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Old Dec 25, 2011, 10:02 pm
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Originally Posted by TWA Fan 1
There are a number of routes operated with 752's to EWR that have virtually the same distance as the IAD flights that are constantly being diverted.

Yet, the EWR flights seem to be able to make it without needing to refuel.

For example, UA/CO 121 BCN-EWR arrived today at the gate 29 minutes early...

What's the difference?
4 diversions on that route in the past month itself, no great shakes either
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Old Dec 25, 2011, 10:22 pm
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Originally Posted by UA-NYC
4 diversions on that route in the past month itself, no great shakes either
Still, not comparable in terms of diversion rate for distances that are very comparable:

AMS-IAD = 3,867 nm
BCN-EWR = 3,848 nm

Who knows, maybe that 19 nm makes all the difference...
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Old Dec 26, 2011, 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by TWA Fan 1
Who knows, maybe that 19 nm makes all the difference...
Cargo factors, time on the ground with the engines and apu turning, load factors all effect the flight.

I imagine it is a lot easier to get in and out of BCN then AMS.
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Old Dec 26, 2011, 9:04 am
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Originally Posted by colpuck
Cargo factors, time on the ground with the engines and apu turning, load factors all effect the flight.

I imagine it is a lot easier to get in and out of BCN then AMS.
It's no doubt something along those lines...
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Old Dec 26, 2011, 11:12 am
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Originally Posted by colpuck
Cargo factors, time on the ground with the engines and apu turning, load factors all effect the flight.

I imagine it is a lot easier to get in and out of BCN then AMS.
suspect the largest factor, due to nearly 800 miles more southern location of BCN, is the high altitude winds
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Old Dec 26, 2011, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
suspect the largest factor, due to nearly 800 miles more southern location of BCN, is the high altitude winds
Regarding BCN that is very likely, but CO does operate 752's on other "long-thin" routes to northern Europe that end up in EWR, and, for whatever reason, the diversion rates for these flights are much lower.

These include:

CPH-EWR 3,867 m
ARN-EWR 3,930 m
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Old Dec 26, 2011, 12:10 pm
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Originally Posted by TWA Fan 1
Still, not comparable in terms of diversion rate for distances that are very comparable:

AMS-IAD = 3,867 nm
BCN-EWR = 3,848 nm

Who knows, maybe that 19 nm makes all the difference...
BCN-EWR is also the most diverted 757 to EWR.

Also loads matter; the BCN flight may not be as full of passengers or cargo.
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Old Dec 26, 2011, 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by colpuck
Cargo factors, time on the ground with the engines and apu turning, load factors all effect the flight.

I imagine it is a lot easier to get in and out of BCN then AMS.
I've never been to BCN, but sometimes it seems like we taxi forever at AMS.
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Old Dec 26, 2011, 7:41 pm
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Originally Posted by halls120
I've never been to BCN, but sometimes it seems like we taxi forever at AMS.
I haven't been there either. Well I flew there on FR (Yes that FR) I think the airport was closer to MAD than BCN.
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Old Jan 2, 2012, 10:51 am
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both 131 and 133 have scheduled diversions to YYR today. Seriously this route is FUBAR.
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Old Jan 2, 2012, 10:55 am
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First diversions of the new year!

Anybody care to guess how often they'll divert this month?
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Old Jan 2, 2012, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
First diversions of the new year!

Anybody care to guess how often they'll divert this month?
Actually 133 diverted yesterday, 131 did not.

62 flights this month. So far 3/4 flights diverted.

I am putting the over/under at 26...Line is subject to change.
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Old Jan 2, 2012, 11:42 am
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I would be curious to see the diversion rates for AF IAD-CDG and KL IAD-AMS for the past five weeks.
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Old Jan 2, 2012, 11:51 am
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125 (AMS-IAD) is also making a stop to the new YYR hub today. Build a UClub there already!

Originally Posted by TWA Fan 1
I would be curious to see the diversion rates for AF IAD-CDG and KL IAD-AMS for the past five weeks.
None

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/KLM17/history

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR26/history
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR28/history
(one in Sept, none since then)
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Old Jan 2, 2012, 12:55 pm
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I've seem to recall hearing that when the 767 Ghetto birds are converted to international configuration, they are going to be used for GUM flights. I hope that there is enough sanity at HQ to use some of them for IAD-CDG and IAD-AMS.
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