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Originally Posted by nerdkiller
(Post 14069140)
2 little things that would improve my experience on the new seat. The remote has a 2x3 inch LCD screen which is very bright and stays on for about 20 seconds after you hit it. It's quite sensitive so if your lying flat its easy to bump and get the light in your eyes. the lie flat seat is superb, I can't ever go back to non lieflat now, seriously. I never even went totally lie flat, but the full footrest extension and ottoman like end part, and the fully flexible upright to lieflat or anywhere in between. The seat also works much faster than the old lounger style seat, and is infinitely more comfy with its padding. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/...c941b5c5_m.jpg |
Originally Posted by Falcon20
(Post 14065143)
No complaints, just an observation.
FRA-IAH last week on 767-400 and was lucky enough to snag an upgrade into first. I rarely get the opportunity to go first on a TATL so I was looking forward to relaxing and stretching out for the 11 hour flight. I placed all my tech gear (headphones, laptop, etc) in the seat pocket in front of me and was ready to enjoy the long ride to Houston. All was great until about an hour after liftoff when the woman in front of me in 1A decided to utilize the “Lay flat” feature on her seat and proceeded to slowly go backward as though she was preparing for a launch to Venus. Although a bit annoying, I decided I could live with it since I was happily able get up and stretch my legs at anytime and I figured she couldn’t sleep that long (could she?). Then things got a little bit dicier. Apparently lulled by his wife’s incessant snoring, Mr. Astronaut in 1B starts to nod off and decides to hit the full recline switch to faithfully follow his partners drifting off to snooze-land. So here I am next to the window in 2A with two passengers in front of me, heads in my lap, their headphones on, eyes covered by Lone Ranger masks, and blankets drawn up to their chins. I started to get the feeling this was more than just a cat nap. “OK”, I thought. Getting a little more annoying but I can still live with it. Even though egress from my seat is a real challenge because I now have to contort my upper and lower body like a pre-pubescent Russian gymnast, lean forward as though I’m about to kiss my neighbor in 2B, scoot sideways like a crab on the beach and finally exit to freedom into the aisle. All the while trying to avoid impaling my footprints on Mr. and Mrs. Astronauts foreheads. “OK”, I thought once again. Not exactly what I bargained for when I went for the upgrade but thank goodness CO engineering designed enough room to get in and out no matter what the people in front of you do . That is until your next door neighbor in 2B raises his leg rest to its maximum extended position, which is just about a half a millimeter from Mr. Astronaut’s fully-reclined, sleep inducing seat back. So here I am in 2A, trapped in my seat like a wild Raccoon in an iron cage, bounded by the seat backs of Mr. and Mrs. Astronaut in front and the fully extended legs of Mr. “I think I’ll snooze a little too” on my right. It was on the verge of being claustrophobic. Realizing there was little I could do (aside from creating major scene and causing a diversion to Greenland to throw me off the plane) I decided to just do some work until they awoke. Remember the tech gear I stowed in the pocket in front of me prior to take off? Well, that pocket was now unreachable underneath the fully prone seat back of Mrs. Astronaut and hardly accessible by any human. Luckily, I always carry my spelunker gear in my pocket so I pulled out my nylon safety rope, lighted helmet, hiking boots and bread crumbs to mark my trail and slid slowly and cautiously under the seat back in front of me to retrieve my tech gear. Hours later, after my neighbor’s 12 Ambien had finally worn off, they all moved their seat backs to the upright and locked position just in time to get their arrival meals. In retrospect, I guess I could have done a few things different. Maybe I could have asked nicely to limit the recline, maybe I shouldn’t worry about waking up people if I have to go the restroom, or maybe, just maybe, I’ll just stand my ground, put up a huge hissy-fit and protest at the top of my lungs that my “Seat Rights” are being violated. Anyone know what Greenland’s like in the summer? |
Opps, still have serious jet lag. The other thing, actually I don't think there is another thing. Maybe the FA should put up the rope to block the galley just beyond the front bathroom before scolding me for standing in it while waiting to pee. Felt like a 4th grader walking into the teachers lounge.
Seriously, they could work on the attitude. Got more than quite the evil eye when I disturbed the attendant reading their newspaper when I wanted something to eat midflight. Actyually she wouldnt get up, yelled across the kitchen to someone else to do it for me. Also, the new blankets are a HUGE improvement. |
love the middle
love the aisle love the new blankets and love the new flatbeds . . . but i think getting out from the window with the new flat bed in lay-flat position is even MORE difficult. No way to do it without getting "very close" with your seatmate on the aisle. |
Originally Posted by nerdkiller
(Post 14069140)
Just rode in 2A on a 772 lie flat back from Shanghai. 2A is a bulk head on that plane so I didnt have that trouble.
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
(Post 14065143)
No complaints, just an observation.
FRA-IAH last week on 767-400 and was lucky enough to snag an upgrade into first. I rarely get the opportunity to go first on a TATL so I was looking forward to relaxing and stretching out for the 11 hour flight. I placed all my tech gear (headphones, laptop, etc) in the seat pocket in front of me and was ready to enjoy the long ride to Houston. All was great until about an hour after liftoff when the woman in front of me in 1A decided to utilize the “Lay flat” feature on her seat and proceeded to slowly go backward as though she was preparing for a launch to Venus. Although a bit annoying, I decided I could live with it since I was happily able get up and stretch my legs at anytime and I figured she couldn’t sleep that long (could she?). Then things got a little bit dicier. Apparently lulled by his wife’s incessant snoring, Mr. Astronaut in 1B starts to nod off and decides to hit the full recline switch to faithfully follow his partners drifting off to snooze-land. So here I am next to the window in 2A with two passengers in front of me, heads in my lap, their headphones on, eyes covered by Lone Ranger masks, and blankets drawn up to their chins. I started to get the feeling this was more than just a cat nap. “OK”, I thought. Getting a little more annoying but I can still live with it. Even though egress from my seat is a real challenge because I now have to contort my upper and lower body like a pre-pubescent Russian gymnast, lean forward as though I’m about to kiss my neighbor in 2B, scoot sideways like a crab on the beach and finally exit to freedom into the aisle. All the while trying to avoid impaling my footprints on Mr. and Mrs. Astronauts foreheads. “OK”, I thought once again. Not exactly what I bargained for when I went for the upgrade but thank goodness CO engineering designed enough room to get in and out no matter what the people in front of you do . That is until your next door neighbor in 2B raises his leg rest to its maximum extended position, which is just about a half a millimeter from Mr. Astronaut’s fully-reclined, sleep inducing seat back. So here I am in 2A, trapped in my seat like a wild Raccoon in an iron cage, bounded by the seat backs of Mr. and Mrs. Astronaut in front and the fully extended legs of Mr. “I think I’ll snooze a little too” on my right. It was on the verge of being claustrophobic. Realizing there was little I could do (aside from creating major scene and causing a diversion to Greenland to throw me off the plane) I decided to just do some work until they awoke. Remember the tech gear I stowed in the pocket in front of me prior to take off? Well, that pocket was now unreachable underneath the fully prone seat back of Mrs. Astronaut and hardly accessible by any human. Luckily, I always carry my spelunker gear in my pocket so I pulled out my nylon safety rope, lighted helmet, hiking boots and bread crumbs to mark my trail and slid slowly and cautiously under the seat back in front of me to retrieve my tech gear. Hours later, after my neighbor’s 12 Ambien had finally worn off, they all moved their seat backs to the upright and locked position just in time to get their arrival meals. In retrospect, I guess I could have done a few things different. Maybe I could have asked nicely to limit the recline, maybe I shouldn’t worry about waking up people if I have to go the restroom, or maybe, just maybe, I’ll just stand my ground, put up a huge hissy-fit and protest at the top of my lungs that my “Seat Rights” are being violated. Anyone know what Greenland’s like in the summer? |
Originally Posted by Boghopper
(Post 14071779)
Two words: Aisle Seat
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Originally Posted by CO 1E
(Post 14068956)
I don't have any problem waking up the person next to me if I find myself in that situation (which is rarely) and have to use the restroom.
Agree if you get in the aisle seat be prepared to get up - part of the deal. I cannot sleep on a flight at all. If I am in the window and my neighbor pulls out all the sleep gear I ask them if they want to switch. If they decline I simply say be prepared to get up when I need to get out and if you are sleeping I will wake you up. What I hate is the people who get the aisle seat, dawn the sleep gear (neck thing, mask and blanket) as soon as they sit down. If you want to sleep undisturbed then grab the window. |
During my tenure in Houston, I had similar experiences as the OP, but despite all the major inconveniences I am not willing to give up my window seat. Sure an aisle seat has some benefits, but most of all I try to stay in control of the window. On the daylight flights, like the FRA-IAH or as a matter of fact most Europe-US flights, I hate to have all the shades down five minutes after take-off. I had a good night sleep and am looking forward to the same at my destination. So, I always have this internal fight when choosing seats but in the end, I always end up in the window seat. Luckily, most of the times I am with my S/O and that makes getting out of the seat much more pleasant and much less complicated. However, the OPs points are well taken and generally confirmed from this FF.
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