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SS255 Dec 17, 2009 9:38 am


Originally Posted by ArizonaGuy (Post 13003894)
There's a US thread on this. Many *A awards didn't change. To Europe for Y/C/F effective January 6th it will be 60/100/125, which will also be the same for S. America. The US definition of North Asia (includes HKG) remains unchanged at 60/90/120. Ditto for South/Central Asia at 80/120/160, South Pacific at 80/110/140 and Africa at 70/110/150.

Others have made handy comparison charts of old/new. For the most part, US *A awards are still much better, or slightly better than CO/UA and I have to think that's by design since US doesn't have much else going for it over its domestic *A brethren.

Except if you want to redeem US miles on their own metal in Envoy to Europe" This "unrestricted" award level is increasing to 350K miles. US does not allow you to book award travel online on partners' metal, so I suspect that alot of "desperate" customers will fall into the trap of redeeming the 350K Envoy award.

grizzly Dec 18, 2009 1:21 pm

Just booked my first award flights since CO switched to *A. Thanks to the ANA tool, a very easy process. Found the flights I needed, rang up CO, gave them the flight numbers, done deal. 2 people on UA, LH, JK and SK to Europe for 55K each. Now if CO could just get everything ANA can see available for booking on continental.com...

Brendan Jan 16, 2010 2:38 pm

I have used the Websites of 5 *A airlines, & CO wins the championship by a mile!
1. COntinental.com shows us availability & bookability on any combination of *A airlines, while US, UA, AC & BD allow us to book only 100% their own metal. So fewer phone booking fees.
2. US & UA can't book an open-jaw on their Websites.
3. US has the nasty Award Processing Fee, meaning that there is no such thing as a free ticket (except for elites & DM Visa cardholders.)
4. CO.com is showing Low-miles availability from USA to St. Lucia, Caribbean on US metal on Feb. 20 ^ , which is a blackout date for US's own members!
5. UA & US both have some degree of the nasty 'no changes once travel has begun' rule :td: on partner awards. What about AC?
6. BD has generous rules but that excruciating India Call Centre (ICC) :td: !
7. CO.com allows mixing of cabin classes & high/low even on partner awards! Which is 2nd best to BD's allowing of one-ways.

All in all, I plan to start earning CO miles for my *A flights & use my last 25K US for 1 award, then Goodbye!

gleff Jan 16, 2010 4:50 pm


Originally Posted by Brendan (Post 13194120)
5. UA & US both have some degree of the nasty 'no changes once travel has begun' rule :td: on partner awards. What about AC?

With AC you can change flights and dates but have to keep same carriers/routings, and changes cost CAD$90

schley Jan 19, 2010 7:56 am

Great info this is just what I was looking for. My Dad has a choice of 4 airlines to put miles into on a Marriott Rewards travel package for the purposes of redeeming for flights to Scotland and Ireland from the US this summer.

Air Canada
Continental
United
US Airways

Is what he had to choose from and it seems like Continental is the winner with this thread. They fly EWR-EDI or GLA and fly to DUB as well.

Not sure about AC but I know UA is out for starnet blocking and US is 60k not 55k like CO. I don't know if CO has fuel surcharges but I don't think they do.

sbm12 Jan 19, 2010 8:14 am


Originally Posted by schley (Post 13210224)
I don't know if CO has fuel surcharges but I don't think they do.

They do not on reward tickets.

Bonehead Jan 19, 2010 8:30 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 13210328)
They do not on reward tickets.

But they sometimes add incorrectly and the agent needs to remove them "by hand" when finalizing the taxes and fees.

sbm12 Jan 19, 2010 9:01 am


Originally Posted by Bonehead (Post 13210430)
But they sometimes add incorrectly and the agent needs to remove them "by hand" when finalizing the taxes and fees.

Indeed, or it automatically gets kicked out in a sweep that they do after the fact. But as a matter of course they don't add them.

Isn't there one partner where the surcharge is a YR rather than a YQ and it is being added still? I remember something about that.

schley Jan 19, 2010 10:12 am

I just spent the last couple hours talking to CO and UA about a redemption from ORD-EDI-DUB-ORD

I was surprised to find out UA had the flights and options for my dates which were flexible at the saver level, whereas CO didn't have any at the saver level. I was expecting Starnet blocking all over the place but I was able to book and use some star alliance partners routing through LHR on the outbound and Toronto on AC on the return.

UA beat CO in this case and of course only taxes for UA on award tickets (same for CO I have learned.)

Brendan Jan 19, 2010 10:16 am

The major negative of CO is that they are oh-so-stingy with award space on their own flights. But as I said above, CO makes it easiest to book with multiple partners. Go figure!

channa Jan 19, 2010 11:09 am


Originally Posted by Brendan (Post 13211136)
The major negative of CO is that they are oh-so-stingy with award space on their own flights. But as I said above, CO makes it easiest to book with multiple partners. Go figure!

This has been the case for a while, and I'm not sure why it would be a negative.

There are plenty of partners with good service most everywhere, does it matter who you fly on, so long as their service and schedule are reasonable?


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