CO stock as hot as the corn chowder...
Jun 23, 2006, 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by tuolumne
Please, let's get realistic.
United doesn't need Continental at Heathrow to prove that they are the superior global airline.
United doesn't need Continental at Heathrow to prove that they are the superior global airline.
Jun 23, 2006, 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by tuolumne
Please, let's get realistic.
United doesn't need Continental at Heathrow to prove that they are the superior global airline.
United doesn't need Continental at Heathrow to prove that they are the superior global airline.
Jun 23, 2006, 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by ContinentalFan
LOL. Me thinks me hears a chicken a clucking! 
You're in the Continental Forum; we're here to help. Face it, you're scared of Continental! If Continental is such a tatty, third-class airline, why the concern?
You're in the Continental Forum; we're here to help. Face it, you're scared of Continental! If Continental is such a tatty, third-class airline, why the concern? I'm afraid of no upgrades...Of no First cabin...Of garbage wine....Of no 744s...of no large 777 fleet...
I think I am most afraid of Nonepass though
With this aside, I still think Continental is a great US airline, just not to the over the top, everything else sucks, Continental or nothing level of people on this web forum.
Jun 23, 2006, 2:26 pm
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Originally Posted by tuolumne
Afraid of Continental you are correct.
I'm afraid of no upgrades...Of no First cabin...Of garbage wine....Of no 744s...of no large 777 fleet...
I think I am most afraid of Nonepass though
With this aside, I still think Continental is a great US airline, just not to the over the top, everything else sucks, Continental or nothing level of people on this web forum.
I'm afraid of no upgrades...Of no First cabin...Of garbage wine....Of no 744s...of no large 777 fleet...
I think I am most afraid of Nonepass though
With this aside, I still think Continental is a great US airline, just not to the over the top, everything else sucks, Continental or nothing level of people on this web forum.
I was breathlessly waiting to hear you utter those words. Here, we are in complete agreement: "I still think Continental is a great US airline."* Let's leave it at that. * © tuolumne 2006
Jun 23, 2006, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by tuolumne
Afraid of Continental you are correct.
I'm afraid of no upgrades...Of no First cabin...Of garbage wine....Of no 744s...of no large 777 fleet...
I think I am most afraid of Nonepass though
With this aside, I still think Continental is a great US airline, just not to the over the top, everything else sucks, Continental or nothing level of people on this web forum.
I'm afraid of no upgrades...Of no First cabin...Of garbage wine....Of no 744s...of no large 777 fleet...
I think I am most afraid of Nonepass though
With this aside, I still think Continental is a great US airline, just not to the over the top, everything else sucks, Continental or nothing level of people on this web forum.
But I do like: SWUs; being able to take a three-class widebody transcon; op-ups to C from Y on international segments; 744 service to Asia; LHR access; easy international mileage upgrades; E+; international F; and service to Australia.
Jun 23, 2006, 4:18 pm
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there are advantages and disadvantages to every airline.
CO is currently the best. But they need to 'beef up' their product.
CO is currently the best. But they need to 'beef up' their product.
Jun 23, 2006, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by entropy
. But they need to 'beef up' their product.
Jun 23, 2006, 8:40 pm
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Originally Posted by mywifeisincoach
Why would they do that if they are only going to be sold to the highest bidding foreign carrier/country?
- NW holds right of first refusal over sale of Continental (I think they still own
a pile of CAL stock as well.
- KLM owns part of NW
- AF owns KLM.
That alone is enough of a thicket of thorns to prevent anything like this from being even remotely possible.
Jun 23, 2006, 10:34 pm
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Originally Posted by xyzzy
They aren't going to be sold. Where do I begin?
- NW holds right of first refusal over sale of Continental (I think they still own
a pile of CAL stock as well.
- KLM owns part of NW
- AF owns KLM.
That alone is enough of a thicket of thorns to prevent anything like this from being even remotely possible.
- NW holds right of first refusal over sale of Continental (I think they still own
a pile of CAL stock as well.
- KLM owns part of NW
- AF owns KLM.
That alone is enough of a thicket of thorns to prevent anything like this from being even remotely possible.
I need to check the 10-K, but I believe that NW no longer holds rights over CAL. Rights such as those would be among the first things Northwest might try and sell prior to filing C11.
Jun 23, 2006, 11:05 pm
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Originally Posted by CO 1E
I'm afraid of . . . IAD GAs . . .
Can't be worse than CO EWR based staff...
an inferior C product . . .
I'll take a UA 777 business class over a 757 BF any day...
ORD, period . . .
I'm based at EWR/LHR, can't be worse than that...
18 gazillion MP members of all tiers . . . five tiers of elite membership and the sale of certain elite benefits . . . screwing around with 500 milers . . . I've enjoyed more upgrades on UA with *A (before I got UA status) than on CO. Don't get me started on CO's international upgrade policy (non-existent)
united.bomb . . . OK, agree with you, CO's website is the best in the league.
foreign call centers . . . Never had a problem!
744s with no in-seat IFE in Y . . . vs CO's 757, what's the question again...?
buy-on-board Y meals on 6 hour transcons . . . I agree, it's nice with some free food even though they probably have about 2000 calories...
overcrowded RCCs with no free drinks (generally) . . . No free drinks is bad!!! But I can't say they are more overcrowded than a PC.
But I do like: SWUs; being able to take a three-class widebody transcon; op-ups to C from Y on international segments; 744 service to Asia; LHR access; easy international mileage upgrades; E+; international F; and service to Australia.
Can't be worse than CO EWR based staff...
an inferior C product . . .
I'll take a UA 777 business class over a 757 BF any day...
ORD, period . . .
I'm based at EWR/LHR, can't be worse than that...
18 gazillion MP members of all tiers . . . five tiers of elite membership and the sale of certain elite benefits . . . screwing around with 500 milers . . . I've enjoyed more upgrades on UA with *A (before I got UA status) than on CO. Don't get me started on CO's international upgrade policy (non-existent)
united.bomb . . . OK, agree with you, CO's website is the best in the league.
foreign call centers . . . Never had a problem!
744s with no in-seat IFE in Y . . . vs CO's 757, what's the question again...?
buy-on-board Y meals on 6 hour transcons . . . I agree, it's nice with some free food even though they probably have about 2000 calories...
overcrowded RCCs with no free drinks (generally) . . .
No free drinks is bad!!! But I can't say they are more overcrowded than a PC.But I do like: SWUs; being able to take a three-class widebody transcon; op-ups to C from Y on international segments; 744 service to Asia; LHR access; easy international mileage upgrades; E+; international F; and service to Australia.
Jun 24, 2006, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by tbogart
Agreed!
Jun 24, 2006, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by CO 1E
Your 757 points are valid, but remember that almost all the international routes that CO serves exclusively with 752s are routes that UA does not serve at all nonstop from the US - e.g., BRS, BHX, EDI, GLA, TXL, CGN, DUB, Barcelona. All major int'l routes are served by widebodies. Not that I'm opposed to taking an LH connection in FRA or MUC to reach these places and avoid a 752 sometimes, but the value on these routes is having nonstop service where none existed previously.
Jun 24, 2006, 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by CO 1E
Your 757 points are valid, but remember that almost all the international routes that CO serves exclusively with 752s are routes that UA does not serve at all nonstop from the US - e.g., BRS, BHX, EDI, GLA, TXL, CGN, DUB, Barcelona. All major int'l routes are served by widebodies. Not that I'm opposed to taking an LH connection in FRA or MUC to reach these places and avoid a 752 sometimes, but the value on these routes is having nonstop service where none existed previously.
I'm sorry, but there is something about taking a 757-200 accross the Atlantic that pains me. I would much rather have a fleeet of 30 747-400s and 55 777-200ERs take me to destinations, and have the Star partners take me to those cities.
Continental's limited fleet of 777s seems miniscule, much more when you facor in that there is no First Suite (gah).
Jun 25, 2006, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by tuolumne
I'm sorry, but there is something about taking a 757-200 accross the Atlantic that pains me.
I would much rather have a fleeet of 30 747-400s and 55 777-200ERs take me to destinations, and have the Star partners take me to those cities.
Continental's limited fleet of 777s seems miniscule, much more when you facor in that there is no First Suite (gah).
As for first class, if you fly first out of your own pocket well bully for you. Most businesses will not pony up for first, and that is why we now have a BizFirst melding of the classes. If you have actually flown Continental Biz first, I think you would like it. You are correct that it is not a first class product, but IMO it beats 90% of business class products hands down. The seats are great the food is excellent and there is a real attention to detail.
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