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ssullivan Jun 9, 2010 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by jlemon (Post 14105991)
I think the vast majority of the UA flights to the islands feature the domestic F seating (two class 777 & 763 & 757 aircraft). Every once in awhile they'll fly a 744 on the route (such as ORD-HNL) but this has happened very rarely in the past. Of course, CO is now flying 738/739 aircraft LAX/SNA-HNL/OGG and these feature the domestic F seating as well. Some posts have mentioned that UA "made" CO use 737s between the west coast and the islands but I kinda wonder about this.....any comments?

It's one thing to use a 737 on a West Coast-Hawaii flight that's five hours. It's another to operate a domestic configuration on a flight to Hawaii that's 8-9 or more hours long from the central US, or an East Coast hub. CO does not do that.

Bonehead Jun 9, 2010 3:38 pm


Originally Posted by ssullivan (Post 14106305)
It's one thing to use a 737 on a West Coast-Hawaii flight that's five hours. It's another to operate a domestic configuration on a flight to Hawaii that's 8-9 or more hours long from the central US, or an East Coast hub. CO does not do that.

True. I have a FC test flight in September DEN-KOA (using the freebie from a promotion that UA ran out of DEN earlier this year) on the renowned "ghetto bird". Can't wait...or can I?

elitefreak Jun 9, 2010 6:46 pm


Originally Posted by jlemon (Post 14105716)
I sincerely hope BF survives. I like it a lot better to the islands.

How could it not? It's "award winning".

elitefreak Jun 9, 2010 6:48 pm


Originally Posted by nbs2 (Post 14105853)
But the service at C North is better. From my experience, I'd call it the best in the system.

Service? Do you mean the bartenders? I wouldn't include the reception staff because you only see them for a few seconds.

nbs2 Jun 10, 2010 10:29 am


Originally Posted by elitefreak (Post 14107249)
Service? Do you mean the bartenders? I wouldn't include the reception staff because you only see them for a few seconds.

I mean everybody.

At check-in, certainly it's only a couple of seconds (although, I have noticed that no matter the club they are the second surliest of all CO employees - EWR employees all tie for first tied for first), so I guess that doesn't matter. Although I think E takes less kindly to kids than C-N. Reception I spend too much time at, but that's what happens when you fly with kids and the weather leaves you with a 5 hour layover. The bartenders are more amiable at C-N. Even the support staff at C-N seems less harried.

Now that I think about it - that is the word I would use to describe C-N in comparison to E - harried. E is just too harried.

jlemon Jun 10, 2010 10:46 am


Originally Posted by nbs2 (Post 14110638)
I mean everybody.

At check-in, certainly it's only a couple of seconds (although, I have noticed that no matter the club they are the second surliest of all CO employees - EWR employees all tie for first tied for first), so I guess that doesn't matter. Although I think E takes less kindly to kids than C-N. Reception I spend too much time at, but that's what happens when you fly with kids and the weather leaves you with a 5 hour layover. The bartenders are more amiable at C-N. Even the support staff at C-N seems less harried.

Now that I think about it - that is the word I would use to describe C-N in comparison to E - harried. E is just too harried.

Well, the E PC sure can get that way in the afternoon, what with CO's departures to Europe plus some of the Lufthansa and Emirates pax apparently now in there as well judging from recent boarding announcements.....

ssullivan Jun 10, 2010 10:57 am


Originally Posted by Bonehead (Post 14106334)
True. I have a FC test flight in September DEN-KOA (using the freebie from a promotion that UA ran out of DEN earlier this year) on the renowned "ghetto bird". Can't wait...or can I?

I've flown a few of the ghetto birds lately, including to/from Hawaii in F. They are slightly better, with new carpet, new leather seat covers, and the 1980s video projectors replaced by large LCD monitors on the center bulkheads. But they're still pretty sad for the length of flights they fly, especially when other airlines offer in-seat IFE on those routes, and better seats in the premium cabin.

channa Jun 10, 2010 11:05 am


Originally Posted by jlemon (Post 14105716)
I sincerely hope BF survives. I like it a lot better to the islands.

As a West Coaster, I sort of prefer the domestic F + free EUA/UDU vs. the BF which would require copay + miles or SWU or some sort of instrument. The flight is not terribly long for many of us, and I'm not exactly burning 80K for F/J for a short hop like that if I'm on a reward.

My gut is that BF to Hawaii will be gone after the merger. CO is presently running all the Hawaii flights it can with a domestic F product. They don't have a domestic F configured widebody (a la UA or DL), so they don't really have anything capable of flying the IAH/EWR-HNL runs that doesn't have BF already in it.

Given CO's historical tendency towards operational items, that leads me to believe they didn't want a domestic F bird just for these two routes (and maybe IAH-EWR). Other than that, CO doesn't fly widebodies domestically. UA, OTOH, has a lot of domestic-configured widebodies, as they're used throughout the system for both Hawaii and various hub-to-hub flights.

Of course if CO has numbers showing a significant revenue premium due to the BF product, then it may stay. Who knows.

GPS123 Jun 10, 2010 11:24 am

I once saw somebody in F asking for a screw driver as soon as he step in the cabin. And it was a 6am flight. :D

controller1 Jun 10, 2010 2:59 pm


Originally Posted by GPS123 (Post 14110980)
I once saw somebody in F asking for a screw driver as soon as he step in the cabin. And it was a 6am flight. :D

It was a Bloody Mary, not a screwdriver. I never order those. Get your facts straight! :D

CO 1E Jun 10, 2010 3:09 pm


Originally Posted by ssullivan (Post 14105825)
Same here. UA's domestic F to Hawaii was rather disappointing in many ways when I flew it recently. It's not awful, but those some long flights to have a standard domestic F seat and service.

I would rather just fly coach than spend miles or cash for a domestic F product to Hawaii. That said, I'll take an EUA without issue.

jlemon Jun 10, 2010 3:58 pm


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 14112347)
I would rather just fly coach than spend miles or cash for a domestic F product to Hawaii. That said, I'll take an EUA without issue.

However, perhaps the IAH/EWR-HNL 764 BF flights using the mininum number of miles required for reward tix might be a different story.....

elitefreak Jun 11, 2010 8:28 am


Originally Posted by GPS123 (Post 14110980)
I once saw somebody in F asking for a screw driver as soon as he step in the cabin. And it was a 6am flight. :D

Maybe their seat was loose.

Kirbydale Jun 13, 2010 7:37 am

Does anyone have any info on the current movies on IAH-HNL? The description on the site just says 16 video channels. Is it on demand? Do you know what movies they are currently showing?

sbm12 Jun 13, 2010 7:56 am


Originally Posted by Kirbydale (Post 14124202)
Does anyone have any info on the current movies on IAH-HNL? The description on the site just says 16 video channels. Is it on demand? Do you know what movies they are currently showing?

It is NOT on-demand. I have no idea what the current selections are on the 76s but they are on a loop, not on-demand.

controller1 Jun 13, 2010 8:32 am

Movie line-up for 767s for June
 

Originally Posted by Kirbydale (Post 14124202)
Does anyone have any info on the current movies on IAH-HNL? The description on the site just says 16 video channels. Is it on demand? Do you know what movies they are currently showing?


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 14124260)
It is NOT on-demand. I have no idea what the current selections are on the 76s but they are on a loop, not on-demand.

Here is the current movie line-up.

CO 767 Movies - June

Kirbydale Jun 13, 2010 8:45 am

Thank you!!

jryanin80 Jun 14, 2010 10:00 am

Boarding
 
I am flying CO BF to HNL later this week. The first leg of my flight to IAH is not first as it is not available. Will I still get to board first for the first leg? Check two bags with no charge?

sbm12 Jun 14, 2010 10:14 am


Originally Posted by jryanin80 (Post 14129853)
I am flying CO BF to HNL later this week. The first leg of my flight to IAH is not first as it is not available. Will I still get to board first for the first leg? Check two bags with no charge?

Yes and yes. Is this a reward trip or revenue? Is F not available because it is an ERJ or because there was no reward inventory available? That might change things.

PS- Welcome to FlyerTalk!!

jryanin80 Jun 14, 2010 10:28 am

Thank you for your reply. We are flying on an ERJ so no first class seating exists.

sbm12 Jun 14, 2010 10:34 am


Originally Posted by jryanin80 (Post 14130025)
Thank you for your reply. We are flying on an ERJ so no first class seating exists.

OK..you're still permitted 3x70# of baggage each as you are checking in for a BusinessFirst flight. You are also permitted access to the PClub in IAH.

Enjoy the trip.

ssullivan Jun 14, 2010 10:35 am


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 14112347)
I would rather just fly coach than spend miles or cash for a domestic F product to Hawaii. That said, I'll take an EUA without issue.

We used a 50% off discount code from UA for E+ tickets, then upgraded with CR-1s that likely wouldn't have been used otherwise.

withatwist Jun 15, 2010 1:30 am


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 14112347)
I would rather just fly coach than spend miles or cash for a domestic F product to Hawaii. That said, I'll take an EUA without issue.

Did some buying/sharing US miles with their bonuses, and used the miles for IAH-HNL in BF. I ended up spending roughly the same as what a coach ticket would have cost.

I guess its thanks to folks like you, who'd rather be in coach, that the rest of us get to snag these awards. :p

KenfromDE Jun 15, 2010 9:42 am


Originally Posted by elitefreak (Post 14099152)
..........Baileys goes great with your coffee (if you are so inclined). Enjoy!

Even better (courtesy of a NW FA) is a double on your ice cream!


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