Citi AA Platinum, Gold and Business cards (2015)
#3616
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 305
I am pretty sure MadMadso's No.1 at product conversion is already a WE. Note that she is the champ on the succession of getting the 50K bonus, right now at No.5. Given we all know that unless W to WE happens, no way one can get another bonus. Therefore it is a given No.1 has already been a WE when she product converted to something else.
When the No.1 went thru product conversion has no bearing on No.5. I remember she posted that she applied a new W as soon as she is sure the preceding W has converted to WE, even before the physical card arrives. That is how she could reach No.5 within this year given we did not know this loophole working for sure until Mar or Apr this year.
Yes, we have a few posts over the course of the year about closing a WE does not affect getting bonus on a W, provided all the existing cards are now WE before applying the W again.
When the No.1 went thru product conversion has no bearing on No.5. I remember she posted that she applied a new W as soon as she is sure the preceding W has converted to WE, even before the physical card arrives. That is how she could reach No.5 within this year given we did not know this loophole working for sure until Mar or Apr this year.
Yes, we have a few posts over the course of the year about closing a WE does not affect getting bonus on a W, provided all the existing cards are now WE before applying the W again.
#3617
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: IAD
Posts: 166
Just because you got an offer in the mail doesn't mean you will be approved and also doesn't mean you will necessarily get the bonus miles. The banks send those out all the time. Since you closed accts w/in the last 18 months my 'guess' is you will not get the bonus miles. If you can stand a hard pull go ahead and try though. YMMV of course.
#3618
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 747
Good to hear, I'll probably end up closing #2, #3, and #4 as soon as my fifth arrives (hopefully pre Christmas).
#3619
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: Spg Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 1,578
I asked a similar question and received no response other than "read the thread"...
Data point: I cancelled my AA Gold WE card a few weeks earlier this month, then ~3 days later, applied again for the AA Gold W card and got approved (needed to call and hold for 10 minutes....no questions asked), got approved over the phone and was verbally told that I will get the 25K miles after $750 spending. When I got my card 1 week later, there was a letter with a statement to the same effect.
I plan on applying for a PLAT W card in the very near future... (The difference here is that I just met my spending limit and did not get my sign up bonus yet, so I can't cancel.)
Update: Approved for a new PLAT W card, but the operator did not tell me about any perks or sign-up bonus. I'll wait for the card to see if I get the letter...
Data point: I cancelled my AA Gold WE card a few weeks earlier this month, then ~3 days later, applied again for the AA Gold W card and got approved (needed to call and hold for 10 minutes....no questions asked), got approved over the phone and was verbally told that I will get the 25K miles after $750 spending. When I got my card 1 week later, there was a letter with a statement to the same effect.
I plan on applying for a PLAT W card in the very near future... (The difference here is that I just met my spending limit and did not get my sign up bonus yet, so I can't cancel.)
Update: Approved for a new PLAT W card, but the operator did not tell me about any perks or sign-up bonus. I'll wait for the card to see if I get the letter...
You will get the letter separately and IIRC before you get the card .
#3620
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: DFW
Programs: AA 1M
Posts: 31,474
Looked through the past two pages. Just applied for an AA card and the agent reviewing my application said I will get the 50K with 3K spend. I don't remember when I closed my previous AA card, so wondering if I am eligible for the bonus based on what the agent said.
#3621
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 531
The authoritative answer will come in a separate letter. Even if you don't remember the closing date, do you remember anything about the previous card? Was it a Platinum? Was it a Visa or Amex? Was it upgraded to World Elite?
#3622
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,755
The information will be in the Approval Letter - if you are eligible, the 50K will be mentioned in the letter. If you are not, such language will be absent.
#3623
Join Date: Apr 2012
Programs: 25 million points to burn!
Posts: 1,522
When a converted W-WE card is closed/product converted to avoid paying the AF, does that prevent us from getting new bonuses on future W-WE apps? I guess what I'm asking is, do all closures/product conversions reset 18 month clock, and if so, what are y'all doing if you're not offered a good retention bonus? Are you just paying the AF so that you can keep collecting the W-WE conversion bonuses? Thanks for your help.
#3624
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,933
When a converted W-WE card is closed/product converted to avoid paying the AF, does that prevent us from getting new bonuses on future W-WE apps? I guess what I'm asking is, do all closures/product conversions reset 18 month clock, and if so, what are y'all doing if you're not offered a good retention bonus? Are you just paying the AF so that you can keep collecting the W-WE conversion bonuses? Thanks for your help.
There is fuzziness about when exactly Citi considers the cards converted W to WE, for the purpose of not resetting the 18 month clock, so we can say what happens if it definitely hasn't been converted, and we can say what happens if it definitely has been converted, but we can't say anything for sure about times when "maybe" it's been converted already or "maybe" not yet.
#3625
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Melbourne, Florida, USA
Posts: 2,983
How do you tell if your card has been converted from W to WE before receiving the new card in the mail?
#3626
Join Date: May 2014
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,164
Citi® / AAdvantage® Platinum Select® World MasterCard® -xxxx
This is what it reads when it's World Elite:
Citi® / AAdvantage® Platinum Select® -xxxx
#3628
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 714
Dh was just approved for his second Platinum Select WC. Got the first Oct 16th and it was converted to a WE not long after the first statement cut.
#3629
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 557
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but my card was converted to WE a few weeks back, and I've already met the $3k spend for the bonus. I'm going to be spending another $3k on plane tickets in the next few weeks, and figured I might as well take advantage of the offers and grab another Platinum card.
My question is, should I lower my CL immediately on the first card (currently at $11.5k)? If so, how long should I wait to apply for the new card? I intend to purchase the tickets in January, so I don't want to wait too long. I just don't want to apply for the card and receive a limit that wouldn't allow me to put all 3 tickets on the same purchase.
My question is, should I lower my CL immediately on the first card (currently at $11.5k)? If so, how long should I wait to apply for the new card? I intend to purchase the tickets in January, so I don't want to wait too long. I just don't want to apply for the card and receive a limit that wouldn't allow me to put all 3 tickets on the same purchase.
#3630
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MKE
Posts: 614
What is the consensus on how far Citi looks back on hard pulls? 6 months or a year?