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During application, did you use the same Aadvantage ID or the one that came with the email?

You need 60-65 days from 2nd to last application, denied app still count as an app, so no more than 2 apps in 65 days.

You had Zero chance getting approved on your last application since it violated the 65 day rule

Asked this once but got no answers, has anyone applied and gotten denied for this reason, and then recon-ed within 30 days after when they were not in violation of 2/65 anymore and been successful without having to submit a new application?

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If all those apps are for the same person I'm surprised the 2nd app on 7/12 was approved but your 8/13 app was not even close..............you need to wait 65 days for the 3rd card ( or if this case somehow your 4th card) you waited 32

No.

His data only included personal applications.

Just got a business mailer with 48 months language. Does this mean churning is over on citi business?

Yes to zero chance but I had to try. Here is an additional more interesting data point. I am running the same game for my wife who has as similar but slightly different application pattern. It varies by a day/week or two. I applied for her as a last ditch effort today and her application went pending. Her previous app date was 8/3. She was approved over the phone today. I reapplied with my last voucher and it went pending.

6/15 mailer now no longer works.

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Don't know where this recurring idea has come from. Wikipost says:

Every citi app counts so I have no idea how you pulled off 3 cards in 33 days

Goodnight sweet physical mailer prince.

a rookie question. I got a email with 50k offer from an old email of mine created for a dummy aa account. Application opens by but i enter the last name as the aa count it came back sayin as invalid. tried multiple combination and at point application said i have tried multiple option should revert to paper application.
Anyone know wheres the last name being pulled in the application? is it different than the one on the aa ccount?

last name of the AA account holder

if you forget / want to confirm what you specified previously, you need to log back in to the AA account to find that out.

I haven't used an emailer yet, does the last name on the email need to mach the last name of the person applying ?

afaik no.
the e-mailer link brings u to the webpage, where the invitation code is greyed out
but once proceed to the application page, all fields is editable, no different from the physical mailer app.

When it comes to the count of timeline - several DPs reported upthread very recently, indicate that

- Personal app is affected by biz app. In other words when you count how many applications, you need to count the biz app as well.

- Biz app is not affected by personal app, regardless EIN or SSN as evidenced by the approval despite it was No.3 in the 65 days period - remember, your SSN is also required on the application as well as your own income - the fine prints actually say you are personally responsible for the balance on the card even it is applied under a business. But the biz app does not count the personal app for the purpose of 2 cards every 65 days. Biz card though, has its own count that is, no more than 2 in a 90 days period.

The 8/13 personal app is No.4 app in the past 65 days. Therefore it is an instant denial.

Wikipost seems to be outdated when it comes to the latest DPs on how the Biz card apps behave.

Go back to just a few weeks ago and start reading - there are several DPs indicate that business cards do NOT count personal card app into the 2/65 while the personal cards incl business card app into the counting. It seems biz cards only has the 2/90 schedule as they always are but no longer be incl in the 2/65, despite its existence affects the count for the next personal card app.

yes, the key point is like what Happy said.
> biz app is not affected by personal apps' counts, but personal apps is affected by both personal + biz app counts

i would go further and say that based on my experience, it is the following
> biz app (EIN) is not affected by personal apps' counts, but personal apps is affected by both personal + biz (EIN or SSN) app counts

this is why Shimps DP is the way it is - and it makes perfect sense to me
6/9 AA Personal from mailer approved after call
7/12 AA Personal from mailer approved after call
7/12 AA Biz public link (used EINs) approved after call

if Shimps had applied for Biz before Personal on 7/12, it is very likely he would have been rejected for Personal on that day

in summary, the order in which you submit a personal vs biz app is important, more so when you have a previous app within the past 60-90 days.

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I got one business mailer too with 48 months language. Is that the new normal?

I logged into my account where i got the email and entered the same last name, but still it came back as invalid.

then i have no idea
my own experience is that only recently-created AA accounts are targeted for the NLL emailer.
the old accounts set up long ago are not / will not be

Yes, although folks on reddit are waiting to see if Citi actually denies the bonus as apparently in the past, their IT system wasn't catching the restriction.
I personally wouldn't pull the hard inquiry and do the $5k MSR (for a Business card) just to find out no bonus.
But if you're MS (manufactured spending) then you may want to try and see if it pays off.

I'm guessing it'll be at least a month before we find out (due to how long it takes the points to post).

Citicards often have a closing date of a week or so after you activate the card, so it should be less time before we know if someone can spend the $4K fast on the 10/15 mailers.

Yes, scroll back to post 1709 and read forward.

Are you sure the offer hasn't expired ? I went back to an older emailer and tried to use it and received this message.

Enter the Invitation Number from Your Mail Offer

The information entered does not match our records. Please be sure to enter it exactly as shown on your invitation letter. If you prefer, you can mail in the form attached to your invitation letter.

How soon after closing a personal card can you apply for the next one?

Are you aware that there is a wiki at the top of this thread? If you have questions after reading the wiki, please feel free to post.

I do not see anything in the Wiki that indicates how soon after closing an account can you apply for another prior to replying nor afterward. Thanks for replying!

This is largely governed by the terms of the offer for which you intend to apply. In general, it's best to apply for the next card before closing the current card. What do the the terms say?

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