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Renard Nov 10, 2005 10:16 pm

It's been my experience that, when asking, many CO gate agents can be very secretive about where one is on the FC waitlist. The fact that it can change at any time seems to be the typical excuse given to me for not wanting to tell me where I am in the list.

I typically don't ask anymore after being turned away for asking several times .... if the upgrade happens for me, it happens. Being only gold now, I typically don't expect it and am just pleasantly surprised when it does.

Renard Nov 10, 2005 10:21 pm


Originally Posted by sushibear
On a recent IAH/AUS I stopped at the gate desk to see if I had cleared the upgade list. Without looking up, the agent said, "FIRST CLASS IS CHECKED-IN FULL. PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEAT IN COACH." Fine, I was in 5C and the trip is short. No big deal. However, when I boarded, there were still two empty seats in first. When the GA came on with the final manifest I walked up to the front and asked if these two seats were open. She gave me a LOOK, stomped off the plane, and returned with another printout. She proceeded to call out six names--one by one--over the pa system. All had already been upgraded. She called another who didn't even seem to be on the plane. Another name is called, and a guy walks up from coach and takes one of the seats in first. She studies the list and frowns, stomps back to 5C and says, "WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE NEXT ON THE LIST, SO 1D IS YOURS IF IT REALLY MEANS THAT MUCH TO YOU." I said "thank you" and moved up. The flight attendant was totally nonplussed saying, "I don't have a clue what that was all about, but I think you deserve an apology." It's not that it MEANT THAT MUCH to me, but I think if passengers are to trust the system and take their seat in coach so that the desk won't be surrounded with battlefield hopefuls, the GAs have got to follow procedure.

Sounds like this GA should look for a new job...she sounds pretty unhappy in the current one. The FA was right...you deserved an apology. The GA's attitude is inexcusable.

SAT Lawyer Nov 10, 2005 11:07 pm


Originally Posted by J.Edward
DL monitors also cycle information that the average (read: majority) ask such as seatmaps, weather at the destination, in-flight food options, standby status, upgrade status, and many more items. While I agree that investing in monitors just for upgrade status would be a waste we must remember they could display other relevant information.

True, and very good points.

Even more sophisticated travelers like myself (I hope!) sometimes are curious about some of that information and having it displayed clearly on a monitor must save DL's agents countless time -- allowing them to focus on more important customer service and departure management issues -- while also facilitating upgrade and standby transparency.

On this one innovation, CO lags behind DL. :eek:

dlen111 Nov 11, 2005 9:59 am


Originally Posted by cAAl
True, and very good points.

Even more sophisticated travelers like myself (I hope!) sometimes are curious about some of that information and having it displayed clearly on a monitor must save DL's agents countless time -- allowing them to focus on more important customer service and departure management issues -- while also facilitating upgrade and standby transparency.

On this one innovation, CO lags behind DL. :eek:

on the contrary. i feel that DL's automations have taken the last drop of personal touches left in the check-in and boarding process. first it was kiosks, then the screens, then online check-in and now the automated gate agent voice.

i once asked about an upgrade and the agent, without even lifting her head, pointed to the screen. it gives the DL gate agents an excuse to keep the counter from falling over and actually makes them feel less empowering and useful.

Lemurs Nov 11, 2005 10:53 am


Originally Posted by dlen111
on the contrary. i feel that DL's automations have taken the last drop of personal touches left in the check-in and boarding process. first it was kiosks, then the screens, then online check-in and now the automated gate agent voice.

i once asked about an upgrade and the agent, without even lifting her head, pointed to the screen. it gives the DL gate agents an excuse to keep the counter from falling over and actually makes them feel less empowering and useful.

That has nothing to do with the screens. It has more to do with the attitude that management communicates down to employees about their worth, and the worth of their customers. Blaming technology is a cop-out. Good use of technology, with a focus on customer service, allows the agents to use their time to help customers, not blow them off. If you can reduce a gate line by 5 because of people who want to ask questions about upgrades, the agents can focus on the 10 who need help finding standby options, connecting options, etc. Adding stress and more people who have bad attitudes about customer service is WORSE than having less personal touches.

Sorry, I don't want to seem like I am attacking you. I just get miffed when people use technology as an excuse for why people treat each other poorly. Tools are tools, who uses them and how they are used are human decisions.

Xyzzy Nov 11, 2005 11:37 am


Originally Posted by dlen111
i once asked about an upgrade and the agent, without even lifting her head, pointed to the screen. it gives the DL gate agents an excuse to keep the counter from falling over and actually makes them feel less empowering and useful.

As the previous poster said, it's the attitude that's the problem here. Pointing to a monitor to answer the question is akin to the standard, said without checking either the list or who is asking, "It's checked in full," response we currently hear. At least with a monitor we can check for ourselves.

BigPoppaCO Nov 11, 2005 11:48 am

Does anyone like, actually get upgraded anymore? I am like 0 for my last 9, all K,N,V and B fares. As far as I am concerned, they should copy the "The Price is Right" when someone actually scores a battlefield UG. Its been that rare of late...

TVCMH Nov 11, 2005 11:58 am


Originally Posted by dlen111
first it was kiosks, then the screens, then online check-in and now the automated gate agent voice.

The DL automated gate voice makes you feel like you're navigating a touchtone prompt phone system at the gate. I fail to see why the agent at the boarding door can't "invite those customers seated in zone three." In my opinion, it's a pretty direct insult to pax when there's an agent sitting at a podium looking at them while a recorded voice from above directs them to the plane. As much as I like the screens at DL gates, the voice is obnoxious -- especially at 5:20 AM.

tincan Nov 11, 2005 12:32 pm

A problem as I see it, with alerting CO of rude agents is that if you complaint too much after several bad experiences is that you are flagged as a problem customer. Its almost a catch 22.

I called a few years back after a month of flying hell and was told by the we-dont-care line - "I see you have called us quite a few times recently" - I have never called again!

MisterNice Nov 12, 2005 2:40 pm

The DL system seems about as visible and fair as it gets. I hope they expand it to all airports.

Far more useful than the CO cheap stupid "blue exalted-rug" thingee.

MisterNice


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