Downgraded from PAID F to Y, while elites in Y were upgraded to F
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Call back, ask someone to look up GG OVS DOWNGRADE in the system and then to process the TCV and refund as indicated therein. That you were on a connecting itinerary makes it a bit harder to calculate the refund bit, but they should be able to figure it out.
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Most definitely you are due compensation in the form of a fare difference refund a downgrade cert - in addition, IIRC, CO has policies in place to handle these situations and the agents being well aware of the situation should have been working with the appropriate ops folks to downgrade the lowest-level EUA'd Elites one by one until the number of displaced paid (fare paid, mileage upgrade or SWU) passengers were assigned F seats.
Why this process wasn't followed is beyond me - it has certainly been discussed in the forum before.
Why this process wasn't followed is beyond me - it has certainly been discussed in the forum before.
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Wow, just wow. I can't wait until these cretins take over the UA metal equipment change process.
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How is the voucher is unusable? Do you book any of your travels [personal as well?] on CO.com??
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Oh joy, yet another example of COs poor handling of well, life, when it comes to air travel. So not looking forward to the final combination
OP- I hope you call in and do get your compensation plus refund (make sure it is credited back, not just a voucher) for the fare difference. It's bs for any elite or other to be upgraded, while a paying passenger is screwed around like that. You might also want to file the dot complaint to add it to COs statistics .... Good luck
OP- I hope you call in and do get your compensation plus refund (make sure it is credited back, not just a voucher) for the fare difference. It's bs for any elite or other to be upgraded, while a paying passenger is screwed around like that. You might also want to file the dot complaint to add it to COs statistics .... Good luck
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Wait a minute, I thought this is the type of pax that UA/CO is chasing after, judging from the rumored new MP. How in the world would anyone develop loyalty after experiencing this?? Perhaps OP would have been treated differently if he/she was on full fare F?
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Oh joy, yet another example of COs poor handling of well, life, when it comes to air travel. So not looking forward to the final combination
OP- I hope you call in and do get your compensation plus refund (make sure it is credited back, not just a voucher) for the fare difference. It's bs for any elite or other to be upgraded, while a paying passenger is screwed around like that. You might also want to file the dot complaint to add it to COs statistics .... Good luck
OP- I hope you call in and do get your compensation plus refund (make sure it is credited back, not just a voucher) for the fare difference. It's bs for any elite or other to be upgraded, while a paying passenger is screwed around like that. You might also want to file the dot complaint to add it to COs statistics .... Good luck
And with UA he would have been better off speaking with someone in India when there is no UA metal EWR-IAH? Or using .bomb to reroute him? <sigh>
There is no need for the UA or CO bashing from either side, we are one company/team now.
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Not yet, I still got a few months of UA bashing left!
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The voucher should very useable. Just book online and enter the coupon code. If there fare is $500 then the ticket is free.
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Correct, that is why I am inquiring what the OP means
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And honestly, after being treated like this, why on earth would I want to buy $500 worth of anything from CO in the near future?
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I say this because every voucher I've received in the past few years from CO (since this compensation routine is becoming more and more routine) has been restricted to the point that the voucher is not worth using. There are usually so many rules, such as restricted travel days, fare classes, etc. that using the voucher becomes more hassle than its worth.
And honestly, after being treated like this, why on earth would I want to buy $500 worth of anything from CO in the near future?
And honestly, after being treated like this, why on earth would I want to buy $500 worth of anything from CO in the near future?
I don't blame you if you don't want to travel with CO again... You did not deserve to be treated like this, especially a Platinum on a BusinessFirst ticket... CO indeed screwed up big time here and god knows how many customers like you have been burned like this in the past.
When I was downgraded after an upgrade due to an equipment swap in IAH, upon arriving at the gate, I inquired at the gate and they already had my new boarding pass in hand with a confirmed reclining exit row seat and a $200 eTCV along with my boarding pass... The supervisor was there helping the other gate agents in dealing with that flight as well. Then I told the agent I cannot sit in the exit row, he said no problem and moved me up to the best bulkhead seat on the 752... Also, I was rebooked into "Y" if I am not happy and want to change flights, but I was satisfied with my seat and I wanted to go home. I wish other gate agents were as organized, accommodating, and professional as the gate agents I encountered in IAH on that day.
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I say this because every voucher I've received in the past few years from CO (since this compensation routine is becoming more and more routine) has been restricted to the point that the voucher is not worth using. There are usually so many rules, such as restricted travel days, fare classes, etc. that using the voucher becomes more hassle than its worth.
What you have is a $500 "same as cash" form of payment with the only restrictions being that it must be used on co.com, used against CO/CM/UA metal and it only counts for airfare, not for other fees.
The $500 TCV is actually high for the GG OVS DOWNGRADE comp on the voucher side. You are also still probably due a partial fare refund based on policy, however, so I'd call that in still.
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Well, your situation was quite unfortunate and poorly handled by CO based on your description, but this statement above is just plain misinformed. That said, I think you should be entitled to a cash refund of the fare difference between a Z fare and lowest available coach fare at the time of your ticket purchase on the EWR-IAH route. If you don't receive an appropriate response fom CO I would definitely file a complaint with the DOT.