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blaz Jan 18, 19 8:14 pm

Thanks to everyone posting in this thread - success! On Jan 5th I have sent the following secure message to Citi:


I have signed up for the 50000 miles plus 10000 miles bonus offer after spending $6000 on new Citi AA Platinum Select card. recently read that there is a signup bonus offer available for 75000 miles available.I am wondering if I could be matched / bumped up to the 75K offer?
I have received no direct response to that SM. Today (January 18th), I received an email from Citi titled "Your AAdvantage® miles have been adjusted" with the following contents:


Hi, Blaz. We've added 15,000 Citi® / AAdvantage® Platinum Select® World Elite™ Mastercard® miles to your Citi® / AAdvantage® Platinum Select® World Elite™ Mastercard® account. You'll see this mileage adjustment on your statement within two billing periods.
Before I sent the SM I have already spent the $6000 required for the signup bonus. My first statement hasn't cut yet and this is my first AA card ever.

PresskittJon Jan 19, 19 8:44 am


Originally Posted by blaz (Post 30673103)
Thanks to everyone posting in this thread - success! On Jan 5th I have sent the following secure message to Citi:



I have received no direct response to that SM. Today (January 18th), I received an email from Citi titled "Your AAdvantage® miles have been adjusted" with the following contents:

Before I sent the SM I have already spent the $6000 required for the signup bonus. My first statement hasn't cut yet and this is my first AA card ever.

Good work and welcome to the game.

Going forward take that 2nd $3000 you spent (from $3000-6000) and put it on your next Citi AA card to double your miles from 75k to 150k ;)

RobertHanson Jan 19, 19 12:08 pm


Originally Posted by muji (Post 30672072)
At the top of the page, click on Services

Under that click on Credit Card Services

Now, under Card Management, click on Request A Credit Limit Increase

Then, on the left hand side under Need Help?, click on Request Your Card Agreement

Thanks so much for the step by step directions that even I could follow. I read about that a while back, but couldn't get it to work, so I thought it was no longer workable. This time I did each step correctly, and yes, my SM has now been sent. :)

Ed Janowsky Jan 20, 19 2:10 pm


Originally Posted by bobert24 (Post 30654159)
I got an interesting letter today. Curious if anybody else got one similar. First of all, it's dated 1/15/19 (time travel, obviously). Apparently there was some confusing wording at some point about earning 2X miles with the plat card at restaurants and gas stations. They just wanted to clarify. Simple enough.

Here's the confusing thing: it's addressed to one of my relatives who gets mailers but has never applied for their own card. It's regarding a Plat card for this person (complete with the last 4 digits of the card and everything). No one in my family has ever had a card with those last 4. Those digits also don't match any mailers we've received within the past 3 years, or an AA account, or anything else I can think of.

The obvious first thoughts are: 1. identity theft and 2. Citi's attempt to get rid of confusion led to them creating even more. But it can't be ID theft, because it would be impossible for this person to get a credit card. So all I can think is that Citi's IT messed up somewhere. Just curious if anybody else got a similar letter, and if it was as confusing/impossible as mine.

My fear is that Citi has opened a dummy account for my relative so he no longer receives new mailers. :eek: We'll see, but fortunately I have lots of relatives. :D

SpammersAreScum Jan 20, 19 4:51 pm

DP:

2 cards currently open, newer app was in Oct
Tried a "expires Dec 15" 9-digit mailer and got the "information does not match" response
Tried a "expires Dec 30" 9-digit mailer and got instant approval (50+10, which I will SM to 75)
I intend to close the 2 older ones after latest is received and bumped to 75
I have another Dec 30 which I will try end of Feb;

SeeBuyFly Jan 20, 19 5:45 pm


Originally Posted by Ed Janowsky (Post 30678769)
My fear is that Citi has opened a dummy account for my relative so he no longer receives new mailers. :eek: We'll see, but fortunately I have lots of relatives. :D

My relative who received one of those notices listing a nonexistent account number subsequently received a mailer. Of course there was only about a week in between, and maybe there is a time lag.

bigshooter Jan 20, 19 6:11 pm


Originally Posted by PresskittJon (Post 30674459)
Good work and welcome to the game.

Going forward take that 2nd $3000 you spent (from $3000-6000) and put it on your next Citi AA card to double your miles from 75k to 150k ;)

If you spend $3000 per card instead of $6000 you only get 50k miles plus 15k match.

Not sure why everyone is so against spending the full $6k on these current offers. 4.3 miles per dollar for the extra $3000 is a pretty good earn rate.

NTP9766 Jan 20, 19 6:27 pm

Because ‘pretty good’ doesn’t beat ‘exceptional’ for the same spend and little more effort, IMO. The only way I would consider this is if mailers had dried up.

SeeBuyFly Jan 20, 19 6:31 pm


Originally Posted by bigshooter (Post 30679564)
4.3 miles per dollar for the extra $3000 is a pretty good earn rate.

It is? Compared to 22.7 miles/$ on the first $3000 of your next card?

I suppose it depends on how much spend you can generate without breaking a sweat. Speaking for myself, I sometimes pay 2-3% to make the spend (and even if not paying directly, I give up the 2% cashback I could have gotten charging regular spend on my regular card, which is the same as paying 2%), so I don't do it for small potatoes.

bigshooter Jan 20, 19 6:48 pm

I guess if you have trouble generating $6000 of spend every month then the extra $3000 is not a great deal. I've been doing a card every month and maxing out the offers, but fortunately I can do it for <1%. I look at it as an extra biz class international ticket every year.

SeeBuyFly Jan 20, 19 6:52 pm

Note that the "teams" of many churners consist of more than one person.

bobert24 Jan 20, 19 11:48 pm


Originally Posted by 40orFight (Post 30673065)
Interesting, I believe you are correct. Never knew that it was just amount of time since account opened (regardless of whether subsequently closed). So yes, then there would really seem to be no reason to keep too many of these guys open.

FYI, the source of a lot of this confusion is FAKO scores. FICO uses average age of accounts. FAKO (like credit karma) uses average age of open accounts. The good news is that banks use FICO, not FAKO.

Happy Jan 21, 19 3:36 pm


Originally Posted by bigshooter (Post 30679684)
I guess if you have trouble generating $6000 of spend every month then the extra $3000 is not a great deal. I've been doing a card every month and maxing out the offers, but fortunately I can do it for <1%. I look at it as an extra biz class international ticket every year.

You miss the point. It is always better for an earning rate at 22 miles per $1 than 4.5 miles per $1. Math does not lie. The ability to generate the spend is Irrelevant.

Like other said, until the mailer dries up, the additional spend at a much Inferior rare simply does not make sense when there is a far better option at hand.

As to how many extra international trip(s) each year, that is also not very relevant unless you are solely depending on AA miles. Then it is actually not a happy situation to be in.

Many of folks dont rely on AA miles as the sole source for their travels but almost all of us would treat this as "get it while the getting is good", as well as to get the most bang out of the bucks spend.

For that matter, many of us are getting UR pts at 5 per $1 spend rate outside the sign up bonuses - UR pts definitely are more valuable than AA miles given its transferrability. Also dont forget the poor availability of AA award seats on the TATL routes, unless of course you also do not mind to pay an additional few hundreds to redeem on BA flights. The poor comparison of its TPAC routes was mitigated by CX in the past, but CX is getting much tougher since Q2 of 2018, plus now with the famous CX F mistake fares, one can pretty much write the 2019 CX TPAC premium cabins redemption off.

Even with the regional redemption - try to find a CX HKG-Australia / New Zealand in business, you would need to bet your luck by looking at a week to 10 days before departure for example. you also would not find ANY on QF. So the AA miles are dead in water.

Meanwhile TG has availability almost every day. Even SQ has lots of availability, provided you book thru Aeroplan which of course means AMEX MR pts transfer.

Not to mention to those folks who have to book 330 days out due to their work / family obligations, Aeroplan is 365 days out, without routing restriction plus 2 stopovers 1 destination on a R./T redemption.

Having a lot of UR and MR pts at hand is a good measure. Therefore extra spend could be better used for these purposes.

SeeBuyFly Jan 21, 19 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by Happy (Post 30683031)
You miss the point. It is always better for an earning rate at 22 miles per $1 than 4.5 miles per $1. Math does not lie. The ability to generate the spend is Irrelevant.

Like other said, until the mailer dries up, the additional spend at a much Inferior rare simply does not make sense when there is a far better option at hand.

Huh? Mailer applications are limited to 2 every 65 days. IF the ability to generate spend is unlimited, one does not need to choose between taking the secondary bonus and taking the primary bonus of the next card. One can do both.

VegasGambler Jan 21, 19 3:51 pm


Originally Posted by Happy (Post 30683031)
You miss the point. It is always better for an earning rate at 22 miles per $1 than 4.5 miles per $1. Math does not lie. The ability to generate the spend is Irrelevant.

The ability to generate spend does matter, because you are limited in the amount of cards you can get.

If you can only get 1 card per month but you can generate over $6k of spend per month, it's obviously better to get 81k miles/month than 68k miles/month.

Of course if you could get a 2nd card per month then splitting the spend and getting 136k miles would be even better, but, once you've maxed out the number of cards and put $3k on each, it makes sense to use any remaining spend to get the 2nd part of the bonus.

I can only get 1 per 33 days or so (no spouse, not interested in business cards) so this is my situation


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