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Anybody knows how good is CO tracking back to back ticketing?

Oh, wait. That's from Southwest's contract of carriage. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by bry99 (edited 06-26-2002).]

Can't blame you for trying this, with what CO expects us to pay with no Saturday stay. Why not try this? CO one way, NW back? Otherwise I'd buy from 2 different sources, like the website and a travel agent, that way the ticket numbers won't be close.

A friend of mine once bought 2 COOL travel specials on the same itinerary. Did it on the CO website (as a multi city trip) and built it to get him there and back on Friday and there and back on Monday.

EUA ran on all segments and no problems whatsoever.
I think throwaway ticketing causes more red flags since operationally speaking if you arent there someone has to figure out why.

Buy tickets on HP instead, a carrier that doesn't require a Saturday night stay.

Friend of mine frequently books back/back tickets on CO and NW. Always buys the tix on the respective carrier's web site. Has gotten OnePass credit for all segments.
Periodically she uses AA or DL to break up any sort of pattern that may develop with the CO/NW activity.

Heay, thats what I was thinking of doing going on NW, returning on CO, use outbound on both, and not using retun portion. Was wondering if OnePass flight tracking would re flagged the account to look into each of the tickets.

My friend was using all legs/segments. She just had 2 open tickets @ the same time. For example, CLE-MSP CO on Monday MSP-CLE NW on Friday CLE-MSP NW on Monday MSP-CLE CO on Friday. (Satisfied the Saturday stay rule.)

Sorry if I misunderstood the question.

You better be careful on that one. You're proposing 'throwing away' the inbound on both tickets. (People try to do this when a round-trip costs more then a one-way ticket.) That might cause a red flag.

I'd be more interested to hear stories that y'all know of about people that actually got caught...

G-

One of my co-workers was "caught" doing just that....not flying the in-bounds...she was forced to pay $1200. OTOH...I know of a few people that fly the NW/CO combo...but they fly all of the legs...and there have been no problems there.

Out of curiosity...how do they force you to pay?
Do they charge your credit card or call and threaten to charge you and if you don't pay they strip your status and FF miles?
Do the credit card companies accept (defend) those charges when people attempt to fight them?

yes...they put it right on the credit card that you used...of course one can file a dispute ....but the "Revenue Protection Unit" sends the evidence that you've violated the tariff rules...and you lose. They also threaten that if you "do it again" you will lose your ff account,be "black listed" etc....this was NOT me....it was someone that I know....so,if I were you...I would use 2 different airlines...and fly ALL of the legs.

From the government BS department, you'll find this study justifying hidden-city and back-to-back prohibitions:

http://www.aviationtoday.com/reports/d01831.pdf

Interesting details:

Interesting, exclude the only consistently profitable airline, which happens to allow back-to-back and hidden-city ticketing. Moreover, that's the airline that will probably, within three to five years, jump to number one in passenger emplanements.

Meanwhile, AirTran (which has taken three quarterly losses in a row but projects profitable quarters the rest of the year) sells all of its discount tickets on a one-way basis, and WN has many promotions allowing purchase of discounted tickets on a one-way basis.

"Back-to-back" and "hidden city" promotions are parts of a defunct economic model and should be re-evaluated. The justification for these tickets seems to be lost revenue on $1000-each-way tickets that the "major" airlines are increasingly unlikely to collect anyway because of low-fare competition.

Well, this is my first post. Been surfing and reading for months, but felt I had to finally reply to this one with my personal experience.
I did back to back ticketing in 2000. It worked beautifully! Was saving well over 50% on all of my travel. Then, they caught on to what I was doing and I got a call from United (who I was flying) Corporate Security.
They charged over $6,000 to my credit card for the difference between the cost of Saturday night stay tickets, and the ticket pairs I had built. I had just over $3K remaining on my credit line. Then, I got a nasty letter from MBNA (credit card company) stating that they were raising my credit limit to accommodate the United charges and suspending further purchases until the balance was paid down. Then, UA took away all my miles and closed my FF account. I lost over 300,000 miles. I brought the matter to the attention of my attorney, but after reading the contract of carriage, he said I didn't have a leg to stand on. Another attorney friend told me the same thing. Even with all of this, the worst part was the embarrasment. Most of my colleagues fly on UA, and I would be still, if I could earn some miles. I was simply trying to save some bucks.... was still paying them for my flights, and then got treated like a diamond-thief.
In short, (I know...too late now!) my advise would be to alternate carriers, if you're going to do the back to back thing.