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TrojanHorse Sep 12, 2002 3:02 pm

Moderator - When and Why did this start?
 
I didn't see any announcement of this (or the Hilton board either)..

Whats up with this?

Whats the reasoning behind it?

Who chose the moderator?

techgirl Sep 12, 2002 3:08 pm

Um, essxjay USED to already be the moderator of both FT Community and Hilton. IIRC, she got very busy with work commitments or such and had to temporarily step back. I'm assuming she has been able to return to her original role.

In other words, this isn't unprecedented.

Welcome back Sam! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

blairvanhorn Sep 12, 2002 3:08 pm

Wow, this is great news!

Welcome back to the job, Essxjay! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

cactuspete Sep 12, 2002 3:28 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by techgirl:
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Randy Petersen Sep 12, 2002 4:28 pm

I welcome members who want to help us help members get great value out of FlyerTalk - whether helping new members understand where to post or to find other topics of interest since there is such a large number of posts on FlyerTalk (over 1.2 million at last count). You will find announcements over the next few days of additional Moderators. Please don't read a big brother here for editing, please read that we are in the member care business - How May We Help You?

Welcome back essxjay.

JonNYC Sep 12, 2002 5:41 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by blairvanhorn:
Wow, this is great news!

Welcome back to the job, Essxjay! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
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I'll gladly second (or fourth, or fifth, or sixth, or...) that any day! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

TrojanHorse Sep 12, 2002 5:44 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this moderator the one who called a well known flyer talker a troll????

I'm not sure I have too much respect for a moderator who uses those terms to good people

aceflyer2 Sep 12, 2002 6:31 pm

Welcome Sam!!

Randy Petersen Sep 12, 2002 6:49 pm

Let's make something clear here - moderators do have the right to make a comment as an individual member of this community. not everything they say can be construed as "offical". If there is a time when they stretch that, they know when they are wrong and i think have shown they can accept any consequences for that line. There aren't many long time members who have not from time to time crossed some line. I'm sure moderators have come to learn to be more "moderate" of their personal posting and in hindsight - that's a lesson to have been learned for FlyerTalk into the future.

Let's appreciate the time and efforts this group provides FlyerTalk and overall, I think we're better for their presense and I am willing to be patient as this group learns. now that we have that out of the way, I'm ready to announce the next Moderator....see other thread.

doc Sep 12, 2002 11:28 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Randy Petersen:

Let's make something clear here - moderators do have the right to make a comment as an individual member of this community. not everything they say can be construed as "offical". If there is a time when they stretch that, they know when they are wrong and i think have shown they can accept any consequences for that line. There aren't many long time members who have not from time to time crossed some line. I'm sure moderators have come to learn to be more "moderate" of their personal posting and in hindsight - that's a lesson to have been learned for FlyerTalk into the future.

Let's appreciate the time and efforts this group provides FlyerTalk and overall, I think we're better for their presense and I am willing to be patient as this group learns. now that we have that out of the way, I'm ready to announce the next Moderator....see other thread.
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Is there perchance some listed criteria upon which the selection of "Moderators" is presently being made?

Looking to the past, (and I'd naturally be willing to provide the numerous threads that still remain as references) one wonders, will "Moderators" be moderate, and be subject to the TOS now and in the future?

Is there perchance some listed criteria or any rational, tangible basis upon which a decision to perhaps not have "someone" serve, or continue to serve as a "Moderator" is/will be made?

With particular reference to the above comment regarding "...they know when they are wrong and i think have shown they can accept any consequences for that line..", I concur most heartily.

Yet could you kindly please elaborate upon where and how this "awareness" of being wrong was manifested and/or just what the suppossed "consequences" were, since it is not at all apparent to me!

Thanks very much! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

-Mark

ozstamps Sep 13, 2002 1:51 am

Some very interesting and (IMO) valid points doc.

Let us all hope that (future) actions do indeed speak louder than (past) words.

However people can and do change, and I look forward to witnessing that.

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SMessier Sep 13, 2002 2:29 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by doc:
[...] or just what the suppossed "consequences" were, since it is not at all apparent to me!</font>
I believe Randy has answered this more than once, including here:


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Randy Petersen:
I am very dissapointed with you all. I chose a long time ago to conduct the business of personal actions regarding members in private - and you've all known that for some time. I have never asked for any feedback from you because frankly that is a condition of use on this board.</font>
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/000041.html

PG Sep 13, 2002 10:25 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Randy Petersen:
Let's make something clear here - moderators do have the right to make a comment as an individual member of this community. not everything they say can be construed as "offical". If there is a time when they stretch that, they know when they are wrong and i think have shown they can accept any consequences for that line. There aren't many long time members who have not from time to time crossed some line. I'm sure moderators have come to learn to be more "moderate" of their personal posting and in hindsight - that's a lesson to have been learned for FlyerTalk into the future.

Let's appreciate the time and efforts this group provides FlyerTalk and overall, I think we're better for their presense and I am willing to be patient as this group learns. now that we have that out of the way, I'm ready to announce the next Moderator....see other thread.
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I've yet to see any acknowledgement from essxjay that she was wrong to call names. She did not edit her posts, or express any regret either by email or publicly. Nor am I sure if she has "learned" anything, since she had gone on a serial binge the last time and it seemed very conscious and deliberate at that time.

techgirl Sep 13, 2002 10:39 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by PG:
I've yet to see any acknowledgement from essxjay that she was wrong to call names. She did not edit her posts, or express any regret either by email or publicly. Nor am I sure if she has "learned" anything, since she had gone on a serial binge the last time and it seemed very conscious and deliberate at that time.</font>
Bygones = bygones ?

Come on guys... let it rest. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif


eMailman Sep 13, 2002 11:04 am

How about -

When posting as the Moderator, you are expected to be a shining example of FT decorum.

When posting as your individual handle, you have the same rights / responsibilities as every other member.

OK?


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