One good thing about EUA
 

Even us "less fillings" have to admit one positive result of the new upgrade system:

The CO forum has once again passed the DL one! We had been a few hundred behind, but nothing like a good controversy.

Next time we fall behind, let's just get doc to spend a little extra time here! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Please!!!

Anything but that.

Bite your tounge!

motnot:

At the 1999 freddies Jim Davidovich of United was crowing about the fact that the United Forum had 3 times as many post as any other forum. I told him alot of posts isnt necessarily a good sign. He said, "well it shows more interest" I said "lets see who wins the most freddies" http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Well, United should have the most, but given that it has probably 4 or 5 times the number of FFers as Continental, maybe it's not so good a number.

I am already preparing the "deny CO the Freddie" campagain.

Wait till you see the marketing.

Morphs of Bethune turning into Frank Lorenzo...

Animation of the three CO freddie awards in an airline seat being crushed to shards as the seat in front reclines onto them...

Sketches of people in tattered clothes (with 65k miler printed on their shirt) crawling trhough the "upgrade desert" while people wearing a shirt saying "free plat comp" being carried past them on a covered seat by four servants wearing shirts saying CO marketing...

The ideas are endless!

No Freddies for CO in 2001!!!!

THis could mean the 2001 big Freddie winner could be (and this is very hypothentical http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

1. United! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
2. AMerican
3. Southwest

David:

I agree this will impact people's votes in the Freddies.

Catman, but seriously? United? The airline that makes you purchase upgrade coupons?

Give me a break, Continental may be disappointing us right now, but United's program is third rate at best.

Wait a second, it was the Less-filling crowd that wanted these EUA's in the first place.

Us Taste Greaters said leave the system alone http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

No extra time available! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif Sorry! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Until CO changes their stance on the 30 day international upgrade award rule, they will never get my vote for a Freddie. United? You gotta be kidding after the Summer of Hell. AA is where it is at. AA offers more systemwide upgrades (those VIP things) to its top tier than UA does and allows upgrades using miles on almost any fare.

Thanks for reminder Boomer, I couldn't remember. It's been a while since we used those terms. Then I remember we had Less Great, and then just JeffLewis vs. cigarman.

NJDavid: When I clicked on the link for "denycontinentalthefreddie", it took me to a page on FlyerTalk. Was that the intention, or do you have a separate site posted?

By the way, even though I disagree with your opinion on this one, I applaud your efforts. How does one deal with a big corporation one is dissatisfied with on a policy like this? You could walk, which would be a drag given your "golden handcuffs" to OnePass. You could sue, which strikes me as frivilous and a waste of everyone's time in a situation like this. You've found a nice middle ground of hitting 'em where it hurts.

motnot: Go big CO! And only 200 behind AA!

Dgolds

David, I have stated my opposition to the idea of the EUA ad-nauseaum. The point of "denycontinentalthefreddie" is to have a forum, if one is needed, to publish passenger discontent and act as a group.

I've been trying for a couple of weeks to get someone from CO to even address my concerns. Fair play (a concept they may not be familiar with) indicates that I should give them more time to reply to me...but after e-mailing Onepass three times, Customer care (via the web form) once and Gordon Bethune directly once, the time is running out.

Currently, the link only comes here - to a fair discussion on Flyertalk that I chose because it includes those of us "pro" and "con". I may let the site die, or start a page similar to the "saveskymiles" one. The Jury is still out until the questions are answered (or I feel that enough time has passed to conclude they have been ignored).

The questions are:

Why was the EUA imposed rather than announced?
Why have specific attempts to contact and inform elites of this change not been made? (I still have received no notice or e-mail.)
Why were the feelings of Elite flyers not actively solicited, but rather just assumed?
Why was a change made to One Pass immediately, when One Pass's own rules state CO has the right to make changes with 60 days notice?
Why was this system put into place without thinking out all of the ramifications (like people who don't want upgrades being forced to take them and not being able to sit next to their traveling companions on full flights)?
Why, after the debacle of a few years ago, did CO think it appropriate to fundamentally change the program in October AGAIN after people had already earned status levels for the following year? Why didn't CO announce this in January 2001 to take effect in January 2002?
Why is CO, despite the promises of the last October switch, distributing unsolicited, complimentary platinum elite status, placing potential new customers ahead of their loyal silver and gold elites?

I have asked these questions in good faith, and they remain unanswered as of today. So as far as I am concerned, the whole thing is still a discussion. It is up to CO to determine my next steps - either remaining a loyal customer who's needs are addressed, or being alienated into organizing a protest.

[This message has been edited by NJDavid (edited 11-03-2000).]