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This change affects users of the community as well. I know the some moderators worked hard on the freeipods.com conga line and were themselves on it. Now that newbies are not allowed to post in SPAM, the Conga line is dead and there hard work goes unrewarded (no ipod referalls for them). The conga lines also brought alot of new people to this site (from yahoo or google search) such as myself. Just my 2 cents.

And is there a single instance of any of these new members meaningfully participating in any other part of FT besides the SPAM pyramids?

"VenomizedCobra" - I just checked the link below and every single post you ever made on FT was in S.P.A.M. ... apart from this one. Nearly all of these were on the free IPOD and free flat screen TV conga lines.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/searc...earchid=340147

I may be wrong, but possibly that is not wants Randy FlyerTalk to facilitate? Perhaps for some reason he did not picture it as a Yahoo groups freebie free for all?

Add some airline advice and hotel mile earning tips etc, and you'll not only get over the 100 post mark, but you'll add something back to this great board. :)


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I respect the decision to not count post counts from Omni from this point on. I would agree with jfe's comment in this thread:


http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...ferrerid=15618

I would also add, remove all the rants and raves that some members occasionally get involved in as this has little, or nothing, to do with travel as well. I think the Omni post count did little to damage FlyerTalk. I do venture to Community often as I do a few other travel forums. Post count totals mean little to me as did the reputation point system. However, it appears to me that some people are hung up with status and post count totals is one way of attaining that status. To me, it is not about post count but post content. Just my 2 cents.

Oz,

Come on, please post 1 in this game. Please. :D We would welcome you with open arms. ^

Best regards,

RD ( a semi post padding monster ;) )

For those who think Omni is a bad hangout, try it and get to know the people there. I used to frequent the political threads there but found those to be too polarized. However, there are many threads there that are a great way to relieve my daily stress from work and travel. I have met some great people and the Who's Next to Post On Omni game has great people there. One thing is that this game has never had a flame post and the theme is very warm and friendly. I cannot say that for almost all threads and forums on FlyerTalk. I think Omni is valuable to aid in community for FlyerTalk and value many of the posts there. I think that most Omni posts I read add to FlyerTalk than some of the rants and attacks in posts I have read elsewhere on FlyerTalk.

and no need to worry about being accused of padding your post count anymore. ;)

Great post, RobotDoctor! I can fully second it...!

edited to add: The game thread has 448 new posts since Randys announcement, which seems not to be slower than before... ;)

Right on RobotDoctor. The who will post nest thread is one of the few threads on FT that I know of that award a prize of some kind at the end of the quarter. If thats not giving back, what is. Granted the political threads are heated, so avoid them if you like. Either way give Omni a chance you might be surprised.

More fun for the programmers
 

How about rather than getting "zero" post count for an OMNI post, you get "-1" or "-5" or something like that. So, once you get to the 100 post minimum, you've got to maintain activity in other forums in order to maintain the minimum post level to continue to post in OMNI. And it would be really great if this could be done retroactively. I think you'd find some long-time posters with 5,000+ post counts suddenly find themselves at a negative 2,000 non-OMNI-eligible post count.

(or maybe I just thought this post would be a good opportunity to get me one post closer to OMNI-eligiblity)

I appreciate the recent changes, but let's not make any harder for the tech guys at the HOM than it really is. ;)

aloha

...So if I post here, does it up my post count? ...Kickass! :p

Just 86 to go. ;)

I do see the need for the rule change but it is unfortunately very unfair to those who joined the conga line and completed their requirements in good faith. I think it would have been fairer to announce the rule change as going into effect at some date in the future (e.g. 60 days), which at least would have given some of those who had signed up under the previously extant policy a chance to get their completed referrals.

Just my two cents, and another precious post down.

I never knew the # of times you post was such an important thing to those with many posts. It isn't like you get a raise in salary, folks. :D

So does the post count reflect the number of post a person has as of the time that I'm looking at the person's post, or is it the number of posts the person had when they made the post? I think it updates, retroactively, everytime you post. So if ABCFlyer made post #12 in 2003 and post #878 today, I think that the 2003 post would indicate 878 posts if I looked at that post today.

I think that's just wrong. I mean, back in 2003, ABCFlyer was an idiot with only 12 posts, so you've got to take his/her advice with a grain of salt. But today, with 878 posts, what ABCFlyer says is pretty much gospel. Right?

Every post will always show your current number.

And I wouldn't take anything as gospel, be it a member with 1 post or with 100,000 posts ;)

I can point you to a few people who have 10 x 878 posts and are firmly in the former group and many members who hardly ever post who posts are far more "evangelical" than very heavy posters (some work for airlines, etc.) Post count should and does mean nothing to an informed FTer, however I still maintain that the "evangelist" tag can be very, very misleading to a new member.

I absolutely agree! I am very wary of evangelists of all kinds and some of these FT evangelists are actually quite informative, knowledgeable and generous. And they don't seem to want anything from me!

Best wishes,

Teacher49

That's right, the 2 SWUs were just a "free-will offering" ;)

So we basically joined the Conga under someone else's name for nothing... :( :confused:

2 down 98 to go. :p

I never really did care much about milepost counts, one way or the other.

However, because I am the one who launched the Who Will Be The Next FlyerTalk Member To Post? An OMNI Game thread, I am in favor of the exclusion of increasing one’s milepost count in OMNI because it eliminates the argument once and for all that that thread is used only to pad one’s milepost count.

I have not had a chance to post the latest standings in that thread (let alone answer my private messages and read all of the FlyerTalk threads that I would like to read) just yet, but I have noticed that — despite the new rule now in effect eliminating the ability to increase one’s milepost count in the OMNI forum — posting to that thread by FlyerTalk members does not seem to have decreased in the least, which proves that those who post in that thread are not posting there to increase their post count.

Furthermore, even when no prizes were offered in the game (as prizes are currently offered at the end of every quarter to those who score the most points), the thread was still quite popular.

I like to think that FlyerTalk members post to the Who Will Be The Next FlyerTalk Member To Post? An OMNI Game thread simply because they enjoy it. Everyone else is welcome to post to that thread where virtually everything — including miles, points and travel — is discussed.

Beyond this, milepost counts on FlyerTalk really do not matter much to me. However, milepost counts may matter to vampires who fly frequently...

So what happened to the no post count rule? I can't see if anything has changed.

I see that in the post Ozstamps made that it is currently showing:

Oh, that changed many moons ago, but don't worry, most of the posts that you are quoting were removed from my post count when the above mentioned thread was moved from OMNI to community and back

But all of my 14,000+ posts are still useless :p

Not so sure that is correct at all? (Disclosure - my tally there remains at #1. :cool: )

The matter was raised recently by members and TalkBoard is discussing it now, as advised here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=555158

It is true

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...20&postcount=5

Not that everything that Cholula says it's true, but everybody in that thread lost their post count when it was moved ;)

Just seemed relevant....:p

You think, I suspect this thread will be closed soon

First OMNI counted, then it didn't, then it did, and now it might not ;)

Thanks for the bump, underpressure. It's interesting to see how people felt then versus now. The opinion of our Fearless Leader (at least several years ago) is also very telling:

I wonder if he feels the same way today. I certainly do.

I'm just glad that the passage of time hasn't turned me into a flip-flopper. ;)

Obviously he changed his mind, as posts started counting again ;)

ya think? Hell, he sold the joint!:D

I was post #2 then, and post #2 now. :eek: :o :D

dh

Well some folks certainly have flip-flopped on this idea - IMHO.;)

Jenbel posted back then she supported Randy's decision to not count OMNI posts and said it was a "good idea". She publicly posted yesterday she has just voted on TB to keep them. :D

Me ..... exactly the same opinion as 3 years ago. Randy had the right idea.

Why can't anyone answer me what changed, and why are we discussing this again :mad:

Obviously Randy decided to make them count again, why is there a vote to change his latest decision?

Some things we just aren't destined to know, jfe. :(

...nor I.ozstamps actually did post in that thread, but you were nowhere to be found.

No wonder ozstamps never posted in that thread again!

By the way, I hope ozstamps does not mind, but I would like to publicly commend him here.

Despite his opinion of that thread, he posted once in it. The reason is because he wanted to correct some travel-related information that was posted in that thread.

Thank you, ozstamps, but not for posting in that thread — rather, for assisting another FlyerTalk member, which epitomizes the true spirit of FlyerTalk. It is all about community as well as miles, points and travel.

Did I miss something? What change? ;)

Did Flyertalk change its name to 'OmniFlyer'?

(going back to surf the net)

-BondAir

No, it's the difference between posting as a private member, when I only have to assess how such things affect me, and thinking of it as a Talkboard Member, when I have to look at a much bigger picture.

You call it flip-flopping, I call it responsibility.

please follow the discussion about OMNI post counts in the relevant thread in talkboard topics - not here
there's no need to bump old threads - this one is closed now.


regards

chrissxb
co-moderator
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