Citi AA Platinum, Gold and Business cards.
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#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 40
Citi AA Platinum, Gold and Business cards.
Citi confirmed via SM that my card was converted to WE, any need to wait for the new WE card to come in the mail or i can apply for a W right now?

#2
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 138
People say wait until new WE comes in and activate it to be totally safe...but since Citi says you have WE and no longer W cards in their system (just not entirely sure if it means all Citi systems including application process/checks)...it seems plausible.

#3
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 138
Datapoint regarding waiting to apply before getting WE in mail
As a quick follow-up to my original post:
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.
Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.
Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.
So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.
Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.
Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.
So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).

#4
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: UA GOLD MM,WN CP A+list, HH Gold,MR LT Titanium
Posts: 2,184
As a quick follow-up to my original post:
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.
Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.
Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.
So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.
Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.
Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.
So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).
I am hoping that I didn't jump the gun,but should know shortly when the letter arrives confirming the bonus.

#5
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 40
As a quick follow-up to my original post:
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.
Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.
Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.
So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.
Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.
Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.
So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).

#6
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 40
I did something similar,took a chance and recently applied for #3(using 60K mailer for another family member). Instantly approved with a large CL. Card #2 was converted sometime last week without any notification. I some larger spending upcoming and want to get the 3K spent quickly.
I am hoping that I didn't jump the gun,but should know shortly when the letter arrives confirming the bonus.
I am hoping that I didn't jump the gun,but should know shortly when the letter arrives confirming the bonus.

#7
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 28,936
I was actually planning to apply for the DoubleCash card. I did not know that the AAdvantage card can be downgraded to it. It should be a great combination with my SoftServe for easy cashback. Thanks for the suggestion!
Edit: Just called their CS. I was told that AAdvantage card can only be converted to different Advantage products but not the Citi Double Cash card. Is this correct? I found several posts on reddit saying that this was possible a few months ago. Has anyone had success in with this product conversion recently?
Edit: Just called their CS. I was told that AAdvantage card can only be converted to different Advantage products but not the Citi Double Cash card. Is this correct? I found several posts on reddit saying that this was possible a few months ago. Has anyone had success in with this product conversion recently?
I called this month, and asked if I had any (retention) offers on the account. They said no, and I asked to have the card downgraded to the NAF 2x cash card. He transferred me and they converted it. I have only had the card a few weeks, so I haven't checked my credit report yet, but they called it a conversion. I'd HUCA.
Last edited by Happy; Dec 31, 15 at 2:10 pm

#8
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 28,936
As a quick follow-up to my original post:
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.
Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.
Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.
So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.
Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.
Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.
So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).
I did something similar,took a chance and recently applied for #3(using 60K mailer for another family member). Instantly approved with a large CL. Card #2 was converted sometime last week without any notification. I some larger spending upcoming and want to get the 3K spent quickly.
I am hoping that I didn't jump the gun,but should know shortly when the letter arrives confirming the bonus.
I am hoping that I didn't jump the gun,but should know shortly when the letter arrives confirming the bonus.
Again, getting approval does NOT mean getting the bonus. That is why people try to be more cautious to make sure a win instead of a loss.
Calling does not ensure the eligibility of bonus. The reps can only see which offer you applied thru. The reps do NOT see whether you are eligible for the bonus or not - it is determined by the system. That is WHY the Letter has so much importance. You will only know by the wording on the letter whether you would receive bonus or not.
Personally I would not put any big spend on the card UNTIL I receive the letter with the coveted words. There are enough preceding reports in both Exec thread and HHonors thread MONTHS AGO that getting the card does NOT mean getting the bonus, confirmed by the phone reps nonetheless. If the letter that comes without mentioning the bonus, you will NOT get the bonus. period. In fact that is how the people churning Exec cards find out what is the SURE tell about the eligibility of bonus. And such evidence is again proven by the 75K HHonors card offer a few months ago.
Why after a year of such Citi practice (the Approval Letter) people still are not sure what the mechanism is?

Last edited by Happy; Dec 31, 15 at 4:37 pm

#9
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 26
Just a data point: signed up for my second Plat card around thanksgiving and got the 50k bonus. It was recently upgraded to the WE so i applied and was accepted for my 3rd AA plat. I had to call into citi but the rep did not mention my other Plat cards and told me I would receive the bonus. Received the letter and confirms I will receive the bonus. The loophole is alive and well.

#10
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 138
As a quick follow-up to my original post:
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.
Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.
Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.
So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.
Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.
Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.
So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).

#11
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 228
I logged online and see that a statement was generated on 8/14, for "MEMBERSHIP FEE AUG 14-JUL 15" for $95 which makes me to think I would have cancelled seeing that statement.
So, assuming 8/14 is the 'closing' date, should I wait until 4/16 to open a new one ?
So, assuming 8/14 is the 'closing' date, should I wait until 4/16 to open a new one ?

#13
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: UA GOLD MM,WN CP A+list, HH Gold,MR LT Titanium
Posts: 2,184
If you applied BEFORE the Card No.2 converted to WE, you still have a W at the time you apply the No.3... Unless the 60K invitation does not have the 18 months clause and Citi system does not match recipient of the mailer with the actual applicant...
Again, getting approval does NOT mean getting the bonus. That is why people try to be more cautious to make sure a win instead of a loss.
Calling does not ensure the eligibility of bonus. The reps can only see which offer you applied thru. The reps do NOT see whether you are eligible for the bonus or not - it is determined by the system. That is WHY the Letter has so much importance. You will only know by the wording on the letter whether you would receive bonus or not.
Personally I would not put any big spend on the card UNTIL I receive the letter with the coveted words. There are enough preceding reports in both Exec thread and HHonors thread MONTHS AGO that getting the card does NOT mean getting the bonus, confirmed by the phone reps nonetheless. If the letter that comes without mentioning the bonus, you will NOT get the bonus. period. In fact that is how the people churning Exec cards find out what is the SURE tell about the eligibility of bonus. And such evidence is again proven by the 75K HHonors card offer a few months ago.
Why after a year of such Citi practice (the Approval Letter) people still are not sure what the mechanism is?


#14
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Florida:)
Programs: AA, HH, SPG, UA
Posts: 267
Somewhat confused, but I think I understand.
I currently have:
-AA Amex
-AA Visa Signature
-AA Platinum Select MC World (on the back on top of the MC logo it says World) opened Apr '15
Now, I would l just have to upgrade the MC to WE and I would be able to apply for another card and still be eligible for the bonus?
And if so which one am I eligible for? Can I upgrade through the phone?
Any insight is much appreciated, thanks!!
I currently have:
-AA Amex
-AA Visa Signature
-AA Platinum Select MC World (on the back on top of the MC logo it says World) opened Apr '15
Now, I would l just have to upgrade the MC to WE and I would be able to apply for another card and still be eligible for the bonus?
And if so which one am I eligible for? Can I upgrade through the phone?
Any insight is much appreciated, thanks!!


Thanks MaxVO--Completely forgot about the AA Gold MC. I checked my records and had that card previously and closed it July 2014. Will try for that in a month or so.

#15
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,564
The other thing which is a sure indication (but it typically can be seen only after the letter should have arrived) is after you activate the card and link it on your Citi AA online account, if it shows the progress "clock" towards the bonus ($3000 spend to go, NN days left) when you go to see AA miles detail for the new card.
