tom911

Those who have had their accounts closed for buying/selling codes for $30-50, or submitting applications that had someone else's name on the mailer, just haven't made an appearance on FT. I recall one poster who said he applied for 3 cards in one year, two with apps mailed to him and a third from a public website, but that level of detail is just plain missing on both threads to try and evaluate "who" is impacted by the account locks or terminations. Certainly there's no requirement for anyone on FT to release the methods they used to apply for Citi AA credit cards, but the absence of that information surely makes it difficult to evaluate what criteria AA might have used. If everything is above-board and within the rules, you would think more would be posting how they applied, as the one poster I cited did, but without that level of detail it's hard to take a position one way or the other as the evidence is just not there, in public, as to "why" the accounts were closed.

fttc

AA had years to do something, give warnings, etc, and it did nothing. It then started closing accounts in mass in days without any communications. It certainly counts as "on a whim".

tom911

I'd have to disagree with you that FT is obsolete. There's a whole bunch of activity on airline and hotel forums here, ranging from flight experiences to how to secure airline/hotel upgrades, and those forums are very busy, as they have been since when I started here. Have you had time to explore the forums here outside the credit card forums?

walterj

Couldn't we have a separate thread, for those affected by the shutdown, sympathetic to gamers and churners? Derogatory and name-calling and unsympathetic comments off topic and deleted.

flyer4512

I'm locked but the account where the miles came out of to book the flight is not.

My situation is probably different than most where the miles used to book the flight came from the locked account

IkeEsq

Something here is laughable. So you believe that an airline can sign a contract with a credit card company and then not honor the miles that the credit card provider buys? Umm, I guess that explains a lot.

xyzxyzxyz

I'm glad it's working for you. The only thing I've learned from this thread lately is that my account is locked. Last post on Chase thread was a noobie question 3 days ago. I check the BofA, AS, Barclays, etc threads monthly, just to find out that in fact nothing useful has been posted in that time.

Can you briefly mention a couple of things I might have learned from the threads you mentioned in the last 30 days, bearing in mind that I have 20 years experience playing this game, and also at least scan OMMAT, VFTW and FM daily? My only status is AA Lifetime Gold , Hilton Gold, and IHG Platinum. FT is such a wasteland of threads (1,713,522 Threads, 31,294,710 Posts) that there may be a couple that would be worthwhile but I haven't found any yet. I mostly find noobie questions, and basic facts I've know for 5 or 10 years. And of course new devaluations and shut downs, but the travel blogs have those without slogging thru hundreds of useless posts on dozens of threads a day.

84fiero

That would be an excellent idea - a practical discussion thread. Leave the arguing and theoretical debates to some other thread. It's no wonder so few people are bothering to post and discuss actual data points on here.

tom911

Well as a Hilton Diamond, AA lifetime Platinum (and UA lifetime Gold) and IHG Platinum, with 27 years of airline elite status, I'll be glad to answer that question, but I think that's taking us too far off the topic of this forum and would likely get deleted, so I'm going to pass. If you wanted to start a new thread in one of the general travel forums, perhaps Travel Buzz, I'd be glad to comment there.

You have 80 posts on FT since last month. There must be something here you find interesting to be posting that much.

Visconti

Not sure if you meant this as a rhetorical question, but what I find most valuable in FT are 1) the destination threads, and 2) there are members here whose expertise in their respective programs are, IMHO, other worldly. Perhaps, it's because I'm an amateur, but these guys know more than even the reps for the respective airlines/hotels; where, from a self-serving perspective, I save time by asking them instead of having to search, read blogs, or even call XXX rewards.

xyzxyzxyz

Pretty sure everyone of them was on this thread about lockdowns and shutdowns. And of course it's almost certainly a total waste, other than as a chance to vent my anger and frustration, as AA would hardly go to all of this trouble, and anger and alienate so many people, only to decide: 'never mind, your accounts are all reinstated'.

Often1

People don't even know whether AA has reached out to those churners it doesn't want to fire because they are valuable customers and reached a "settlement" which includes an NDA.

The presumption that there is some statistical value to what you read here is not a smart move.

wyogold

So as to provide something useful other than the incessant bickering, I've updated the wiki with information on how to find our whether you're locked.

PLEASE everyone on this thread, if you've got something useful to contribute (actual information) go ahead and post.

Maybe mods can make a thread about the morality of churning AAdvantage cards / AAdvantage account shutdown and the bickering can go there.

Thanks!

Often1

Why not call AA and ask the direct question rather than inferring?

It is not as though asking will cause one to be locked out. For those about to travel or who are traveling and concerned about whether their tickets remain active, this would seem to be critical.

IamHungry

When the account is suspended. Is it just a visible note on the account so whoever seeing the notes will not touch the account? Or is it like a real account status that only corp security have access to re-instate ?