CO says it'll lose $10-12Million thanks to recent price cuts
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CO says it'll lose $10-12Million thanks to recent price cuts
NEW YORK, Feb 1 (Reuters) - Continental Airlines (CAL.N: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Tuesday it expects to lose about $10 million to $12 million per month in revenues from a recent round of price cutting of domestic fares.
http://www.reuters.com/financeNewsAr...toryID=7505623
http://www.reuters.com/financeNewsAr...toryID=7505623
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I have noticed some amazing to us depressing to CO fares lately. From the DC area it seems they are coming close to matching Fly I out of IAD. Don't understand why they feel they need to match fares on an airline that is struggling to gain a hold on the consumers imagination.
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Well at least they didn't blame in on Sept 11. I can't believe we still hear that one from time to time.
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Guilt
Maybe they are trying to make us feel guilt?
OMG such low fares! Continental is going to make less money I feel bad!
They could put those coffee tins at the counters at checkin and atthe gate to collect donations to help make up the difference they are lossing!
-Vincent
OMG such low fares! Continental is going to make less money I feel bad!
They could put those coffee tins at the counters at checkin and atthe gate to collect donations to help make up the difference they are lossing!
-Vincent
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I haven't noticed any fare cuts.
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Originally Posted by tcook052
NEW YORK, Feb 1 (Reuters) - Continental Airlines (CAL.N: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Tuesday it expects to lose about $10 million to $12 million per month in revenues from a recent round of price cutting of domestic fares.
http://www.reuters.com/financeNewsAr...toryID=7505623
http://www.reuters.com/financeNewsAr...toryID=7505623
Continental is still getting top dollar from IAH to YYC ($560 +) for a 4 hour flight. Other airlines are running fares from $316 (AA) to ($375 UA). I hope they don't drive CO FF away.
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Originally Posted by vincom
Maybe they are trying to make us feel guilt?
-Vincent
-Vincent
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Originally Posted by whiteknuckles
I haven't noticed any fare cuts.
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I fly the LAX-EWR transcon and they were able to sell a number of $2K FC seats which now go for $1K. Cutting their profit in half doesn't help the bottom line.
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Originally Posted by jaguar
I fly the LAX-EWR transcon and they were able to sell a number of $2K FC seats which now go for $1K. Cutting their profit in half doesn't help the bottom line.
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Glad to see you got your EUA. I'm a Platinum and it's very tough trying to get a battlefield uprade on this route.
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Originally Posted by jaguar
I fly the LAX-EWR transcon and they were able to sell a number of $2K FC seats which now go for $1K. Cutting their profit in half doesn't help the bottom line.
You could charge 2K for a ticket a few buy or 1K and sell 10 tickets. Which produces more revenue? Since it costs no more to fly the seat and UG passnengers don't increase $'s maximizing revenue must always be the goal. I can think of plenty of business travelers willing to pay a reasonable price for a FC ticket.
Actually, CO's claims of being a premium airline are more true if they actually sell rather then give away the product. Even if they sell for cheaper than the past,
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I think you are forgetting the many more thousands of $'s elites bring to an airline because of upgrades. Sell 12 FC seat for $1K more to a non-elite (*maybe* a one-time flyer), or sell 3 FC seats for $2K (net change of $6K) and upgrade 6 high-tier elites who spends thousands every year flying on an airline?
I think it's fairly safe to say (99.999%) that those six upgraded elites are worth way more than $6K to an airline that upgrades them and keeps them happy.
-RM
I think it's fairly safe to say (99.999%) that those six upgraded elites are worth way more than $6K to an airline that upgrades them and keeps them happy.
-RM
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Originally Posted by RobOnLI
I think you are forgetting the many more thousands of $'s elites bring to an airline because of upgrades. Sell 12 FC seat for $1K more to a non-elite (*maybe* a one-time flyer), or sell 3 FC seats for $2K (net change of $6K) and upgrade 6 high-tier elites who spends thousands every year flying on an airline?I think it's fairly safe to say (99.999%) that those six upgraded elites are worth way more than $6K to an airline that upgrades them and keeps them happy.-RM
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Originally Posted by chasbondy
I disagree. Someone on this board said they obtained Plat for less than $2,000. I dont see how its possible, but assuming that person was truthful, a Platinum that obtained status for under $2,000 is doing CO no favors, as they are just leaking oil with those types of "loyal passengers" who constantly harangue about upgrades, food, wine, silverware, etc
70 segments/4 segments per trip X $200 (conservative- some higher some lower) per trip. The only thing this does not acount for was 3.5 trips that were booked in Z. even then, those fares were never more than $700.
CO says im one of their best customers, yet i beg to differ. there are some of you out there that spend more $$$ than i do in a year on two flights from CLE to EWR.
i have gotten used to paying for FC if i really want it. the free upgrades are nice (and i must say, i get them much more than most other FT'ers), but i chose to fly CO for other reasons as well. if they want to sell every seat up front, more power to them. it may get me to fork over some more cash to gaurantee a seat rather than cry and sprint for NW. especially if the price goes down enough to create the demand they're looking for.