Tonight's flight: An annoying UAGS member & a vibrator...
#47
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So you clicked on a thread with "vibrator" in the title and didn't think there would be any further references to it? And, FWIW, I was talking about the town in Newfoundland.
Oh, right the town. Do you always spell towns in lowercase letters?
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So, what you're saying is that the flight attendants deserve deal with people like that, while they aren't being paid? And that these passengers, who obviously feel they are more important than the other pax, should be able to monopolize the time of the FAs over other paying passengers, hence significantly decreasing the quality of the product offered, especially since the FA is in a pissy mood because of said passenger?
When I get on a United flight, I avoid eye contact and all unnecessary communication with flight attendants, and for good reason. I didn't think this was necessary on Continental, but you are changing my mind very quickly.
Maybe the intimidation works then. But every flight comes to an end, and with it, the crew's power over the passengers. The airlines do their best to bully and intimidate the passengers, but their effectiveness is limited, because every flight comes to an end.
Last edited by Wilke; Sep 19, 2010 at 10:44 am
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Oh, for Pete's sake. "Dildo" and "vibrator" are not bad words. Stop being so neo-Puritanical. IAHTraveler related a story about a dildo on the floor of the aircraft so I posted a related quote from Fight Club.
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I generally agree with channa on how CO compares to UA. UA is a better airline IMO for the 100,000+ miles a year flyer (if UA’s route network works for you). I have been CO Plat three of the last 8 years so have CO experience to back up my opinion.
I recently was chatting with a CO FA about the merger. He mentioned how hard it was going to be to integrate CO's professional workforce with UA's lazy inferior workforce. Too much COolaid being believed by CO themselves and some CO flyer. CO's workforce is very similar in the level of professionalism, skill, ability, brilliance, and ability to serve as other US airlines, not vastly superior.
This does not mean I find the GS's behavior in the OP excusable. At times, I have defended GAs/FAs against unreasonable passengers. I'm not sure if I could have done anything to help, but at a minimum,I would have let the FA know I would be writing her airline to let them know the GS was a complete XYZ and that in my extensive experience flying UA, the vast majority of GS passengers are respectable people, unlike her passenger today. She need not fear having tons of GS XYZ passengers making her life difficult in this merger.
I recently was chatting with a CO FA about the merger. He mentioned how hard it was going to be to integrate CO's professional workforce with UA's lazy inferior workforce. Too much COolaid being believed by CO themselves and some CO flyer. CO's workforce is very similar in the level of professionalism, skill, ability, brilliance, and ability to serve as other US airlines, not vastly superior.
This does not mean I find the GS's behavior in the OP excusable. At times, I have defended GAs/FAs against unreasonable passengers. I'm not sure if I could have done anything to help, but at a minimum,I would have let the FA know I would be writing her airline to let them know the GS was a complete XYZ and that in my extensive experience flying UA, the vast majority of GS passengers are respectable people, unlike her passenger today. She need not fear having tons of GS XYZ passengers making her life difficult in this merger.
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2. After seeing the Hawaiian shirted guy behind me, I wasn't going to take any risks & touch it.
Ah, how I wish I were one of the "most professional men and women in the industry" (RAH RAH!) working that flight so I could have given her the choice of continuing her attitude and complaining to the ground staff as the flight left without her, or shutting up and taking the water and the crappy headphones and being happy with it.
The "other d- word" is that bad? Will shower be another word we shouldn't use here?
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If a UA GS paid $2,500 for a domestic F ticket, it seems reasonable to want a glass of water. There is some likelihood this person paid the highest fare of anyone on the plane for their seat, so to the FA who would have happily given them the choice to leave the plane - just remember - that single person probably pays a significant part of your salary. I would do whatever one can to keep them on that plane and want them to keep coming back for more.
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If a UA GS paid $2,500 for a domestic F ticket, it seems reasonable to want a glass of water. There is some likelihood this person paid the highest fare of anyone on the plane for their seat, so to the FA who would have happily given them the choice to leave the plane - just remember - that single person probably pays a significant part of your salary. I would do whatever one can to keep them on that plane and want them to keep coming back for more.
While it is reasonable to request water, it is not reasonable to act like an spoiled child when the glass of water can not be provided for immediately. And while a GS is high revenue for UA, they are not high revenue for CO. We treat all F passengers equally- which is what drives the UA Elites bonkers.
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If a UA GS paid $2,500 for a domestic F ticket, it seems reasonable to want a glass of water. There is some likelihood this person paid the highest fare of anyone on the plane for their seat, so to the FA who would have happily given them the choice to leave the plane - just remember - that single person probably pays a significant part of your salary. I would do whatever one can to keep them on that plane and want them to keep coming back for more.
IMO, just because someone may have "paid the highest fare of anyone on the plane for their seat" does not give that passenger the right to act as the GS did.
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If a UA GS paid $2,500 for a domestic F ticket, it seems reasonable to want a glass of water. There is some likelihood this person paid the highest fare of anyone on the plane for their seat, so to the FA who would have happily given them the choice to leave the plane - just remember - that single person probably pays a significant part of your salary. I would do whatever one can to keep them on that plane and want them to keep coming back for more.
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No matter what she paid there is simply no room for this kind of rude behaviour. Well done to the CO FA's for handling matters with sheer and utter professionalism.
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I recently was chatting with a CO FA about the merger. He mentioned how hard it was going to be to integrate CO's professional workforce with UA's lazy inferior workforce. Too much COolaid being believed by CO themselves and some CO flyer. CO's workforce is very similar in the level of professionalism, skill, ability, brilliance, and ability to serve as other US airlines, not vastly superior.
Accordingly, your story about your conversation with the CO FA must be a fabrication.
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I recently was chatting with a CO FA about the merger. He mentioned how hard it was going to be to integrate CO's professional workforce with UA's lazy inferior workforce. Too much COolaid being believed by CO themselves and some CO flyer. CO's workforce is very similar in the level of professionalism, skill, ability, brilliance, and ability to serve as other US airlines, not vastly superior.
I recently was chatting with a CO FA about the merger. He mentioned how hard it was going to be to integrate CO's professional workforce with UA's lazy inferior workforce. Too much COolaid being believed by CO themselves and some CO flyer. CO's workforce is very similar in the level of professionalism, skill, ability, brilliance, and ability to serve as other US airlines, not vastly superior.
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I actually really like the flight crews when you fly first class on UA. Coach is coach is coach. But there are differences in FC. CO I think generally has a better product, but I like the UA F/A attitude. Lots of them are very fun. I often find CO F/A's to be uptight, but usually professional. I had two recently that were just awful. I thought I was flying US again.