Y pax in F lavatories
Dec 3, 2005, 7:08 pm
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Y pax in F lavatories
On a recent flight a FA made an announcement that lavatories in F are reserved for F class passengers only... Standard, right? Then he added that this is not a CO policy, but an FAA regulation. Somebody asked him later if it's really true and he replied "you can thank the government for that..." Well, forget the FA, the question is: does FAA really care who goes to the front bathroom? Seems weird...
Dec 3, 2005, 7:21 pm
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Originally Posted by NYC_747
On a recent flight a FA made an announcement that lavatories in F are reserved for F class passengers only... Standard, right? Then he added that this is not a CO policy, but an FAA regulation. Somebody asked him later if it's really true and he replied "you can thank the government for that..." Well, forget the FA, the question is: does FAA really care who goes to the front bathroom? Seems weird...
Dec 3, 2005, 8:21 pm
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It is not an FAA rule, that FA might have been on a power trip.
I really can't stand it when people make up rules like that. I've written stuff like that in.
I really can't stand it when people make up rules like that. I've written stuff like that in.
Dec 3, 2005, 8:29 pm
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AAmericAAn AAirlines -- the home of the endless droning announcements -- makes the same annoucement (ad nauseum) and a flight attendant told me it was, indeed, an FAA rule. she said that the FAA have caught people trying to break through the bathroom wall that is shared with the cockpit now that the cockpit door is secured. limiting access to that bathroom is an FAA priority, the AAtendAAnt told me.
Dec 3, 2005, 8:40 pm
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I was on an AA flight recently (757 - 2 Y cabins, 1 F - lavatory in each) where we were told that it was against FAA regulations to change cabins during flight and therefore could only use the facilities in the cabin in which we were seated. Doesn't make it true - but they did proscribe coach passengers from moving between the two coach sections.
Dec 3, 2005, 8:48 pm
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I'm not saying that that this policy is true, but I noticed the stricter enforcement some time ago and asked about it on two separate occasions. Both times the FA's told me that FC passengers passed a higher security clearance and that is why Y is no longer allowed up front via FAA regulations.
Dec 3, 2005, 9:36 pm
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I actually wondered about this myself. I flew Delta recently, and on only one of my four flights did they even put up the "rope" between F and Y - and this included two transcon flights. There was a pretty constant stream of Y passengers coming up to use the F lav - even when a FC pax complained that she had to wait for the 3 Y pax in front of her to use the lavatory, the FA said there was nothing she could do.
Dec 3, 2005, 9:40 pm
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Personally, I think you should have to scan your boarding pass when you flush. If you are a Y passenger, the toilet ramps up the suction and -- whammo! -- out the offender goes!
I think after a few people fail to return, the others will learn!
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I think after a few people fail to return, the others will learn!
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Dec 3, 2005, 9:54 pm
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Originally Posted by skipie
I actually wondered about this myself. I flew Delta recently, and on only one of my four flights did they even put up the "rope" between F and Y - and this included two transcon flights. There was a pretty constant stream of Y passengers coming up to use the F lav - even when a FC pax complained that she had to wait for the 3 Y pax in front of her to use the lavatory, the FA said there was nothing she could do.
Dec 4, 2005, 12:51 am
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Perhaps the FAs are confusing (intentionally or not) a real FAA regulation with a congruous airline policy.
There is an FAA policy, near as I can tell (in that it's uniformly and always announced no matter what airline I'm flying, even WN), that passengers not convene near the forward lavatory. An airline policy forbidding Y pax from using that lavatory would aid the FAA rule, surely. Perhaps the FA was combining the two, in his head. It's not right, and I hate being lied too as well, but perhaps this is what was going on in his head.
There is an FAA policy, near as I can tell (in that it's uniformly and always announced no matter what airline I'm flying, even WN), that passengers not convene near the forward lavatory. An airline policy forbidding Y pax from using that lavatory would aid the FAA rule, surely. Perhaps the FA was combining the two, in his head. It's not right, and I hate being lied too as well, but perhaps this is what was going on in his head.
Dec 4, 2005, 4:43 am
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I've heard similar annoucements numerous times on international CO flights...essentially the FA's have announced as per FAA regulations passengers from the economy cabin are not allowed into the BC cabin.(possibly vice versa).
Dec 4, 2005, 7:53 am
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Originally Posted by kilo
I've heard similar annoucements numerous times on international CO flights...essentially the FA's have announced as per FAA regulations passengers from the economy cabin are not allowed into the BC cabin.(possibly vice versa).
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Dec 4, 2005, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by fly co to see the yanks
she said that the FAA have caught people trying to break through the bathroom wall that is shared with the cockpit now that the cockpit door is secured. limiting access to that bathroom is an FAA priority, the AAtendAAnt told me.
Dec 4, 2005, 1:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Facevalue
I'm not saying that that this policy is true, but I noticed the stricter enforcement some time ago and asked about it on two separate occasions. Both times the FA's told me that FC passengers passed a higher security clearance and that is why Y is no longer allowed up front via FAA regulations.
Dec 4, 2005, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by ND Sol
Higher security clearance? That's the best excuse they could come up with? There is no difference in security clearance between a Y and F passenger.
