IAH to MSP Direct = $$$$: Why?

 
Old Feb 5, 06, 11:52 am
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IAH to MSP Direct = $$$$: Why?

I have to take a quick trip to MSP leaving Houston 2/27 (anytime) and returning 2/28 (evening). Everything I can find on CO or NW is over $1,000. What gives?

I checked my corporate travel site, CO.COM, NW's website and Travelocity.

It can be done much cheeper with oddball connections, but going direct, hub to hub should not cost three times as much; or should it???

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Old Feb 5, 06, 12:02 pm
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Limited competition on the route and no Sat night stay - that's they way it always has been and probably always will be. I don't think they really understand the negative load implications of such pricing, but they don't seem at all keen to change it.

Bright side: A couple of years ago, it cost even more!
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Old Feb 5, 06, 12:17 pm
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When look up IAH-MSP on Co.com for 2/27-2/28, I get $732.50 for all flights. Not cheap, but not over $1000.

On nwa.com, I get fares over $1000 for a direct flight. If I put in a destination which connects through MSP (IAH-RHI for instance), the fare drops to around $600.
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Old Feb 5, 06, 1:39 pm
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Failry simple analysis.... no lost cost carrier competition on the same route. Check IAH-ORD for same days and you will find vastly different fares.

Like the one guy said, it used to be even more expensive. When traveling IAH-MSP even WITH saturday night stay, the fares are usually significantly higher than other markets.
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Old Feb 5, 06, 2:09 pm
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try flying minneapolis (MSP) to/from newark (EWR). that's a real joy with no low fare competition. the fares are extreme.
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Only $302 on NW in either direction if you depart Sat. instead of Mon.

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Old Feb 5, 06, 2:33 pm
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I suppose one could be deviously creative and fly a one-way ticket from Houston to Indianapolis on 2/27 on NW and accidentally miss your connection.

And then a fit of bad luck, one could fly a one-way ticket from Minneapolis to Atlanta on 2/28 on CO and once again miss that darn connection.

I wouldn't make a habit of it, but it would be a good budgetary decision.

It looks like 3:04 p.m. would be the latest MSP departure on CO for a ATL flight via IAH.
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Old Feb 5, 06, 3:11 pm
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Tell me about it! You can fly EWR-DUB for less than you can EWR-CLE! I know the CO sycophants oft decry the 2500 mile $200 transcon poor ol' CO has to have for competitive reasons, but these same people conveniently overlook CO's gouging $500 for the 112 mile CLE-CMH flight. I figure it all averages out. So, don't waste any pity on CO.

Let's all open our eyes. CO (like every airline--and every business!) will charge as much as it can on every flight, as long as it perceives that price to maximize profits. The elite program, as well as any and all customer perks, is there for that sole purpose. CO is not your friend. It's not in business to do you or me any favors. CO is in business to maximize shareholder value. And if that's not the case, then chipmunk-cheek Lar' Baby has some splainin' to do to the shareholders.
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Old Feb 5, 06, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by fly co to see the yanks
try flying minneapolis (MSP) to/from newark (EWR). that's a real joy with no low fare competition. the fares are extreme.
BUt add a double connection (MDW/DTW) and it drops to the 200's
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Old Feb 5, 06, 4:18 pm
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I'm flying IAH MSP this weekend on CO and by the time I was ready to book, even a couple of weeks out, the price had gone up to the $600 range. Seating charts are pretty empty (Friday/Monday), too. I elected to use miles (standard coach award), which seemed a good tradeoff, even though I miss getting the EQM out of the trip.
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Old Feb 5, 06, 4:30 pm
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Weekend in Paris?

If your schedule can handle it, why not spend the weekend in Paris and take a sub-24-hour MSP connection on the return:

2/25: IAH-MSP-DTW-CDG
2/27: CDG-DTW-MSP
2/28: MSP-IAH

$413 all in at nwa.com

Many employers will go for it if you can demonstrate the savings, such as in this case.

LGW or AMS will be about $443 all in.
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Old Feb 5, 06, 9:08 pm
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If your schedule can handle it, why not spend the weekend in Paris and take a sub-24-hour MSP connection on the return:

2/25: IAH-MSP-DTW-CDG
2/27: CDG-DTW-MSP
2/28: MSP-IAH

$413 all in at nwa.com

Many employers will go for it if you can demonstrate the savings, such as in this case.

LGW or AMS will be about $443 all in.
Good lord! I might just have to run that by my Director: "I can save you $600 if you'll overlook the fact that I'm connecting through Paris..."

On the other hand, I've never been to Paris.

Thanks channa!

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Based on what channa suggested, you can even go further:

For example, $672 all in, NW "K" class. The trip is 14,436 miles. Even though you only earn 7,218 EQM, as a Plat, you earn 32,481 Onepass miles. Not a bad MR...
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Old Feb 5, 06, 10:14 pm
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Originally Posted by rkkwan
Based on what channa suggested, you can even go further:

For example, $672 all in, NW "K" class. The trip is 14,436 miles. Even though you only earn 7,218 EQM, as a Plat, you earn 32,481 Onepass miles. Not a bad MR...
What would be the advantage of paying $672 for a NW "K" fare (50% EQM) when you can purchase a NW "Q" fare (100% EQM) for $643 (found -- along with channa's $413 "V" fare --when searching for "best fare" on nwa.com, but see below!)?

I'm also not sure how you searched for that "K" fare. If I search for this multi-city routing on nwa.com specifying "K" or higher fare class:

  • IAH-CDG on 2/25
  • CDG-MSP on 2/27
  • MSP-IAH on 2/28

I'm offered this "Q" fare (100% EQM) for $564 all-in:
  • 2/25: NW 1156 IAH-MSP, NW 758 MSP-DTW, NW 50 DTW-CDG
  • 2/27: NW 8430 (KL 1230) CDG-AMS, NW 45 AMS-MSP
  • 2/28: NW 1155 MSP-IAH

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Old Feb 5, 06, 10:41 pm
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Originally Posted by dmunz
I have to take a quick trip to MSP leaving Houston 2/27 (anytime) and returning 2/28 (evening). Everything I can find on CO or NW is over $1,000. What gives?

I checked my corporate travel site, CO.COM, NW's website and Travelocity.

It can be done much cheeper with oddball connections, but going direct, hub to hub should not cost three times as much; or should it???

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Kind of off topic but DFW-MSP-DFW is only $230.60 on 2/27 return 2/28 on NWA. I have been flying this route for the past 6 months. Most of the time I get it booked around $105.00 RT any day of the week NO sat stay. NWA or AA both match fares. Maybe try to route via DFW?
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