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BigPoppaCO Oct 17, 2006 12:13 pm

16DEF question on 752
 
I am thinking of changing to 16D on the 752 at the 24 hour mark. Has anyone ever swicthed to that usually held back seat and then been bumped for a handicapped person? What would really suck, considering I would be giving up 15C.

UA Insider Oct 17, 2006 12:30 pm


Originally Posted by BigPoppaCO
I am thinking of changing to 16D on the 752 at the 24 hour mark. Has anyone ever swicthed to that usually held back seat and then been bumped for a handicapped person? What would really suck, considering I would be giving up 15C.

Hi BigPoppaCO, on a 757-200, row 16 is an Exit Row, so it would be against regulations for us to knowingly place a handicapped customer in one of these seats.

BigPoppaCO Oct 17, 2006 12:37 pm

Thanks Scott, thats what I thought too but the CSA insisted it was for a handicapped passenger. I told her that seemed contradictory, but no harm no foul. I assume its for pilot rest on international flights? If so, I guess that I shouldnt have any fears of getting kicked out if its a domestic flight?

Xyzzy Oct 17, 2006 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by BigPoppaCO
I assume its for pilot rest on international flights? If so, I guess that I shouldnt have any fears of getting kicked out if its a domestic flight?

That is what they hold these for, pilot rest. If they release the seat to pax for selection then you should be fine.

J.Edward Oct 17, 2006 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by xyzzy
That is what they hold these for, pilot rest. If they release the seat to pax for selection then you should be fine.

Think that's correct.

Whenever seats are held back for crew rest they are completely off the map. 16DEF is a good example with the 752 and the first two rows of DEF on the 777 are another (use to be the last four seats in the last of BF on the 777 were also completely off the map).

Handicapped seats on the other hand are just grayed out. Pull up any 738/739 flight and I'll be you dollars to doughnuts that 2B's "occupied".

Coincidently, I'm a big fan of 2A on the 738/739 - but when it's not available I sneak into 2B around the 24 hour mark. It's a cool tactic if you want the A/B bulkheads on that equipment. :cool:

CO 1E Oct 17, 2006 1:31 pm


Originally Posted by J.Edward
Coincidently, I'm a big fan of 2A on the 738/739 - but when it's not available I sneak into 2B around the 24 hour mark. It's a cool tactic if you want the A/B bulkheads on that equipment. :cool:

I do this as well if 1E is not open, although I've been on a long string of 1B/2B being occupied at the 24 hour mark.

BigPoppaCO Oct 17, 2006 1:33 pm

This Sucks
 
I just called CO and was told that 16DEF are now taken. I asked how that was possible considering that the seats were not supposed to be released until the 24 hour mark (i called 3 mins early). She said that they should have released the seat to me when I called this morning. I told her thats not what the CSA said when I called about 5 hours ago. Very frustrating.

:mad:

J.Edward Oct 17, 2006 1:38 pm


Originally Posted by BigPoppaCO
I just called CO and was told that 16DEF are now taken. I asked how that was possible considering that the seats were not supposed to be released until the 24 hour mark (i called 3 mins early). She said that they should have released the seat to me when I called this morning. I told her thats not what the CSA said when I called about 5 hours ago. Very frustrating.

:mad:

:td:

If the flights a domestic one perhapes folks snagged them when doing OLCI near the 24 hour mark?

CO 1E Oct 17, 2006 1:42 pm


Originally Posted by J.Edward
:td:

If the flights a domestic one perhapes folks snagged them when doing OLCI near the 24 hour mark?

Probably non-elites, as well.

BigPoppaCO Oct 17, 2006 1:45 pm


Originally Posted by CO 1E
Probably non-elites, as well.


Irony is a funny thing

bigboofer Oct 17, 2006 1:46 pm

When 16 D E F are blocked I keep checking back weekly until the the 72 hour window and then daily after that.

I have found that if they are released you have to be ready to snap them up.

BigPoppaCO Oct 17, 2006 2:06 pm

UPDATE: A wonderful and patient CSA was able to get me into 7C. All's well that ends well...

CO 1E Oct 17, 2006 2:13 pm


Originally Posted by BigPoppaCO
UPDATE: A wonderful and patient CSA was able to get me into 7C. All's well that ends well...

^

Xyzzy Oct 17, 2006 2:14 pm


Originally Posted by BigPoppaCO
I just called CO and was told that 16DEF are now taken. I asked how that was possible considering that the seats were not supposed to be released until the 24 hour mark (i called 3 mins early). She said that they should have released the seat to me when I called this morning. I told her thats not what the CSA said when I called about 5 hours ago. Very frustrating.

Next time don't wait 5 hours. Politely hang up, call back, and ask again.

Syzygies Oct 17, 2006 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by xyzzy
Next time don't wait 5 hours. Politely hang up, call back, and ask again.

Lately I rephrase the question, ask if they see how this looks from my side, anything to politely get through the "say no three times then say yes" that now seems to be standard training. If everyone is trained this way, then calling back will backfire, especially if calls are logged into the record.

My most recent variance was provisional Platinum status the day after my qualifying flight. CO.com is explicit that I was entitled to plat status, but I knew the miles would not have posted yet. It didn't really help, as I upgraded for the next flight as Gold before the status took effect, but my colleague listed automatically as my Gold Companion despite my provisional Plat status in my OnePass record. He just missed the upgrade; I got this too fixed at the airport, but not before the last seat was assigned to a natural Gold. [Next time, also have the provisional status entered into the flight record.]

This is a game one plays the best one can, not an entitlement. I lost the above game at the buzzer; I was playing harder for a friend who has never sat in front, than I play for myself. This forum is invaluable for learning about the game, even as it also provdes write-only memory for whines.


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