Paying for upgrade, economy to ZE class, do I still get EQMs?
Feb 10, 2010, 4:37 pm
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The original class I booked was actually H, which then became a ZE on upgrade, and then became a ZM on my statement.
I still don't fully understand it: does ZE = upgraded H ? There is an E class, so I would assume ZE = upgraded E, but I've never seen a ZH, for example.
This is pure curiosity at this point...
I still don't fully understand it: does ZE = upgraded H ? There is an E class, so I would assume ZE = upgraded E, but I've never seen a ZH, for example.
This is pure curiosity at this point...
This is why your OP statement shows ZM. You paid to move yourself to the M bucket and were then upgraded.
Don't confuse fare buckets with what shows on your statement. They are not always the same thing. For example, let's say you got an EUA from a S fare. You would be booked into the R bucket but your OP statement would show ZS.
Feb 10, 2010, 4:41 pm
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What actually happens is that you're on an H fare, you buy-up to M, then you get the instant upgrade to ZE. (the M-->ZE portion happens behind the scenes, and your receipt will never actually show M, just ZE).
This is why your OP statement shows ZM. You paid to move yourself to the M bucket.
This is why your OP statement shows ZM. You paid to move yourself to the M bucket.
$50 got me from H-->M
Plat elite got me M-->ZE
Statement shows I paid for M and got a FC seat, therefore ZM.
The fog seems to be lifting....
Feb 10, 2010, 4:50 pm
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Fare Buckets for Instant Upgrades
All Elites
B Instant Upgrade books into ZE
Y Instant Upgrade books into FE
Platinum Elites
M Instant Upgrade books into ZE
Remember, EQM earnings come from the fare bucket you purchase, not the fare bucket you fly in. That's why you and a friend could book a M/B fare on the same flight, both upgrade into the ZE bucket and earn 100%/150% respectively.
The same logic applies if you were to use miles to upgrade. If you book into R from a B fare you earn 150%. If you book into R from an M you would earn 100%.
Feb 10, 2010, 4:51 pm
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Feb 10, 2010, 4:56 pm
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Feb 10, 2010, 8:28 pm
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The original class I booked was actually H, which then became a ZE on upgrade, and then became a ZM on my statement.
I still don't fully understand it: does ZE = upgraded H ? There is an E class, so I would assume ZE = upgraded E, but I've never seen a ZH, for example.
This is pure curiosity at this point...
I still don't fully understand it: does ZE = upgraded H ? There is an E class, so I would assume ZE = upgraded E, but I've never seen a ZH, for example.
This is pure curiosity at this point...
FWIW, most upgrades credit as Z_ where the _ is the original paid bucket. Actually the B fares are the only one I can think of that don't.
Sep 12, 2010, 9:35 pm
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I booked a V fare to SJU for the family in Oct. I bought up with money and now it's ZE. The previous entries are about B & M fares. Will I only the V fare miles or Z fare since I bought up in advance.
If I paid $200 to buy up why wouldn't I get the Z fare elite bonus?
If I paid $200 to buy up why wouldn't I get the Z fare elite bonus?
Sep 13, 2010, 12:55 am
#23
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If you are platinum M can buy you up to first. M is cheaper than B, but will only earn you 100% EQM whereas B earns you 150%.
I wonder if there is a way to tell (from the record/receipt) whether you bought up to an M or B fare.
Sep 13, 2010, 1:21 am
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Flexible Fare Search -- EWR-SJU roundtrp for date range Sep-Mar on carrier CO -- Continental Airlines
Carrier|From |To |FareBasis |Fare |Min |Max |Adv. Purch|Earliest |Latest |
CO |EWR |SJU |NR213NN |USD$ 259 |seerul| |21days | | |
CO |EWR |SJU |SR213NN |USD$ 299 |seerul| |21days | | |
CO |EWR |SJU |WR143NN |USD$ 339 |seerul| |14days | | |
CO |EWR |SJU |VR103NN |USD$ 380 |seerul| |10days | | |
CO |EWR |SJU |QR73NN |USD$ 420 |seerul| |7days | | |
CO |EWR |SJU |KR33NN |USD$ 520 |seerul| |3days | | |
CO |EWR |SJU |MA0NN |USD$ 801 | | |seerules | | |
CO |EWR |SJU |BA0NN |USD$ 1002 | | |seerules | | |
CO |EWR |SJU |Y8 |USD$ 1272 | | |seerules | | |
CO |EWR |SJU |C8 |USD$ 1474 | | |seerules | | |
CO |EWR |SJU |Y |USD$ 1888 | | |seerules | | |
CO |EWR |SJU |C |USD$ 2412 | | |seerules | | |
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Sep 13, 2010, 6:00 am
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It seems to me as if the onscreen "buy Upgrade" offer is misleading because it indicates that if you buy an Upgrade with cash to first, you'll get the miles associated with First Class. I recently paid for an upgrade on a flight to Mexico (EWR-IAH, IAH-BJX) and one of the reasons I paid for it is because I'm otherwise likely to be about 1,000 short of qualifying for Gold this year. (I also took it because EWR-IAH is a long enough flight to make a guaranteed upgrade to 1st worth the price I paid.) But I'm not sure I would have paid for the upgrade if I didn't think I was getting the 50% EQMs.
Apr 8, 2011, 2:07 pm
#26
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Miles & More Upgrade from V to ZE First
I was flying from EWR to SJU and I'm wondering how much Miles I will earn as a Lufthansa/Swiss SENATOR (Star Gold, > 100'000 Status Miles per Year).
My girlfriend (OnePass base member) got the offer from V Class to First for USD 89.-- instead of USD 169.--
I got the same offer from V Class to First for USD 39.-- and booked it into ZE 1 day prior to the flight as offered.
On Miles & More Lufthansa the rule for Continental is:
First Class F = 300 % Miles
Business Class C D J Z = 200 % Miles
Economy Class B Y = 150 % Miles
Economy Class E H M Q S T U V W = 100 % Miles
Economy Class G K L = 50 % Miles
I'm wondering now, how Continental & Lufthansa are handlling this now: Do I get 300 % for First (don't think so after reading all the OnePass reviews) or do I get 200 % as of Z class (hope so!!!) or do I get the Economy 150 % or just the 100 % because the original fare before the paid!!! Upgrade was V = 100 % ? ...
I'll definitely keep you updated on this question as soon it's on my account.
My girlfriend (OnePass base member) got the offer from V Class to First for USD 89.-- instead of USD 169.--
I got the same offer from V Class to First for USD 39.-- and booked it into ZE 1 day prior to the flight as offered.
On Miles & More Lufthansa the rule for Continental is:
First Class F = 300 % Miles
Business Class C D J Z = 200 % Miles
Economy Class B Y = 150 % Miles
Economy Class E H M Q S T U V W = 100 % Miles
Economy Class G K L = 50 % Miles
I'm wondering now, how Continental & Lufthansa are handlling this now: Do I get 300 % for First (don't think so after reading all the OnePass reviews) or do I get 200 % as of Z class (hope so!!!) or do I get the Economy 150 % or just the 100 % because the original fare before the paid!!! Upgrade was V = 100 % ? ...
I'll definitely keep you updated on this question as soon it's on my account.
Apr 8, 2011, 2:22 pm
#27
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Do you get options to pay for upgrades at check in?
Apr 8, 2011, 7:27 pm
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On Miles & More Lufthansa the rule for Continental is:
First Class F = 300 % Miles
Business Class C D J Z = 200 % Miles
Economy Class B Y = 150 % Miles
Economy Class E H M Q S T U V W = 100 % Miles
Economy Class G K L = 50 % Miles
I'm wondering now, how Continental & Lufthansa are handlling this now:
First Class F = 300 % Miles
Business Class C D J Z = 200 % Miles
Economy Class B Y = 150 % Miles
Economy Class E H M Q S T U V W = 100 % Miles
Economy Class G K L = 50 % Miles
I'm wondering now, how Continental & Lufthansa are handlling this now:
You will earn based on what you paid, so 100% for V class.