A word of caution on [14-Feb-2011] Flights
Jan 8, 2011, 10:13 am
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A word of caution on [14-Feb-2011] Flights
Looks like employees may be getting ready to cause trouble.:
http://www.airlinecrew.net/vbulletin...d.php?t=225607
http://www.airlinecrew.net/vbulletin...d.php?t=225607
Jan 8, 2011, 11:22 am
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That would be an interesting decision considering that they actually got a contract just a couple days ago. Subject to ratification, of course, but they have one that the union leadership seems to think is reasonable.
Jan 8, 2011, 11:31 am
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That would be an interesting decision considering that they actually got a contract just a couple days ago. Subject to ratification, of course, but they have one that the union leadership seems to think is reasonable.
Jan 8, 2011, 11:47 am
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I would assume that they think the new one is better if they are willing to take it back to the union members. Do you think they decided to take a worse contract back just to waste time?
Jan 8, 2011, 11:55 am
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This thread isn't about the contract but the possibility of a work action affecting our flights.
Jan 8, 2011, 12:01 pm
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I have no idea if it is fair or not; I have not seen any of the details of it and I really do not care to since, as you note, it isn't my contract. My point is simply that the union leadership took one version back to their members and it was rejected. If the same leadership took a second contract that they felt was worse back to their members then they wouldn't be very good union leadership, right? Hence my assumption that the union leadership believes this is a better deal for their members and that it might actually be ratified.
Jan 8, 2011, 12:04 pm
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My point is simply that the union leadership took one version back to their members and it was rejected. If the same leadership took a second contract that they felt was worse back to their members then they wouldn't be very good union leadership, right? Hence my assumption that the union leadership believes this is a better deal for their members and that it might actually be ratified.
I don't understand what your point is. Unless the employees go for it, it's not a done deal.
The union represents and negotiates, but they don't have the final say.
Jan 8, 2011, 12:04 pm
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I have no idea if it is fair or not; I have not seen any of the details of it and I really do not care to since, as you note, it isn't my contract. My point is simply that the union leadership took one version back to their members and it was rejected. If the same leadership took a second contract that they felt was worse back to their members then they wouldn't be very good union leadership, right? Hence my assumption that the union leadership believes this is a better deal for their members and that it might actually be ratified.
Union Leadership cannot get their agenda passed without the membership involved, and the membership is not liking this one.
Jan 8, 2011, 2:04 pm
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Jan 8, 2011, 2:08 pm
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Be realistic. You tried to dismiss this thread and create the impression that there is no reason to worry. You wrote a reply that implies you believe that ratification is likely.
This is a potentially serious issue for CO flyers. People should be aware of it and making contingency plans.
This is a potentially serious issue for CO flyers. People should be aware of it and making contingency plans.
Jan 8, 2011, 2:54 pm
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I actually might be affected by this given the date. I'm glad that you've shared the potential for this and I'm also glad that I know more than just that the unfounded rumor exists.
Jan 10, 2011, 3:51 am
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Looks like employees may be getting ready to cause trouble.:
http://www.airlinecrew.net/vbulletin...d.php?t=225607
http://www.airlinecrew.net/vbulletin...d.php?t=225607
It is actually an interesting forum to browse around in. I saw a few crazy posts IMO that were left uncontested. Their forum could benefit from having a sbm12-kind-of-guy to keep things in perspective.
Their 'love' for Smisek is really flowing. All those praising words following the announcement of "Aviation Week's Person of the Year".
Jan 10, 2011, 7:10 am
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The stupidest thing an airline employee group can do is employ a sick out. You will end up in court and the fine will bankrupt the union. American pilots proved that nicely over ten years ago. Airline employees are subject to the Railway Labor Act and judicial interpretations. Lately judges have been kind of enough to tell me that if I chose not to work on my day off I am committing an illegal work action. Bottom line I wouldn't read too much into a internet employee forum which tend to get the vocal (but chicken) 5%. The airline will slug on as normal this Valentines Day.