Jul 25, 2016, 12:23 pm
Last edit by: oopl
7/16: New changes that will take effect on 7/23.
1. The following benefits will be changed effective July 23, 2017:
- Loss of AA Admirals Club Access (Effectively immediately if the account is opened on or after 09/01/2016. See Post 296.
- $0.0125 per each TY points for airfare redemptions at thankyou.com.
- Loss of Complimentary International & Domestic Golf
- 4th Night benefit will be based on the average nightly rate of your complete stay for reservations made on or after July 23, 2017. Taxes will no longer be included within the statement credit.
2. $100 Annual Fee Reduction will be extended to Citi Priority if you are currently a Citigold client and you are impacted by the increase in minimum balance and downgrade.
- 4th night free bookable online at thankyou.com (benefit applied as discount at checkout)
- Cash out TY at 1 cpp
- metal card
- 75,000 TY for $7,500 spend signup bonus
1. The following benefits will be changed effective July 23, 2017:
- Loss of AA Admirals Club Access (Effectively immediately if the account is opened on or after 09/01/2016. See Post 296.
- $0.0125 per each TY points for airfare redemptions at thankyou.com.
- Loss of Complimentary International & Domestic Golf
- 4th Night benefit will be based on the average nightly rate of your complete stay for reservations made on or after July 23, 2017. Taxes will no longer be included within the statement credit.
2. $100 Annual Fee Reduction will be extended to Citi Priority if you are currently a Citigold client and you are impacted by the increase in minimum balance and downgrade.
Citi Prestige benefit and reward changes effective July 23, 2017
Jul 26, 2016, 8:58 pm
#211
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: PHL
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AA Gold, FB Gold, ITA Volare Executive
Posts: 3,294
Exactly.
Most of us who are bemoaning the loss of this or that benefit (I'm in the 1.6x and Admirals Club moaners' camp) are comparing what we will get starting a year from now with what we have been getting.
You, not unreasonably, are comparing what you will be getting with what the card costs.
Three provisos:
Most of us who are bemoaning the loss of this or that benefit (I'm in the 1.6x and Admirals Club moaners' camp) are comparing what we will get starting a year from now with what we have been getting.
You, not unreasonably, are comparing what you will be getting with what the card costs.
Three provisos:
- You will have to have >$250 air charges in each year. You can't buy a $500 ticket in 2016 and collect a second $250 on it in 2017.
- The dating of a year depends on your last 2016 statement date. Say it is the 5th of the month. Then whatever you plan to get reimbursed on in 2016 must POST (not be charged, in the process of ticketing, pending, etc.) on or prior to 5 December 2016. Something that posted 10 December 2016 would count against your 2017 purchases.
- This trick only works the first year. Next July or whenever, if you pay the $450, you can only offset $250 in 2018. With the disappearance of some of the benefits, you will have to decide if Priority Pass for multiple folks, the 4th night free benefit, and 1.2 cents a TYP when applied to airfare will be worth the $200 net.
Jul 27, 2016, 12:18 am
#212
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STL
Programs: AA
Posts: 167
Is the 1.6 to 1.25 happening immediately or is it happening next July? I thought it was immediate but noticed the wiki that says 2017.
With the points to purchase on AA flights going down to 1.25, do you guys think it's more beneficial to bank AA miles rather than TYP? I also have the Barclays Aviator Silver card which I use to bank 10,000 EQM every year by spend but once I meet that threshold, I've been using the Prestige card for the rest of the year. I've been redeeming AA miles for domestic economy tickets (usually 25000 miles round trip). So the way I calculate it, it would still be beneficial to use the TYP portal to book airfares up to $312 (25000 TYP x 0.0125) rather than with 25,000 AA miles (especially since you can earn EQMs when you purchase the ticket). I know this logic is not completely sound because of variables such as 3x, 2x categories for different cards but I think it's pretty close.
Anyone else have other thoughts?
With the points to purchase on AA flights going down to 1.25, do you guys think it's more beneficial to bank AA miles rather than TYP? I also have the Barclays Aviator Silver card which I use to bank 10,000 EQM every year by spend but once I meet that threshold, I've been using the Prestige card for the rest of the year. I've been redeeming AA miles for domestic economy tickets (usually 25000 miles round trip). So the way I calculate it, it would still be beneficial to use the TYP portal to book airfares up to $312 (25000 TYP x 0.0125) rather than with 25,000 AA miles (especially since you can earn EQMs when you purchase the ticket). I know this logic is not completely sound because of variables such as 3x, 2x categories for different cards but I think it's pretty close.
Anyone else have other thoughts?
Jul 27, 2016, 4:35 am
#213
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Programs: US Chairman's Preferred
Posts: 237
Geez, I am the kiss of death. I just obtained this card 10 days ago, because I liked the Admirals Club access, 1.6 AA flights and free golf. I guess I will enjoy it for a year, then look for a better option in July of 2017.
Jul 27, 2016, 5:09 am
#214
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 468
I opened this card at 6 AM the very day the first post about possible changes showed up on Doctor of Credit's site, which I then read about an hour or so after applying. So, I had thought I was the kiss of death.
Jul 27, 2016, 9:19 am
#216
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: LAX, LGB, SNA
Programs: AA EXP OWE, DL DM ST+, AS MVPG, UA, BA, WN CP, Hyatt E, Ritz Plat, HH GM
Posts: 3,185
Jul 27, 2016, 9:58 am
#217
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: NYC
Programs: DL DM, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 84
Count me in the 1.6 and AC club. I'm a DL Diamond flyer but they usually suck for awards other than Intl J, and don't get my brood free into Skyclub, so used this for family vacations. Was perfect. Cheap and available tix and everybody into the AC. PP useless to me and available on other cards. Still not a bad card, but seems likely there will be better ones. At least will have a year before going bye-bye. Can't really complain, Citi is a business and these benefits were over the top.
Would probably be easier to swallow if it didn't come on the heels of the sh** show with Costco card and retention dept. disappearing.
Would probably be easier to swallow if it didn't come on the heels of the sh** show with Costco card and retention dept. disappearing.
Jul 27, 2016, 12:28 pm
#220
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Omaha
Programs: AA Life Plat 4mm, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,459
Exactly.
Most of us who are bemoaning the loss of this or that benefit (I'm in the 1.6x and Admirals Club moaners' camp) are comparing what we will get starting a year from now with what we have been getting.
You, not unreasonably, are comparing what you will be getting with what the card costs.
Three provisos:
Most of us who are bemoaning the loss of this or that benefit (I'm in the 1.6x and Admirals Club moaners' camp) are comparing what we will get starting a year from now with what we have been getting.
You, not unreasonably, are comparing what you will be getting with what the card costs.
Three provisos:
- You will have to have >$250 air charges in each year. You can't buy a $500 ticket in 2016 and collect a second $250 on it in 2017.
- The dating of a year depends on your last 2016 statement date. Say it is the 5th of the month. Then whatever you plan to get reimbursed on in 2016 must POST (not be charged, in the process of ticketing, pending, etc.) on or prior to 5 December 2016. Something that posted 10 December 2016 would count against your 2017 purchases.
- This trick only works the first year. Next July or whenever, if you pay the $450, you can only offset $250 in 2018. With the disappearance of some of the benefits, you will have to decide if Priority Pass for multiple folks, the 4th night free benefit, and 1.2 cents a TYP when applied to airfare will be worth the $200 net.
Jul 27, 2016, 4:41 pm
#221
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Escapee from Chicago
Programs: Amex,Citi
Posts: 48
Losing the Admirals Club access is a big hit for me, most of the airports have no PP lounges, Admirals Club was the only option.
Not sure if I will drop the card in 2017, or just stop flying AA.
Not sure if I will drop the card in 2017, or just stop flying AA.
Jul 27, 2016, 5:35 pm
#222
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SAN
Programs: AA Gold, Bonvoy Gold, DL Gold
Posts: 1,197
I do think AA (and other airlines in similar situations in the past) have been short sighted in things like this, having the lounge access makes me more likely to fly AA, without it, I might as well fly DL where I have access with the Amex Plt or another random airline.
Jul 27, 2016, 6:07 pm
#223
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,706
It is for the first year but not after that. I was anticipating holding the card long term. You can only "double dip" once (unless you get a new card). So after that it is net $200 dollars for PP club access and fourth night "free" in whatever incarnation it takes on next July. That is still a decent deal if you can get a couple of free nights but the value proposition is a lot less than it was.
Jul 27, 2016, 7:46 pm
#224
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: stl
Programs: AA LT Plat/8.1mm now with 1350 miles left in my account and proud of it.. SPG LT Titanium.
Posts: 3,079
I just changed from the Exec card to this card for two reasons: It saves $250 for the AC and you can use these points whereas saver awards are pretty useless. To me this is a defensive move to salvage the Exec card which has no real reason to exist with the old benefits on this card.
Jul 27, 2016, 8:13 pm
#225
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: AUS
Programs: BAEC Gold, AA PPro, Hyatt Globalist, Amex Plat
Posts: 7,029
I just changed from the Exec card to this card for two reasons: It saves $250 for the AC and you can use these points whereas saver awards are pretty useless. To me this is a defensive move to salvage the Exec card which has no real reason to exist with the old benefits on this card.
Regards