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Citi confirmed via SM that my card was converted to WE, any need to wait for the new WE card to come in the mail or i can apply for a W right now?
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Originally Posted by D93
(Post 25939632)
Citi confirmed via SM that my card was converted to WE, any need to wait for the new WE card to come in the mail or i can apply for a W right now?
People say wait until new WE comes in and activate it to be totally safe...but since Citi says you have WE and no longer W cards in their system (just not entirely sure if it means all Citi systems including application process/checks)...it seems plausible. |
Datapoint regarding waiting to apply before getting WE in mail
As a quick follow-up to my original post:
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice. Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated. Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4. So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks). |
Originally Posted by epaairnow
(Post 25941426)
As a quick follow-up to my original post:
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice. Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated. Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4. So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks). I am hoping that I didn't jump the gun,but should know shortly when the letter arrives confirming the bonus. |
Originally Posted by epaairnow
(Post 25941426)
As a quick follow-up to my original post:
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice. Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated. Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4. So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks). |
Originally Posted by freeflyin
(Post 25941871)
I did something similar,took a chance and recently applied for #3(using 60K mailer for another family member). Instantly approved with a large CL. Card #2 was converted sometime last week without any notification. I some larger spending upcoming and want to get the 3K spent quickly.
I am hoping that I didn't jump the gun,but should know shortly when the letter arrives confirming the bonus. |
Originally Posted by codenameXXX
(Post 25938365)
I was actually planning to apply for the DoubleCash card. I did not know that the AAdvantage card can be downgraded to it. It should be a great combination with my SoftServe for easy cashback. Thanks for the suggestion!
Edit: Just called their CS. I was told that AAdvantage card can only be converted to different Advantage products but not the Citi Double Cash card. Is this correct? I found several posts on reddit saying that this was possible a few months ago. Has anyone had success in with this product conversion recently?
Originally Posted by MadMadso
(Post 25938523)
I called this month, and asked if I had any (retention) offers on the account. They said no, and I asked to have the card downgraded to the NAF 2x cash card. He transferred me and they converted it. I have only had the card a few weeks, so I haven't checked my credit report yet, but they called it a conversion. I'd HUCA.
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Originally Posted by epaairnow
(Post 25941426)
As a quick follow-up to my original post:
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice. Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated. Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4. So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).
Originally Posted by freeflyin
(Post 25941871)
I did something similar,took a chance and recently applied for #3(using 60K mailer for another family member). Instantly approved with a large CL. Card #2 was converted sometime last week without any notification. I some larger spending upcoming and want to get the 3K spent quickly.
I am hoping that I didn't jump the gun,but should know shortly when the letter arrives confirming the bonus. Again, getting approval does NOT mean getting the bonus. That is why people try to be more cautious to make sure a win instead of a loss.
Originally Posted by D93
(Post 25941982)
Did you confirm the bonus on card #4?
Originally Posted by D93
(Post 25941993)
PUTPAC and ask a rep to confirm it?
Personally I would not put any big spend on the card UNTIL I receive the letter with the coveted words. There are enough preceding reports in both Exec thread and HHonors thread MONTHS AGO that getting the card does NOT mean getting the bonus, confirmed by the phone reps nonetheless. If the letter that comes without mentioning the bonus, you will NOT get the bonus. period. In fact that is how the people churning Exec cards find out what is the SURE tell about the eligibility of bonus. And such evidence is again proven by the 75K HHonors card offer a few months ago. Why after a year of such Citi practice (the Approval Letter) people still are not sure what the mechanism is? :confused: |
Just a data point: signed up for my second Plat card around thanksgiving and got the 50k bonus. It was recently upgraded to the WE so i applied and was accepted for my 3rd AA plat. I had to call into citi but the rep did not mention my other Plat cards and told me I would receive the bonus. Received the letter and confirms I will receive the bonus. The loophole is alive and well.
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Originally Posted by epaairnow
(Post 25941426)
As a quick follow-up to my original post:
3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice. Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated. Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4. So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks). |
I logged online and see that a statement was generated on 8/14, for "MEMBERSHIP FEE AUG 14-JUL 15" for $95 which makes me to think I would have cancelled seeing that statement.
So, assuming 8/14 is the 'closing' date, should I wait until 4/16 to open a new one ?
Originally Posted by ftbargain
(Post 25935411)
Is there any way to find out when did you cancel the previous AA card on citi.com ?
My last app was approved on 8/13 but I don't remember when did I close it so that I'm eligible for another one after the 18-month after closed rule ? |
Originally Posted by epaairnow
(Post 25942931)
Quick update, new WE card in mail today. Did not confirm bonus as automatic approval but havent confirmed bonus yet and all letters have had 50k mention. Willl report if contrary this time
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Originally Posted by Happy
(Post 25942719)
If you applied BEFORE the Card No.2 converted to WE, you still have a W at the time you apply the No.3... Unless the 60K invitation does not have the 18 months clause and Citi system does not match recipient of the mailer with the actual applicant... Again, getting approval does NOT mean getting the bonus. That is why people try to be more cautious to make sure a win instead of a loss. Calling does not ensure the eligibility of bonus. The reps can only see which offer you applied thru. The reps do NOT see whether you are eligible for the bonus or not - it is determined by the system. That is WHY the Letter has so much importance. You will only know by the wording on the letter whether you would receive bonus or not. Personally I would not put any big spend on the card UNTIL I receive the letter with the coveted words. There are enough preceding reports in both Exec thread and HHonors thread MONTHS AGO that getting the card does NOT mean getting the bonus, confirmed by the phone reps nonetheless. If the letter that comes without mentioning the bonus, you will NOT get the bonus. period. In fact that is how the people churning Exec cards find out what is the SURE tell about the eligibility of bonus. And such evidence is again proven by the 75K HHonors card offer a few months ago. Why after a year of such Citi practice (the Approval Letter) people still are not sure what the mechanism is? :confused: |
Originally Posted by express3
(Post 25933959)
Somewhat confused, but I think I understand.
I currently have: -AA Amex -AA Visa Signature -AA Platinum Select MC World (on the back on top of the MC logo it says World) opened Apr '15 Now, I would l just have to upgrade the MC to WE and I would be able to apply for another card and still be eligible for the bonus? And if so which one am I eligible for? Can I upgrade through the phone? Any insight is much appreciated, thanks!!
Originally Posted by PETERPNYC
(Post 25935802)
You can not upgrade the W to WE . only Citi can do that . Read the Wiki .
Do Not Call please .
Originally Posted by MaxVO
(Post 25937754)
You can also apply for the AA Gold MC and get a bonus, if you haven't closed another AA Gold in the last 18 months.
Thanks MaxVO--Completely forgot about the AA Gold MC. I checked my records and had that card previously and closed it July 2014. Will try for that in a month or so. |
Originally Posted by Happy
(Post 25943321)
You do not need to confirm bonus - the letter is the only thing that matters.
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Just applied for 2nd card, at least 1 mos since 1st was converted
Congratulations, you've been approved! We're delighted to let you know you've been approved for the CitiŽ / AAdvantageŽ Gold card, with a credit limit of $16,500. This was the email I received stated it differently from the approval page stating AA Gold World Mastercard Wonder why they are referring to the cards differently? ETA: checked previous email for first card and paperwork received and it was stated differently there too ( email and paper statement name of card was worded differently) |
Originally Posted by kannon99
(Post 25834371)
Is it possible to be issued a World Elite right off the bat? I applied for my last Platinum in 3/15 and as far I can tell it was always a WE. A online chat citi confirms this. So I would think I could sit get around the loop hole as the system shows me as having a WE and a new card would be a W.
Applied a few days and after a recon was approved. Offer letter in mail states 50,000 sign up. Data points: 3/15 Citi AA Plat (unknown W to WE convert time) 7/15 Citi AA Biz 8/15 Amex Spg Biz 8/15 Amex Plat 10/15 Citi Prestige |
Originally Posted by Pochama
(Post 25915020)
Another datapoint for W->WE.
Approved on Nov 18th using link 4c. I just got a SM that I have a new card on the way. I'll update when I get it. |
1st card approved Nov 12th.
Received today World Elite with Congratulatory flyer. Had noticed early December that card name had changed on account. |
Anyone know of any data-points for the following scenario:
Applied for AA Plat 50k Nov 2014. Converted to WE January 2015 Applied for AA Plat 50k #2 September 2015. Converted to WE late December 2015. Card #1 has its annual fee post in late November and I called the retention line and was offered 5,000 miles with no spend. I took the offer. I'm wondering now if I canceled card #1 via secure message if it would disqualify me from applying for AA Plat 50k card #3 in May. (I want to wait for a few inquires to fall off) As far as I understand it canceling a WE conversion wont reset the 18 month counter for the same reason that the conversion itself resets it. The card isn't considered the same product. However if anyone knows of someone who successfully did this please let me know. I suppose I could keep card #1 open but the 5,000 points isn't really enough to justify the annual fee. |
Originally Posted by whoknew89
(Post 25950754)
Anyone know of any data-points for the following scenario:
Applied for AA Plat 50k Nov 2014. Converted to WE January 2015 Applied for AA Plat 50k #2 September 2015. Converted to WE late December 2015. Card #1 has its annual fee post in late November and I called the retention line and was offered 5,000 miles with no spend. I took the offer. I'm wondering now if I canceled card #1 via secure message if it would disqualify me from applying for AA Plat 50k card #3 in May. (I want to wait for a few inquires to fall off) As far as I understand it canceling a WE conversion wont reset the 18 month counter for the same reason that the conversion itself resets it. The card isn't considered the same product. However if anyone knows of someone who successfully did this please let me know. I suppose I could keep card #1 open but the 5,000 points isn't really enough to justify the annual fee. |
Statement closed on the 24th, it says points reported to AA, but nothing yet in my account. any ideas?
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I have been noticing that there are some reports recently for being approved for a 2nd or 3rd platinum/gold cards, while sharing these data points might be useful for others to follow your footsteps; to have a complete data point you want to confirm that you actually will get the bonus by either receiving the approval letter or by receiving the card/confirm online that the offer is on your card.Just being approved does not automatically means you will get the bonus with these cards.
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Originally Posted by James Ben
(Post 25951602)
Statement closed on the 24th, it says points reported to AA, but nothing yet in my account. any ideas?
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
(Post 25953584)
That's discussed in a separate thread which I see you already found:
Yes thanks |
Here's a data point for anyone who might need it. I helped my mother sign up for a Citi Platinum and Citi Exec card on June 2014. The Exec card was canceled March 2015. I just helped her try to sign up for another Citi Platinum. Got a declined message. Called up reconsideration for her and the Rep said she could have the card but since she canceled the Exec card in March 2015 she's not eligible for the bonus since she can only receive a bonus every 18 months. It didn't sound right since the Platinum and Exec are different products, but the Rep's computer told her otherwise.
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Visa closed, can I get bonus on MasterCard
I closed my AAdvantage Visa card recently. I've never had a Platinum Select MasterCard. Can I get signon bonus for MC? Or do I have to wait 18 months since my Visa closure?
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Originally Posted by timzheng
(Post 25954792)
I closed my AAdvantage Visa card recently. I've never had a Platinum Select MasterCard. Can I get signon bonus for MC? Or do I have to wait 18 months since my Visa closure?
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Datapoint: approved for AA Plat Visa on 11/10/2015. Received World card a week or two later. Today, 01/03/2015, I received my WE upgrade. Just activated it.
I did not ask about W->WE conversion or anything. The only SM I asked was to get the 10K bonus points to match the 60K offer (which they did without an offer code). Same exact CC #, exp date, and CVV number. Now have a holographic stripe and WE logo instead of colored World MC logo. Limit is $11,000 (only spent $10,500 for Citi Savings account funding). Did not get any notification online, but I did have an alert in my mobile app. Can't recall when exactly it showed up. Am I good to go to apply for another Citi AA Plat personal card and be eligible for the 50K bonus (and if I'm feeling lucky and get approved, ask for the 60K match)? |
Also received the WE card that was converted on Dec 22nd.
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You didn't mention whether the card was converted from W to WE or not.
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Originally Posted by pritomd
(Post 25954914)
Datapoint: approved for AA Plat Visa on 11/10/2015. Received World card a week or two later. Today, 01/03/2015, I received my WE upgrade. Just activated it.
I did not ask about W->WE conversion or anything. The only SM I asked was to get the 10K bonus points to match the 60K offer (which they did without an offer code). Same exact CC #, exp date, and CVV number. Now have a holographic stripe and WE logo instead of colored World MC logo. Limit is $11,000 (only spent $10,500 for Citi Savings account funding). Did not get any notification online, but I did have an alert in my mobile app. Can't recall when exactly it showed up. Am I good to go to apply for another Citi AA Plat personal card and be eligible for the 50K bonus (and if I'm feeling lucky and get approved, ask for the 60K match)? |
Originally Posted by timzheng
(Post 25954792)
I closed my AAdvantage Visa card recently. I've never had a Platinum Select MasterCard. Can I get signon bonus for MC? Or do I have to wait 18 months since my Visa closure?
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Originally Posted by changger1
(Post 25954618)
Here's a data point for anyone who might need it. I helped my mother sign up for a Citi Platinum and Citi Exec card on June 2014. The Exec card was canceled March 2015. I just helped her try to sign up for another Citi Platinum. Got a declined message. Called up reconsideration for her and the Rep said she could have the card but since she canceled the Exec card in March 2015 she's not eligible for the bonus since she can only receive a bonus every 18 months. It didn't sound right since the Platinum and Exec are different products, but the Rep's computer told her otherwise.
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Originally Posted by boris10475
(Post 25956159)
Citi CSRs often do not know what they are talking about. If your mother did not open or close any Platinum card in the last 18 months she should be eligible for a bonus. The reason she got declined for a card has nothing to do with her eligibility for a bonus anyways.
Just to follow up, she actually didn't get declined for the card. The reconsideration rep said she would approve her application for the card, but the new card would have no bonus. |
Originally Posted by changger1
(Post 25956533)
Just to follow up, she actually didn't get declined for the card. The reconsideration rep said she would approve her application for the card, but the new card would have no bonus.
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I just received a WE MC today for the W I received in November, so I guess I'm going to apply again. I still have an unconverted W MC, but that was also the case in November, so I don't think it will matter.
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Datapoint:
10/15: Opened new personal Platinum W MC using link 4c (50k/$3k) 11/15: Received a targeted 60k/$3k offer in the mail, asked Citi to match it and they did 11/15: Card was converted to WE 12/15: Opened new personal Platinum W MC using link 4c (50k/$3k) 12/15: SM'd Citi to match the 60k/$3k offer, and they did Next time I'll try not to throw out my targeted offers, because I did so just days before my first card was converted to WE. |
Just burned a chunk of AA miles arranging a vacation...time to hop back on the AA train while it lasts....
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Originally Posted by changger1
(Post 25954618)
Here's a data point for anyone who might need it. I helped my mother sign up for a Citi Platinum and Citi Exec card on June 2014. The Exec card was canceled March 2015. I just helped her try to sign up for another Citi Platinum. Got a declined message. Called up reconsideration for her and the Rep said she could have the card but since she canceled the Exec card in March 2015 she's not eligible for the bonus since she can only receive a bonus every 18 months. It didn't sound right since the Platinum and Exec are different products, but the Rep's computer told her otherwise.
Originally Posted by changger1
(Post 25956533)
Just to follow up, she actually didn't get declined for the card. The reconsideration rep said she would approve her application for the card, but the new card would have no bonus.
So please wait for the letter and tell us what it says about a bonus when you get it. There is no indication earlier than the letter which reliably tells you whether you will get a bonus or not. Btw, if there's any risk of 18 months in your scenario at all, it would be from the open in June 2014 of the Plat, not from close in March 2015 of the Exec. Reason: Citi is known to count wrong. Just because it's 19 months now per calendar months since June 2014 doesn't mean that's how Citi is counting. |
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