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dergon darkhelm Apr 15, 2010 5:47 am

Volcanic activity 4/15 CO flights..
 
edited on 4/16


http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...elnotices.aspx


Operations Summary
As of 7:04 a.m. Central, Fri., Apr. 16, 2010

A VOLCANO LOCATED IN ICELAND HAS ERUPTED AND VOLCANIC ASH POSES A POTENTIAL PROBLEM FOR FLIGHTS TRANSITTING THE ATLANTIC. FLIGHTS WESTBOUND TO THE UNITED STATES WILL MOST LIKELY BE REROUTED AROUND THE ASH CLOUD. FLIGHTS MAY BE DELAYED DUE TO FUEL STOPS, EXTENDED FLIGHT TIME OR MAY BE CANCELLED. MORE UPDATED INFORMATION WILL FOLLOW AS THE SITUATION UNFOLDS.

Please contact Continental airlines for expected delays or cancellations for the following cities: Dublin, Shannon, Amsterdam, Brussels, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Oslo, Berlin, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Paris and in the U.K. - London (Heathrow), Birmingham, Belfast, Manchester, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Bristol.


Continental is providing the option to re-schedule or re-route your travel once, without penalty, if you are ticketed to/from one of the cities listed below.* If your flight has been cancelled, a refund to the original form of payment can be requested. If you are traveling using a OnePass Reward, redeposit fees will be waived. Travel must be completed by the original validity dates specified on the ticket and changes must be confirmed in the same class of service as the original ticket. The value of the ticket may also be used towards purchasing another Continental Airlines ticket.

Airports: Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS); Belfast, Northern Ireland (BFS); Berlin, Germany (TXL - Tegel);Birmingham, England (BHX); Bristol, England (BRS); Brussels, Belgium (BRU); Copenhagen, Denmark (CPH); Dublin, Ireland (DUB); Edinburgh, Scotland (EDI); Frankfurt, Germany (FRA); Glasgow, Scotland (GLA); Hamburg, Germany (HAM); London, England (LHR - Heathrow); Manchester, England (MAN), Oslo, Norway (OSL); Paris, France (CDG); Shannon, Ireland (SNN); Stockholm, Sweden (ARN - Arlanda);

martinfoss Apr 15, 2010 6:04 am

I'm wondering why Oslo isn't mentioned. I know that last nights CO38 was cancelled, and according to co.com, it was due to ATC. However, Oslo Airport closed down completely at 10.00 AM today, so even if CO38 had made it to OSL, CO39 would have been stranded.

bcmatt Apr 15, 2010 7:33 am

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for BHX-EWR tomorrow morning... even a heavy delay would be preferable to cancellation, but I am starting to suspect the problems over UK and the Nordic countries are not going to have completely cleared up overnight.

Oh, well - we can expect a beautiful sunset tonight apparently!

Meanwhile, the Guardian has pretty much everything you could ever want to know about volcanoes and aviation, and an ongoing update of the situation: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog...uption-iceland

ETA: from www.nats.co.uk

Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Thurs April 15, 14:00

The cloud of volcanic ash is now spread across the UK and continuing to travel south. In line with international civil aviation policy, no flights other than agreed emergencies are currently permitted in UK controlled airspace. Following a review of the latest Met Office information, NATS advises that these restrictions will remain in place in UK controlled airspace until 0700 tomorrow, Friday 16 April, at the earliest. We will review further Met Office information and at 2000 today (local) we will advise the arrangements that will be in place through to 1300 tomorrow.

knit-in Apr 15, 2010 8:07 am


Originally Posted by martinfoss (Post 13775559)
I'm wondering why Oslo isn't mentioned. I know that last nights CO38 was cancelled, and according to co.com, it was due to ATC. However, Oslo Airport closed down completely at 10.00 AM today, so even if CO38 had made it to OSL, CO39 would have been stranded.

I was reading a news report earlier that AMS was closed too?

SirRagnar Apr 15, 2010 8:22 am


Originally Posted by knit-in (Post 13776212)
I was reading a news report earlier that AMS was closed too?

Most of Northern and Western Europe is closed down - also AMS.

CPH is expected to be closed for most of the weekend.

Vulcan Apr 15, 2010 10:02 am

I guess this means everything to China will go West over Canada

rkkwan Apr 15, 2010 10:30 am


Originally Posted by Vulcan (Post 13777058)
I guess this means everything to China will go West over Canada

Flights to China all go north via North Pole anyways.

It did mean flights to India were taking a much more southerly route last night:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...056Z/KEWR/VIDP

Bonehead Apr 15, 2010 10:38 am


Originally Posted by rkkwan (Post 13777253)
...It does mean flights to India are taking a much more southerly route:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...056Z/KEWR/VIDP

Over LHR? Then why are the UK airports closed? Something seems amiss here...

flyingwheels Apr 15, 2010 10:42 am


Originally Posted by knit-in (Post 13776212)
I was reading a news report earlier that AMS was closed too?

True. This morning, aircontrol already decided airspace about the Netherlands would be closed, starting at 7 pm local time. About an hour ago, it was decided airspace is closed since 6 pm dutch time. At this moment, 500 flights from AMS alone are already cancelled. Some of tomorrows flights have also already been cancelled.

Besides AMS, airspace is been told to also close above Belgium, Luxemburg and part of Germany. Norway etc is also closed as we speak. Basically, airports have been 'late' in confirming closure of airspace. Aircontrol did pretty OK, informing folks way in advance. Such a shame not all airports followed suit but took hours before confirming. Some airlines already started arranging things this morning, others didn't start until about 4 pm local time.

It's the biggest airtravel delay we've ever seen caused by natural phenomena. It's so weird to watch online aircraft tracking and seeing not one plane above our little corner of the world. Never seen it before and doubt I will any day soon. (and hope!).

For those with EU-bound flights; it can pay off to follow some of the EU news sources, especially with aircontrol being so early in announcing when which airspace will be closed.

rkkwan Apr 15, 2010 10:54 am


Originally Posted by Bonehead (Post 13777312)
Over LHR? Then why are the UK airports closed? Something seems amiss here...

That flight was from last night. Before the airspace over southern England was shut down.

GIGFY Apr 15, 2010 11:25 am


Originally Posted by bcmatt (Post 13775988)
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for BHX-EWR tomorrow morning... even a heavy delay would be preferable to cancellation, but I am starting to suspect the problems over UK and the Nordic countries are not going to have completely cleared up overnight.

Oh, well - we can expect a beautiful sunset tonight apparently!

Meanwhile, the Guardian has pretty much everything you could ever want to know about volcanoes and aviation, and an ongoing update of the situation: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog...uption-iceland

ETA: from www.nats.co.uk

Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Thurs April 15, 14:00

The cloud of volcanic ash is now spread across the UK and continuing to travel south. In line with international civil aviation policy, no flights other than agreed emergencies are currently permitted in UK controlled airspace. Following a review of the latest Met Office information, NATS advises that these restrictions will remain in place in UK controlled airspace until 0700 tomorrow, Friday 16 April, at the earliest. We will review further Met Office information and at 2000 today (local) we will advise the arrangements that will be in place through to 1300 tomorrow.

I hope you already know this, but if not, I am very sorry to say that tonight's CO26 EWR-BHX is showing as cancelled on co.com., so it looks as if you are out of luck for tomorrow.

Hope you can sort out some kind of decent alternative, and soon.

Here in Wiltshire, it does look as if we are in for a great sunset, but I guess that is little consolation for you...

Good luck.

cwf Apr 15, 2010 12:28 pm

Friday's flights are being cancelled already...
 
Even though the UK is reviewing the situation at 8pm Thursday, Continental has already cancelled flight 5 for 4/16. They put me on the 4/18 out of LHR. I called Continental, flights from BHX and Bristol to the US are already cancelled tomorrow and booked on Saturday.

There goes the weekend.

bcmatt Apr 15, 2010 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by GIGFY (Post 13777614)
I hope you already know this, but if not, I am very sorry to say that tonight's CO26 EWR-BHX is showing as cancelled on co.com., so it looks as if you are out of luck for tomorrow.

Cheers, yes I found that out a few hours ago :)

Called CO and the next flight they could offer (from BHX, MAN or LHR) was Monday(!), so went for the full refund with no penalties, as Monday was too late to speak at a conference on Saturday!

Shame, but not the end of the world.

cjgibson Apr 15, 2010 12:46 pm

The travel change waiver has been expanded:

Dates: 4/14-4/18

For travel to/from/through: AMS, BFS, BHX, BRS, BRU, CPH, DUB, EDI, GLA, LHR, MAN, OSL, CDG, SNN, ARN.

Should be a nice night to see some 757s, 767s, and 777s parked at EWR! Wonder if those planes might make a few domestic turns these next several days...

Bonehead Apr 15, 2010 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by cjgibson (Post 13778193)
...Wonder if those planes might make a few domestic turns these next several days...

There has been some whining about lack of upgrades AUS-EWR. Maybe a few 772s on that route will quiet the madding hordes.


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