Originally Posted by garykung
(Post 31239688)
For AMEX, Costco's revenue was accountable for AMEX 10% revenue. AFAICT - AMEX does not have any new co-brand agreements since Costco has left. While AMEX has been able to retain co-brand agreements, it is unlikely that AMEX can make up the 10% gap that quick.
For Citi, Citi's rule of business is to cut when it is too good to be true. Is Citi being too aggressive? Absolutely. |
Originally Posted by jediwho
(Post 31241532)
....until recently, Amex has been all about transaction and annual fees. ....
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Originally Posted by mia
(Post 31241613)
I think that's a lingering misconception. American Express (USA) has issued revolving credit cards for 30 years, and ~20% of their revenue comes from finance charges. All of the co-branded airline, hotel and retailer products are credit cards, as well as their own Blue and Everyday lines.
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I'm not sure we can solely blame the Costco deal for Citi's devaluations, especially considering all the people in the Citi AA threads churning cards every month or two and asking for point matches (among other things).
Originally Posted by mikesyr18
(Post 31237956)
4% on gas, 3% on dining and travel, and 2% on Costco purchases aren't profitable for Citi... And I have a feeling that's all most use the card for in addition to the travel benefits.
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Originally Posted by tmiw
(Post 31242130)
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The gas category is capped, IIRC. 3% for dining/travel is also not out of line considering other competitors' offerings and Visa Signature's interchange levels (note: Costco's food court isn't considered a restaurant by Chase IME; this is likely the same for Citi). Costco could easily be covering the 2% themselves too given the cash back given to Executive members. |
Originally Posted by mikesyr18
(Post 31243390)
Isn't the Costco just a regular Visa?
EDIT: even if one had the non-Signature version, interchange for restaurants is still close to 2%. That last percentage point shouldn't be hard to make up depending on Citi's estimate of how often people spend at restaurants vs. other categories. |
Originally Posted by mikesyr18
(Post 31243390)
Isn't the Costco just a regular Visa?
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Originally Posted by mia
(Post 31241613)
I think that's a lingering misconception. American Express (USA) has issued revolving credit cards for 30 years, and ~20% of their revenue comes from finance charges. All of the co-branded airline, hotel and retailer products are credit cards, as well as their own Blue and Everyday lines.
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