Lima Upgrade Changes – Eff. Jun. 1, 2010
Jun 7, 2010, 9:58 am
#76
Join Date: Jun 2010
Programs: AA Platinum, CO Gold
Posts: 1
DFW-LIM
I am thoroughly disappointed. I had asked for a status match on CO for me and my husband mostly for the complementary upgrade option, since we will be commuting between DFW and LIM and it is much more convenient to fly through Houston that through MIA.
I got our tickets on May 13th and then matched, so I found out about the change in policy afterwards.
Now flying AA through MIA with upgrades w miles is just as good an option.
I got our tickets on May 13th and then matched, so I found out about the change in policy afterwards.
Now flying AA through MIA with upgrades w miles is just as good an option.
Jun 18, 2010, 3:54 pm
#77
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA PLT
Posts: 1,122
EWR-LIM going weekly?
Sorry if this is posted elsewhere but I just noticed that EWR-LIM goes weekly (Saturday only) from September 7.
Jun 18, 2010, 5:25 pm
#78
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: FLL
Programs: UA 1K, B6 Mosaic
Posts: 824
This flight always take a short "break". It is back on 12/16/2010 to daily.
Aug 21, 2010, 6:54 pm
#79
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 3,169
i noticed that in december, IAH-LIM is operated by a 753. are they still charging the BF fee for that flight, if the AC is domestic config? maybe its and error.
id be so po'd if i paid to upgrade to BF and got stuck on the 753. does that AC even have the range?
id be so po'd if i paid to upgrade to BF and got stuck on the 753. does that AC even have the range?
Aug 21, 2010, 7:20 pm
#80
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: PDX
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Plat
Posts: 11,500
I doubt that the upgrade fee would apply since it is not BF metal or service on the 753.
Aug 21, 2010, 8:15 pm
#81
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: DFW
Programs: AA PLT
Posts: 487
Hmmmm... Methinks IAH-LIM is no longer BF, and is once again "International Business." If I try to book the front cabin for IAH-LIM, it shows Int'l business, not BF (and my fake booking is for next week, mind you). And if I try to book an economy ticket and upgrade, it's only miles (no fee). But I think EWR-LIM is still BF. If I try to book front cabin for EWR-LIM, it shows as BF. Also, if I try to book an economy ticket and upgrade, it's miles+fee. Finally, if you look at the BF dining page, there are only menus for EWR-LIM.
Conclusion: IAH-LIM is back to Int'l Business status. The big question now is: Is IAH-LIM eligible for EUA once again? (The elite upgrades info page indicates that it isn't, but I wonder if that's outdated.)
Conclusion: IAH-LIM is back to Int'l Business status. The big question now is: Is IAH-LIM eligible for EUA once again? (The elite upgrades info page indicates that it isn't, but I wonder if that's outdated.)
Aug 21, 2010, 8:26 pm
#82
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: PSM
Posts: 69,232
Aug 21, 2010, 10:21 pm
#83
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: PDX
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Plat
Posts: 11,500
Hmmmm... Methinks IAH-LIM is no longer BF, and is once again "International Business." If I try to book the front cabin for IAH-LIM, it shows Int'l business, not BF (and my fake booking is for next week, mind you). And if I try to book an economy ticket and upgrade, it's only miles (no fee). But I think EWR-LIM is still BF. If I try to book front cabin for EWR-LIM, it shows as BF. Also, if I try to book an economy ticket and upgrade, it's miles+fee. Finally, if you look at the BF dining page, there are only menus for EWR-LIM.
Conclusion: IAH-LIM is back to Int'l Business status. The big question now is: Is IAH-LIM eligible for EUA once again? (The elite upgrades info page indicates that it isn't, but I wonder if that's outdated.)
Conclusion: IAH-LIM is back to Int'l Business status. The big question now is: Is IAH-LIM eligible for EUA once again? (The elite upgrades info page indicates that it isn't, but I wonder if that's outdated.)
Aug 22, 2010, 8:29 pm
#84
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: MSP
Programs: UA Gold
Posts: 63
I wonder if their just putting the 753 for the holiday season only.
Aug 23, 2010, 12:11 am
#85
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 3,169
Based on COinsider's OP, flights from the "the U.S. to Lima" will now require a copay to upgrade as they "better align" their flights due to length.
NEVER did he make a mention that it was only going to be EWR-LIM. However, as stated previously, only EWR-LIM has been added to the BF dining page.
im thinking CO is starting something slightly fishy. it seems EWR-LIM will require a BF copay plus miles and will be considered BF. IAH-LIM has lost its EUA eligibility but will only require miles to upgrade and it will be marketed as domestic FC/Intl BC. that will allow CO to swap AC as they see fit. this is just what im thinking is going on.
NEVER did he make a mention that it was only going to be EWR-LIM. However, as stated previously, only EWR-LIM has been added to the BF dining page.
im thinking CO is starting something slightly fishy. it seems EWR-LIM will require a BF copay plus miles and will be considered BF. IAH-LIM has lost its EUA eligibility but will only require miles to upgrade and it will be marketed as domestic FC/Intl BC. that will allow CO to swap AC as they see fit. this is just what im thinking is going on.
Aug 23, 2010, 3:30 pm
#86
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 27,233
im thinking CO is starting something slightly fishy. it seems EWR-LIM will require a BF copay plus miles and will be considered BF. IAH-LIM has lost its EUA eligibility but will only require miles to upgrade and it will be marketed as domestic FC/Intl BC. that will allow CO to swap AC as they see fit. this is just what im thinking is going on.
And now after a few months they're finding that their analysis & outlook was incorrect, at least on the IAH route.
Either that or they have a better use for the 752 on another route or really need the extra capacity with the 753.
Oct 21, 2010, 12:58 am
#87
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Former UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 576
Hmmmm... Methinks IAH-LIM is no longer BF, and is once again "International Business." If I try to book the front cabin for IAH-LIM, it shows Int'l business, not BF (and my fake booking is for next week, mind you). And if I try to book an economy ticket and upgrade, it's only miles (no fee). But I think EWR-LIM is still BF. If I try to book front cabin for EWR-LIM, it shows as BF. Also, if I try to book an economy ticket and upgrade, it's miles+fee. Finally, if you look at the BF dining page, there are only menus for EWR-LIM.
Conclusion: IAH-LIM is back to Int'l Business status. The big question now is: Is IAH-LIM eligible for EUA once again? (The elite upgrades info page indicates that it isn't, but I wonder if that's outdated.)
Conclusion: IAH-LIM is back to Int'l Business status. The big question now is: Is IAH-LIM eligible for EUA once again? (The elite upgrades info page indicates that it isn't, but I wonder if that's outdated.)
Oct 21, 2010, 6:52 am
#88
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: PDX
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Plat
Posts: 11,500
Oct 21, 2010, 10:45 am
#89
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: IAH
Programs: CO Plat
Posts: 149
I have flown IAH-LIM for the past 13 years at least 4 times a year (some years 20 times). I understand the reasons of the distance vs the service to be provided as a BF route but I am not sure if CO has considered the following reasons:
1) Most people that fly in South America are not CO Elites or any kind of * Star Elites. This is due to the short distances of the countries there and that most people (tourists) will come to the states once or twice a year only.
2) Offering a truly BF product will not attact more costumers as stated in 1) since most passengers are not business passengers.
As as result, i think we will see many flights to LIM going with an empty BF cabin. IMO this is just a way of CO to attempt to collect more revenue via the fees to be charged in this route.
1) Most people that fly in South America are not CO Elites or any kind of * Star Elites. This is due to the short distances of the countries there and that most people (tourists) will come to the states once or twice a year only.
2) Offering a truly BF product will not attact more costumers as stated in 1) since most passengers are not business passengers.
As as result, i think we will see many flights to LIM going with an empty BF cabin. IMO this is just a way of CO to attempt to collect more revenue via the fees to be charged in this route.
Oct 21, 2010, 12:15 pm
#90
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: EWR
Posts: 318
As of a week or so ago IAHLIM is no longer considered a BF flight and is now eligible for Elite upgrades. EWRLIM is still BF and not eligible.