the gate again based on their own discretion. There is no rule that says "a gold will be upgraded 3 days before ALWAYS" .
Mar 17, 2008, 6:31 pm
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EUA upgrades for elites come out of the F bucket which are seats used for EUA's and milage upgrades.
Y-up upgrades for elites come out of the A bucket, which always exists if there are still seats to sell in the FC cabin.
Y-up upgrades for elites come out of the A bucket, which always exists if there are still seats to sell in the FC cabin.
Mar 17, 2008, 6:38 pm
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CO doesn't say that, CO says that IF they WANT they will upgrade platinum,gold and silver IF they think they will not be able to sell those seats at their OWN discretion at 5,3,1 days before departure, if they are still seats available in the right buckets then they will upgrade elites at the gate again based on their own discretion. There is no rule that says "a gold will be upgraded 3 days before ALWAYS" .
Now ive gotten a number of Ups at the Plat window, it really depends on the route,hour, and time of yr. But CO doesnt sell it that way, CO sells it exactly as the OP took it. Buy a coach tkt and when the window of your Elite level opens if we have any available FC seat its yours. When in truth its anything but that.
Wanted to add I understand CO is a Biz and one in which it earns its $$$ by selling seats. I have no problems with that. My problem is the way in which CO tries to give the impression that if there are FC seats available at your window the seat is yours. They should do a better job of spelling it out as it really is, maybe even put in how just cause there are FC seats doesnt mean that they will be available for Upgrades even when your window arrives
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Mar 17, 2008, 6:44 pm
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If they're not elite the Y-up doesn't exist. Or because they want to actually buy a F seat and not an upgrade to make sure that they actually get the F seat the whole way through.
Mar 17, 2008, 6:53 pm
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F and Yup are about 3% from each other! On CO, i almost NEVER buy an F. Only reason I do is for the fact that I may be bumped, and want some "bite" to be able to force them to put me on a carrier in F, NOT Y! After all, Yup is still a Y!
I do this on transcons...especially mon/fri's.
Mar 17, 2008, 6:54 pm
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as for getting FC all the way thru, they will know that from get go no? and if its from the same exact bucket if they dont get it all teh way thru as a Y-Up why would they get it as FC?
I dont buy FC or Y-Up
Mar 17, 2008, 6:55 pm
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Well... in some routes... like LAX-EWR or SFO-EWR the price $ difference between Y tickets and FC tickets are $25 to $40... so not a real perk for elites...
Mar 17, 2008, 6:58 pm
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F and Yup are about 3% from each other! On CO, i almost NEVER buy an F. Only reason I do is for the fact that I may be bumped, and want some "bite" to be able to force them to put me on a carrier in F, NOT Y! After all, Yup is still a Y!
I do this on transcons...especially mon/fri's.
I do this on transcons...especially mon/fri's.
Mar 17, 2008, 7:05 pm
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Mar 17, 2008, 7:23 pm
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Very interesting.
as I said I dont buy FC or Y, but I do make sure that I can get either the window or aisle on the exit row before pushing the button. The only time I got stuck was on a MR when either the timing of the flight didnt allow me to get the ER or the cheaper fare basis wasnt available, but as luck would have it I was either EUAed or Battlefield in the end so it all worked out.
as I said I dont buy FC or Y, but I do make sure that I can get either the window or aisle on the exit row before pushing the button. The only time I got stuck was on a MR when either the timing of the flight didnt allow me to get the ER or the cheaper fare basis wasnt available, but as luck would have it I was either EUAed or Battlefield in the end so it all worked out.
Mar 17, 2008, 7:36 pm
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