Jan 31, 2019, 2:14 pm
Last edit by: mia
Accepting applications as of 1.31.2019 50,000 points for $4,000 spend in 90 days:
https://www.citi.com/credit-cards/credit-card-details/citi.action?ID=citi-prestige-card#ddl-pricinfo
Bonus ThankYou Points are not available if you received a new cardmember bonus for Citi Rewards+℠, Citi ThankYou® Preferred, Citi ThankYou® Premier/Citi Premier℠ or Citi Prestige®, or if you have closed any of these cards, in the past 24 months.
https://www.citi.com/credit-cards/credit-card-details/citi.action?ID=citi-prestige-card#ddl-pricinfo
Bonus ThankYou Points are not available if you received a new cardmember bonus for Citi Rewards+℠, Citi ThankYou® Preferred, Citi ThankYou® Premier/Citi Premier℠ or Citi Prestige®, or if you have closed any of these cards, in the past 24 months.
Citi Prestige USA refresh: 5X Air,Dine; 3X Hotel,Cruise; Hotel 4NF capped 2X/yr; $495
Nov 12, 2018, 11:10 am
#196
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I paid with Samsung Pay in parking garages with no issues using CSR.
Nov 12, 2018, 11:15 am
#197
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Only if you pay with points, and only if you buy into the arbitrary assumption that points have a base value of $0.01 each. However, if the points are worth $0.015 when redeemed for airfare I don't see any meaningful sense in which this is a "discount" when used for a hotel stay.
Nov 12, 2018, 11:19 am
#198
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I tried, it's exactly the same. They couldn't find any special rates like on hotel website, but their rates were pretty close, like withing $10 per night. When hotel was offering $238 on a special rate, they were offering $249.
Nov 12, 2018, 2:47 pm
#200
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Western US
Programs: Costco Executive Member, Amazon Optimus Prime
Posts: 1,251
If I was a betting man, it was probably not Citi's intent to offer 4NF on rock-bottom rates through concierge. It was likely a loophole that the internet took advantage of again, so I get that. However, that with the 4NF cap is another big change to the product. I'm sure the average person doesn't use it more than twice, but I would be a bit agitated if this is what I wanted it for.
Clearly that language about this not being intended for biz use going forward is a way to limit this for the next 10 months, when that kind of customer can still put a world of hurt on Citi.
My assumption is that Citi loses on net 10% of the total booking cost of all those stays. Sure they get a few cases where someone books a longer stay, or maybe crazily books a shorter one and gets nothing, just because they like a full service travel agent who can get them Virtuoso, or Prive perks or what not. And they get the commissions on those to offset the 25% loss on room rate.
But a big diff between losing 10% on 2 stays of 4 nights at $200 per night ($160 overall) vs. the guy with 10+ stays in that same time frame (until Sep 2019), traveling a week each month. Other than moral suasion though I'm not sure how they really push back against biz bookings. Just saying 'no' to corp rates may not be enough. Some firms allow their staff to use the corp rates for hotels/cars on personal time, so that's not a good enough filter (I think) if Cits intent is to stop the reimbursed biz traveler from cleaning them out.
Nov 12, 2018, 5:06 pm
#201
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 6,541
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm interpreting this as saying that we can make bookings through August 2020 as most hotels allow bookings to be made for at least a year out. So basically, as long as we have made a booking through Aspire prior to 9/1/19 we should still receive the 4NF without any use cap. As long as we know our schedules, we'd be able to make bookings a year out and if we didn't need the booking then we could cancel?
Anyone else reading it the same way I am?
Anyone else reading it the same way I am?
does not apply to 2019 stays, as long as the reservation is made prior to Sept 1 2019
does apply to 2020 stays, regardless of booking date
but, I do think you are on to something in that I expect in practice Citi to implement the 2 per year rule via the thankyou.com portal only.
as such, I will be sure to plan & book before Sept 1 2019 all my stays at Hyatt through end of Sept 2020 (Hyatt allows 13 months in advance bookings).
that timing work well for me as my 2020 Prestige annual fee becomes non-refundable mid Nov 2020.
Nov 13, 2018, 12:35 pm
#202
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 378
the most straight forward reading of the terms is that the limit of 2 per year:
does not apply to 2019 stays, as long as the reservation is made prior to Sept 1 2019
does apply to 2020 stays, regardless of booking date
but, I do think you are on to something in that I expect in practice Citi to implement the 2 per year rule via the thankyou.com portal only.
as such, I will be sure to plan & book before Sept 1 2019 all my stays at Hyatt through end of Sept 2020 (Hyatt allows 13 months in advance bookings).
that timing work well for me as my 2020 Prestige annual fee becomes non-refundable mid Nov 2020.
does not apply to 2019 stays, as long as the reservation is made prior to Sept 1 2019
does apply to 2020 stays, regardless of booking date
but, I do think you are on to something in that I expect in practice Citi to implement the 2 per year rule via the thankyou.com portal only.
as such, I will be sure to plan & book before Sept 1 2019 all my stays at Hyatt through end of Sept 2020 (Hyatt allows 13 months in advance bookings).
that timing work well for me as my 2020 Prestige annual fee becomes non-refundable mid Nov 2020.
Concierge, since they won't do new bookings after Sept. 2019, is moot under the new limit.
Now in terms of concierge booking affecting future thankyou.com bookings, it may, but my guess is, it won't.
Nov 13, 2018, 5:49 pm
#203
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Nov 14, 2018, 3:11 pm
#206
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I won't be keeping mine. I could live with the 2 4night restriction IF you could use the concierge, but to book and not get the points or benefits, no thank you! I don't travel that much and I already have the AMEX platinum. I can't justify its cost any more.
Nov 14, 2018, 10:27 pm
#207
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,835
Citi should really reconsider using only online 3rd party bookings for the two 4th night free hotel bookings.
It is bad enough that it is now restricted to 2 bookings but absolutely terrible if we cant use the concierge to get the rates/packages that we want.
Not to mention many hotels and many rates dont show up on the awful website.
The Citi online booking engine often gives higher pricing too when compared to other 3rd party sites.
If Citi , by Sep 2019, still requires us to use the 3rd party online booking, I would be canceling the card...
4th night free is the only reason I am still using the Citi card.
It is bad enough that it is now restricted to 2 bookings but absolutely terrible if we cant use the concierge to get the rates/packages that we want.
Not to mention many hotels and many rates dont show up on the awful website.
The Citi online booking engine often gives higher pricing too when compared to other 3rd party sites.
If Citi , by Sep 2019, still requires us to use the 3rd party online booking, I would be canceling the card...
4th night free is the only reason I am still using the Citi card.
Nov 15, 2018, 8:38 am
#208
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: BOS
Programs: Hyatt Glob/UA Gold
Posts: 612
Citi should really reconsider using only online 3rd party bookings for the two 4th night free hotel bookings.
It is bad enough that it is now restricted to 2 bookings but absolutely terrible if we cant use the concierge to get the rates/packages that we want.
Not to mention many hotels and many rates dont show up on the awful website.
The Citi online booking engine often gives higher pricing too when compared to other 3rd party sites.
If Citi , by Sep 2019, still requires us to use the 3rd party online booking, I would be canceling the card...
4th night free is the only reason I am still using the Citi card.
It is bad enough that it is now restricted to 2 bookings but absolutely terrible if we cant use the concierge to get the rates/packages that we want.
Not to mention many hotels and many rates dont show up on the awful website.
The Citi online booking engine often gives higher pricing too when compared to other 3rd party sites.
If Citi , by Sep 2019, still requires us to use the 3rd party online booking, I would be canceling the card...
4th night free is the only reason I am still using the Citi card.