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FlyerInCmh Sep 29, 2006 10:56 pm


Originally Posted by myk
Or NWA with mostly DC9 and Airbus 320s.... to all 3 hubs

Or Delta to ATL on an MD88 or 737, or LAX on a 737

Or United to ORD on a 737

You really DONT need to be on an RJ if you don't want to from CMH =)

You're right! I guess I have those options, but since I don't mind RJs, I usually take them anyway. :)

UAL_Rulez Sep 30, 2006 7:06 am

In 2005 I flew 31 segments on CO metal, of which 26 were ERJs.... :td:

redtailshark Nov 30, 2006 4:37 pm


Originally Posted by redtailshark (Post 6376167)
..to minimize RJ segs for upcoming travel. I would like to fly fewer than 5 during the forthcoming qualifying year.

RTS

Well, I was doing OK with this program until I discovered I had to fly back from YVR to TUS. My choice was stark: non-SkyTeam on real jets, or DL RJ. EQM vs. a modicum of "comfort". Hmmm.

And then one CO 735 sector was downgauged to RJ. I had carefully concocted the itin to avoid this in the first instance, but there's not much to be done now. CO CSR: "Reason for rebooking RQ, don't like RJ...hmmm. Not in manual, no can do.." Or can you?

So far, of the approx. 75k BIS miles I have booked for the first half of '07, I have kept the toothpaste tube torture to four segs. But I don't see how I can avoid at least one more during the second half of the year.

RTS

jdls22 Nov 30, 2006 5:28 pm

I don't mind the RJR's, I usually fly them from EWR-RIC..One thing I don't miss is the Prop planes used from FLL/PBI-Nassau..Do they still use them? Or are they using RJR's? Haven't been on those in awhile...

Boy those were an adventure on a stormy day...:eek:

baglady Nov 30, 2006 7:09 pm


Originally Posted by jdls22 (Post 6774002)
I don't mind the RJR's, I usually fly them from EWR-RIC..One thing I don't miss is the Prop planes used from FLL/PBI-Nassau..Do they still use them? Or are they using RJR's? Haven't been on those in awhile...

Boy those were an adventure on a stormy day...:eek:

I did the prop plane FLL-Nassau a year ago but haven't done it since then so not sure what they're doing. I try to avoid RJs at all costs, though on some routes it's unavoidable.

I fly IAH-OMA about every month and take the one flight a day that's a 737 - which puts me in at 11:10 p.m. and leaves at 7:40 a.m. I then have a lovely three hour drive, so it's insanity at best, but it still beats a RJ.

In The 216 Dec 1, 2006 12:53 am

I have flown 16 segments on COEX this year alone. 12 (75%) of those have been on the 1,021 mile route between CLE's terminal D and DFW's gate E7. The CLE-DFW was usually a drag because it was usually the 8:55PM departure that, in the winter, would sometimes push three hours wheels up to touchdown.

redtailshark Jun 20, 2007 12:24 pm

The plan is working...
 
Despite amassing my highest EQM total for this time of year, I've only endured four RJ segs so far this year. Two on DL and two on COEX - one of these was unexpected and unavoidable as I was downgauged late in the game on the last daily IAH-TUS sector. In fact this was the one where the COEX pilot bounced us off the runway at TUS to wake everyone up.

Anyway, it's much better. I'm prepared to drive two hours to avoid an RJ seg, which puts PHX comfortably in range when CO's TUS sched is downgauged for the summer. Otherwise I've made a range of decisions that help me avoid the toothpaste tubes; fly to BNA and SDF only on NW, for example, to avoid them. Use PHX when necessary.

MBBGG Jun 20, 2007 4:15 pm

RJ Segments
 
Only 90 YTD - a good year! Do Chautauqua segments count as 7 each (as in dog years)? If so, bump my total...

jwlowry Jun 20, 2007 4:27 pm

46 mainline and 46 ERJ. Last year, I flew over 100 ERJ segments. I memorized the ERJ safety demonstration eons ago and was actually allowed to recite it over the PA system recently when the CD player stopped working. This enabled the FA to do all the pointing, etc. without stopping to read each paragraph.

Scott6067 Jun 20, 2007 5:00 pm

CHG EQP and Elite Miles
 
CHQ flights should be credit at twice the normal rate as they are twice as problematic.

mkahanek Jun 20, 2007 6:17 pm

RJ Misery
 
I am thinking back. But I earned plat for 07 in September of 06 and I believe if my math is correct only 4 or 6 segments were on MAINLINE. So a LOT of RJ's for me.

ssullivan Jun 20, 2007 8:55 pm


Originally Posted by Scott6067 (Post 7934233)
CHQ flights should be credit at twice the normal rate as they are twice as problematic.

Yeah, great idea, provided they actually post! For every week I travel on Chautauqua-operated flights, it's almost certain that one of the flights won't post without me contacting the OnePass Service Center. Out of eight Chautauqua flights so far, I've had to contact the OPSC three times, and I have a fourth flight from last week that still hasn't posted that I'm probably going to have to request be manually processed. Usually it's not the flights out of IAH that are a problem. Instead, it's the ones out of a remote station back home to IAH that don't post. Since 1999, when I first joined OnePass, those Chautauqua flights, all flown since April 22, are the first flights I've ever had to contact the OPSC about not posting.

As for the quest to avoid RJs, this year I've flown 57 flights so far, twenty of which were on RJs, and three on turboprops (four after Friday). Only two of those flights were in a non-exit row seat, and one of those was in a bulkhead. Fortunately I've only sat in one standard 31" pitch Y RJ seat in the last 12 months. I doubt I'll ever be able to avoid RJs as long as I need to fly to places like LBB and MAF. Sure I could fly WN, but I don't find an ERJ all that bad.

NJCathi Jun 20, 2007 10:04 pm


Originally Posted by TWA Fan 1 (Post 6390379)
I agree with the basic premise of this thread that flying long distances on RJ's is not comfortable.

What's sad is that no CoEx RJ is as uncomfortable as the 737's CO flies tanscon out of EWR.

The RJ have more comfortable leather seats, the same industry-minimum 31" seat pitch. The RJ's have no middle seats and much larger windows.

Yes, the environment is narrower, but I find the packed-to-the-rafters CO 737's on a transcon far more dreadful, especially if I book late and land a middle seat.

Only 6 segs on RJs so far this year. Except for constantly hitting my head when I stand up (you'd think I would have caught on by now...), I'm much more comfortable in 12A on a COEX RJ than coach on a 737 to anywhere.

CO 1E Jun 21, 2007 8:35 am

I also have had only six ERJ segments so far this year - usually, it's more by now.

Bonehead Jun 21, 2007 9:43 am


Originally Posted by NJCathi (Post 7935566)
...I'm much more comfortable in 12A on a COEX RJ than coach on a 737 to anywhere.

You got that right.

COFlyerCLE Jun 21, 2007 9:50 am

50/52 segments this year on RJ. The EMB145 isn't too bad - the previous posters said it all. The CRJ-200 however is very uncomfortable, and I think those should be avoided whenever possible. Apparently no one over 5'6" is supposed to look out the windows...

CO 1E Jun 21, 2007 9:55 am

I actually chose an ERJ over a mainline flight this week because 12A was available, and there were no decent aisle seats or exit row seats left on the mainline flight (and my chances for an upgrade, even on an H fare, are about 1%).

abefroman329 Jun 21, 2007 10:16 am

CRJs in general seem bearable - I was able to get thru a few DH flights (two IAD-ATL) with no complaints.

On Continental's ERJs, I feel like I'm flying in an elevator.

blue47 Jun 21, 2007 12:30 pm

"TVCMH; Best strategy for avoiding RJ's in the Midwest: www.nwa.com"

tried that this week. even got upgraded to first for the trip. but NWA must have figured me out. cancelled the flight and rebooked me on Delta CRJ (four hours worth)

but there is good news -- one of the flights was a CRJ 900 and I got the exit row. not bad.... and there is even a first class section in the front. although that reminded me that there are no recip upgrades with them.

CO 1E Jun 21, 2007 12:32 pm


Originally Posted by blue47 (Post 7937995)
"TVCMH; Best strategy for avoiding RJ's in the Midwest: www.nwa.com"

tried that this week. even got upgraded to first for the trip. but NWA must have figured me out. cancelled the flight and rebooked me on Delta CRJ (four hours worth)

but there is good news -- one of the flights was a CRJ 900 and I got the exit row. not bad.... and there is even a first class section in the front. although that reminded me that there are no recip upgrades with them.

Also the best strategy to earn 50% EQM's if in the lowest 50% of fare classes, unfortunately.


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