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If CO still enforcing DCA 30 minute rule - Wash Post published TSA complaint number

If CO still enforcing DCA 30 minute rule - Wash Post published TSA complaint number

 
Old Mar 2, 06, 8:28 pm
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If CO still enforcing DCA 30 minute rule - Wash Post published TSA complaint number

In other thread we discussed many CO pilots and FA still enforcing the 30 minute rule on flights into DCA (AKA the "no pee" rule). Well I found the article from the Washington Post a few months ago - here are a few excerpts. The article was published from the experience of a Wash Post writer on a AA Eagle flight. Appears CO is the only one still possibly enforcing.

"Recent months, several Biz Class readers have written -- saying pilot enforced a 30-minute rule." "TSA spokesman Darrin Kayser said -- agency notified the nation's airlines on July 13, 2005 -- rule abolished"

To quote Mr Kayser "If there are pilots that are still following the 30-minute rule -- they need to stop".

"If passengers headed into Reagan National find themselves restricted by the 30-minute rule, Kayser encourges them to contact the TSA's consumer complaint line at 866-289-9673."

So folks if CO announces the 30 minute rule - TSA is asking you to call them and file a complaint against the airline.
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Old Mar 2, 06, 8:31 pm
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Complain directly to CO and to the idiot pilot as you disembark, too.
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I'm headed there Tuesday (from IAH), I'll try to remeber to post if the announce or not.

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Old Mar 2, 06, 8:35 pm
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I had them enfoce the 30 minute rule a month or so back on aUS flight which I found really surprising since DCA is a HUB.

If pilots and FA don't know this rule is suspended what else don't they know...?
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Old Mar 2, 06, 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Spiff
Complain directly to CO and to the idiot pilot as you disembark, too.
I would not do that. You might get arrested by the FAM or a snap back from the FA. I suggest you call per TSA's direction.
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Old Mar 2, 06, 8:50 pm
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Originally Posted by cova
I would not do that. You might get arrested by the FAM or a snap back from the FA. I suggest you call per TSA's direction.
Don't give in to the Bush Regime's totalitarian scare tactics.

Free speech is still a published right. So long as you're voicing a complaint in a professional manner, you should have nothing to fear.
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Old Mar 2, 06, 9:01 pm
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Originally Posted by channa
Don't give in to the Bush Regime's totalitarian scare tactics.

Free speech is still a published right. So long as you're voicing a complaint in a professional manner, you should have nothing to fear.




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Old Mar 2, 06, 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by channa
Don't give in to the Bush Regime's totalitarian scare tactics.

Free speech is still a published right. So long as you're voicing a complaint in a professional manner, you should have nothing to fear.

Amen, brother!

The 30 min. rule was eliminated in August 2005, IIRC. One could understand if they were improperly enforcing it a few weeks after it was dropped. But, sheesh, it's now been six months.
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Old Mar 4, 06, 12:03 am
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Originally Posted by cova
I would not do that. You might get arrested by the FAM or a snap back from the FA. I suggest you call per TSA's direction.
The flight is over.

There is no probable cause for air marshal intervention.
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Originally Posted by Spiff
The flight is over.

There is no probable cause for air marshal intervention.
Nor was there for the dude in the Orlando jetway.
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Old Mar 4, 06, 8:15 am
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I'm going to play the Devil's Advocate here.

Unless I've been flying in a different universe for the most part the last 30 minutes of a flight are the descent - in which case the seatbelt sign is on and you're really not supposed to be up and about anyway.

It's only 30 minutes folks.
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Old Mar 4, 06, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by Russell745
I'm going to play the Devil's Advocate here.

Unless I've been flying in a different universe for the most part the last 30 minutes of a flight are the descent - in which case the seatbelt sign is on and you're really not supposed to be up and about anyway.

It's only 30 minutes folks.
I don't care whether it's 30 minutes or 3 minutes. The rule made absolutely no sense when it existed.

Now, the rule does not exist but some idiot pilots are making up "security directives". When this happens, people tend to ignore ALL "security directives" because they know at least some of them are false.

I wish it was a serious crime to make up security directives.
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why do you say it made no sense?
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Old Mar 4, 06, 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by Russell745
why do you say it made no sense?
What exactly can one do to a plane's navigaiton with the cockpit door secured.

After the cockpit doors were secured, the DCA 30-minute rule became useless, as did the entire Federal Air Marshal program.
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Originally Posted by channa
What exactly can one do to a plane's navigaiton with the cockpit door secured.

After the cockpit doors were secured, the DCA 30-minute rule became useless, as did the entire Federal Air Marshal program.
To loosely quote the movie Contact, "we can think of thousands of reasons to give you this pill....but mostly its for the reasons we can't think of"
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