Cit ThankYou Points Devaluation
Jun 30, 2007, 6:48 am
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Cit ThankYou Points Devaluation
Well it looks like the ride for Thank You Points is over. They have increased the number of points required for most tickets and have also put a dollar cap 
. The fine print says that the point levels are correct as of July 15th, 2007 so maybe we can use the old chart till then. I certainly hope so!
COACH
Flights Starting Points Ticket Value (in Dollars)
Continental US & Alaska and Canada 20,000 Up to $400 in value
Mexico and Central America 45,000 Up to $900 in value
Hawaii and Caribbean 50,000 Up to $1,000 in value
Europe 60,000 Up to $1,200 in value
Puerto Rico to US (48 States) 40,000 Up to $800 in value
Middle East and Africa 80,000 Up to $1,600 in value
Asia 80,000 Up to $1,600 in value
South America 60,000 Up to $1,200 in value
Australia and South Pacific 100,000 Up to $2,000 in value
BUSINESS CLASS
Flights Starting Points Ticket Value (in Dollars)
Continental US & Alaska and Canada 90,000 Up to $2,700 in value
Mexico and Central America 120,000 Up to $3,600 in value
Hawaii and Caribbean 140,000 Up to $4,200 in value
Europe 180,000 Up to $5,400 in value
Puerto Rico to US (48 States) n/a n/a
Middle East and Africa 200,000 Up to $6,000 in value
Asia 240,000 Up to $7,200 in value
South America 180,000 Up to $5,400 in value
Australia and South Pacific 180,000 Up to $5,400 in
These point levels are current as of July 15th, 2007, however, since point levels are subject to change please contact a ThankYou Network Travel Specialist for the most current point pricing.
. The fine print says that the point levels are correct as of July 15th, 2007 so maybe we can use the old chart till then. I certainly hope so!COACH
Flights Starting Points Ticket Value (in Dollars)
Continental US & Alaska and Canada 20,000 Up to $400 in value
Mexico and Central America 45,000 Up to $900 in value
Hawaii and Caribbean 50,000 Up to $1,000 in value
Europe 60,000 Up to $1,200 in value
Puerto Rico to US (48 States) 40,000 Up to $800 in value
Middle East and Africa 80,000 Up to $1,600 in value
Asia 80,000 Up to $1,600 in value
South America 60,000 Up to $1,200 in value
Australia and South Pacific 100,000 Up to $2,000 in value
BUSINESS CLASS
Flights Starting Points Ticket Value (in Dollars)
Continental US & Alaska and Canada 90,000 Up to $2,700 in value
Mexico and Central America 120,000 Up to $3,600 in value
Hawaii and Caribbean 140,000 Up to $4,200 in value
Europe 180,000 Up to $5,400 in value
Puerto Rico to US (48 States) n/a n/a
Middle East and Africa 200,000 Up to $6,000 in value
Asia 240,000 Up to $7,200 in value
South America 180,000 Up to $5,400 in value
Australia and South Pacific 180,000 Up to $5,400 in
These point levels are current as of July 15th, 2007, however, since point levels are subject to change please contact a ThankYou Network Travel Specialist for the most current point pricing.
Last edited by piyush; Jul 1, 2007 at 7:57 pm
Jun 30, 2007, 7:46 am
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Well it looks like the ride for Thank You Points is over. They have increased the number of points required for most tickets and have also put a dollar cap . The fine print says that the point levels are correct as of July 15th, 2007 so maybe we can use the old chart till then. I certainly hope so!
COACH
Flights Starting Points Ticket Value (in Dollars)
Continental US & Alaska and Canada 20,000 Up to $400 in value from 25,000 points
Mexico and Central America 45,000 Up to $900 in value from 35,000 points
Hawaii and Caribbean 50,000 Up to $1,000 in value from 40,000 points
Europe 60,000 Up to $1,200 in value from 60,000 points
Puerto Rico to US (48 States) 40,000 Up to $800 in value from 40,000 points
Middle East and Africa 80,000 Up to $1,600 in value from 80,000 points
Asia 80,000 Up to $1,600 in value from 60,000 points
South America 60,000 Up to $1,200 in value from 60,000 points
Australia and South Pacific 100,000 Up to $2,000 in value from 100,000 points
BUSINESS CLASS
Flights Starting Points Ticket Value (in Dollars)
Continental US & Alaska and Canada 90,000 Up to $2,700 in value from 60,000 points
Mexico and Central America 120,000 Up to $3,600 in value from 60,000 points
Hawaii and Caribbean 140,000 Up to $4,200 in value from 75,000 points
Europe 180,000 Up to $5,400 in value from 165,000 points
Puerto Rico to US (48 States) n/a n/a
Middle East and Africa 200,000 Up to $6,000 in value from 130,000 points
Asia 240,000 Up to $7,200 in value from 165,000 points
South America 180,000 Up to $5,400 in value from 160,000 points
Australia and South Pacific 180,000 Up to $5,400 in from 180,000 points
These point levels are current as of July 15th, 2007, however, since point levels are subject to change please contact a ThankYou Network Travel Specialist for the most current point pricing.
. The fine print says that the point levels are correct as of July 15th, 2007 so maybe we can use the old chart till then. I certainly hope so!COACH
Flights Starting Points Ticket Value (in Dollars)
Continental US & Alaska and Canada 20,000 Up to $400 in value from 25,000 points
Mexico and Central America 45,000 Up to $900 in value from 35,000 points
Hawaii and Caribbean 50,000 Up to $1,000 in value from 40,000 points
Europe 60,000 Up to $1,200 in value from 60,000 points
Puerto Rico to US (48 States) 40,000 Up to $800 in value from 40,000 points
Middle East and Africa 80,000 Up to $1,600 in value from 80,000 points
Asia 80,000 Up to $1,600 in value from 60,000 points
South America 60,000 Up to $1,200 in value from 60,000 points
Australia and South Pacific 100,000 Up to $2,000 in value from 100,000 points
BUSINESS CLASS
Flights Starting Points Ticket Value (in Dollars)
Continental US & Alaska and Canada 90,000 Up to $2,700 in value from 60,000 points
Mexico and Central America 120,000 Up to $3,600 in value from 60,000 points
Hawaii and Caribbean 140,000 Up to $4,200 in value from 75,000 points
Europe 180,000 Up to $5,400 in value from 165,000 points
Puerto Rico to US (48 States) n/a n/a
Middle East and Africa 200,000 Up to $6,000 in value from 130,000 points
Asia 240,000 Up to $7,200 in value from 165,000 points
South America 180,000 Up to $5,400 in value from 160,000 points
Australia and South Pacific 180,000 Up to $5,400 in from 180,000 points
These point levels are current as of July 15th, 2007, however, since point levels are subject to change please contact a ThankYou Network Travel Specialist for the most current point pricing.
Well, so much for that ... I was saving up for two Biz class tickets to Hawaii, but this makes the cards next to worthless for that, might as well just use a regular mileage program.
Jun 30, 2007, 8:58 am
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wow wow wow!
well we all knew it was coming sooner or later... too good to last. still some possibilities and the value isn't bad (up to 2 cents each) but a lot of the flexibility which made this program rock is gone now.
well we all knew it was coming sooner or later... too good to last. still some possibilities and the value isn't bad (up to 2 cents each) but a lot of the flexibility which made this program rock is gone now.
Jun 30, 2007, 9:33 am
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With the Thank You point fixed flight point option being devalued it sure makes the BOA Accolade Card look much better. And considering BOA will waive the annul fee and give you the same benfits with $200K assets vs $500K(possible discount and not full waiver) and BOA hard dollar limits being 50% higher for World Points fixed point redemtion. The only thing making Citi Thank You Program even worthwhile is the fact you can earn more than 1 point per dollar in many more places than with BOA card who only gives 2 points per dollar spent on travel expeness. Combine the flight points with the fact you can earn more than 1 point per dollar allows you earn a min of 2 points per dollar anywhere as long as you buy airline tickets.
Jun 30, 2007, 10:18 am
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After my initial disappointment, after giving this a bit more thought, I have actually decided that the TYP program is still a very good deal ... not as great as it used to be, but since I will continue to earn a minimum of 2 TYP per dollar on my PPE card plus I have the mtvU card, it will still work out well for me, especially once you consider we earn miles on the free travel they provide. The only real problem with the new chart is the $400 cap on domestic tickets, that's just way too low.
Jun 30, 2007, 11:14 am
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This morning I booked a flight DTW-SLC for 25000 TY points plus taxes
The rep has heard about point changes but not about dollar limits. In any case they didn't apply today because the NW receipt lists the base fare as $1007.
I also burned most of my remaining TY points for 2 X 60000 point tickets DTW-EZE in January. I suspect that once they start down this slope, TY points will be like airline FF miles and devalue with time.
The rep has heard about point changes but not about dollar limits. In any case they didn't apply today because the NW receipt lists the base fare as $1007.
I also burned most of my remaining TY points for 2 X 60000 point tickets DTW-EZE in January. I suspect that once they start down this slope, TY points will be like airline FF miles and devalue with time.
Jun 30, 2007, 11:15 am
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I will pm a mod and ask them to seperate out the last few posts of this thread into a new one!
Jun 30, 2007, 11:35 am
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It appears to me the biggest problem with the new rules is that you will have to book way in advance whether you are flying coach or business to get within the price limits. Even then, I would think the international business fares at those limits are going to be hard to find.
Jun 30, 2007, 11:53 am
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After my initial disappointment, after giving this a bit more thought, I have actually decided that the TYP program is still a very good deal ... not as great as it used to be, but since I will continue to earn a minimum of 2 TYP per dollar on my PPE card plus I have the mtvU card, it will still work out well for me, especially once you consider we earn miles on the free travel they provide. The only real problem with the new chart is the $400 cap on domestic tickets, that's just way too low.
South America 180,000 Up to $5,400 in value from 160,000 points
Australia and South Pacific 180,000 Up to $5,400 in from 180,000 points
...?? Id like to know how to get a J ticket to OZ for less than 5400USD... ITS IMPOSSIBLE!!!
What a pain the a$$... who's bolting? Ive amassed circa 345K... of TYN. WHAT NOW?????????
writetorich, must say you were right...
Jun 30, 2007, 11:56 am
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"If the ticket you want..." suggests that the cardholder may be able to choose specific flights, subject only to the cap, rather than Expedia choosing the least expensive flights without regard to carrier, routing or times.
Last edited by mia; Jun 30, 2007 at 2:26 pm
Jun 30, 2007, 12:22 pm
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It appears to me the biggest problem with the new rules is that you will have to book way in advance whether you are flying coach or business to get within the price limits. Even then, I would think the international business fares at those limits are going to be hard to find.
Additionally, you pretty much have to fly out of and in to major airports. Good bye to smaller airports! I am not liking the changes at all!
Jun 30, 2007, 1:41 pm
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A TYP agent confirmation
I was just told that they will honor current redemption levels for bookings made BEFORE July 15th even if flights are AFTER July 15th.
But always remember YMMV
But always remember YMMV
Jun 30, 2007, 1:43 pm
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One question is whether the dollar caps refer to total price (including taxes) or just the base fare. Should be the latter hopefully.