I nearly got thrown off a CO flight for saying this;
Mar 3, 2011, 10:26 pm
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Ha! Thats funny.
And, yes, I am former law enforcement, but I think I'm being pretty objective here.
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Blue wall of silence strikes again.
I've reviewed the evidence above and I find the OP to have gotten off easy. Reclining when on the ground is obnoxious and calling a passenger an obsecenity loudly enough to attract the attention of a harredd FA during the controlled chaos that is boarding is 100% unacceptable and indicates a SEVERE temperment issue. Frankly, the OP should have been evicted from the flight and met by law enforcement (not his buddyies either) at the gate for nice trip to the clink.
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Blue wall of silence strikes again.
I've reviewed the evidence above and I find the OP to have gotten off easy. Reclining when on the ground is obnoxious and calling a passenger an obsecenity loudly enough to attract the attention of a harredd FA during the controlled chaos that is boarding is 100% unacceptable and indicates a SEVERE temperment issue. Frankly, the OP should have been evicted from the flight and met by law enforcement (not his buddyies either) at the gate for nice trip to the clink.
Mar 3, 2011, 10:31 pm
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Kicking the seat is out of line, too... if you think the OP should be kicked off the flight, then the people kicking the seat should also be kicked off the flight.
Mar 3, 2011, 10:52 pm
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After reading the first few posts, I also believe the OP is at fault. I wish the airlines would forbid reclining after boarding. I have had people in front of me drop down immediately after boarding in front of me and it interferes with me setting up my stuff.
However, I agree the person behind is wrong to kick the chair. I have kindly asked the people in front of me to move up so I can get into my seat and unpack myself and have never been refused.
However, I agree the person behind is wrong to kick the chair. I have kindly asked the people in front of me to move up so I can get into my seat and unpack myself and have never been refused.
Mar 3, 2011, 10:54 pm
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I have the utmost respect for law enforcement and am loath (in the extreme) to criticize them for anything, but the OP was way out of line here. 
The appropriate response to the seat kicking would have been to politely alert an FA and let them handle it.
The appropriate response to the seat kicking would have been to politely alert an FA and let them handle it.
Mar 3, 2011, 11:11 pm
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How about reclining just partially, or asking pre-emptively if the person would be bothered if you reclined? Might have made this go easier.
Mar 3, 2011, 11:20 pm
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I never recline prior to take-off, unless no personis in the row behind me. The seat kicking is unacceptable.
Back in 1992 on a flight from EWR-Oslo, in business on A CO award, the woman behind me would not let me fully recline on the overnight flight. I did not complain, but people should keep within their bounds.
Back in 1992 on a flight from EWR-Oslo, in business on A CO award, the woman behind me would not let me fully recline on the overnight flight. I did not complain, but people should keep within their bounds.
Mar 4, 2011, 12:03 am
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The term passive aggressive behavior comes to mind.
Mar 4, 2011, 12:09 am
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Mar 4, 2011, 12:15 am
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Kicking the seat and not asking to put it forward is just wrong. But the OP made it worse.
Unfortunately when flying we are forced into a very small space where every inch becomes precious. It's not comfortable, especially for us Americans. It's a time when extreme patience and "sucking it up" is required. It's not about who is right or wrong but how to get along. Once you leave the plane you can take a breathe and never have to see the same folks again.
Unfortunately when flying we are forced into a very small space where every inch becomes precious. It's not comfortable, especially for us Americans. It's a time when extreme patience and "sucking it up" is required. It's not about who is right or wrong but how to get along. Once you leave the plane you can take a breathe and never have to see the same folks again.
Mar 4, 2011, 1:24 am
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+1. In fact, on the basis of that clearly adduced evidence, I feel comfortable concluding that the seat kicking likely was not the first step in the process. I am pretty sure there was a polite request by the passenger behind that was not honored and OP is simply a liar.
Mar 4, 2011, 2:53 am
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You were *both* as bad as each other, and I don't blame the FA in this situation in the least. Reclining before take off? Come on - unnecessary. Consideration, even for jerks, costs nothing. You acted badly, got called over it and now don't like it. I can't imagine what you might expect as a result of this behaviour from people both on board the aircraft at the time, and on this board.
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Mar 4, 2011, 3:11 am
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I don't know about the OP's overall behavior, but I find it obnoxious when passengers try to increase their living area by reclining the seat for long periods, typically 5 seconds after takeoff until 5 seconds before touchdown. Starting this before takeoff is rude.
I try to follow the general rule that I recline only when I have a reasonable attempt at nodding off where the full upright position is difficult. Any time my reading light is on for eating, working or reading, I'm probably not reclined, giving the passenger behind some space. It's not always about me.
I try to follow the general rule that I recline only when I have a reasonable attempt at nodding off where the full upright position is difficult. Any time my reading light is on for eating, working or reading, I'm probably not reclined, giving the passenger behind some space. It's not always about me.
Mar 4, 2011, 7:35 am
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Mar 4, 2011, 7:37 am
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Loose lips sink ships. That's why the FA threatened to deboard the OP, especially if OP has the potential to be irate for the remainder of the flight, regardless of who's at fault.