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D93 Dec 31, 15 4:11 am

Citi AA Platinum, Gold and Business cards.
 
Citi confirmed via SM that my card was converted to WE, any need to wait for the new WE card to come in the mail or i can apply for a W right now?

epaairnow Dec 31, 15 7:07 am


Originally Posted by D93 (Post 25939632)
Citi confirmed via SM that my card was converted to WE, any need to wait for the new WE card to come in the mail or i can apply for a W right now?

I am exactly in the same situation. Citi said via SM that card will be mailed soon. I am thinking of pulling the trigger to try because I have some big spend items for mid-January coming up...and with new cards taking 7-10 days I am getting antsy.

People say wait until new WE comes in and activate it to be totally safe...but since Citi says you have WE and no longer W cards in their system (just not entirely sure if it means all Citi systems including application process/checks)...it seems plausible.

epaairnow Dec 31, 15 9:36 am

Datapoint regarding waiting to apply before getting WE in mail
 
As a quick follow-up to my original post:

3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.

Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.

Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.

So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).

freeflyin Dec 31, 15 11:00 am


Originally Posted by epaairnow (Post 25941426)
As a quick follow-up to my original post:

3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.

Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.

Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.

So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).

I did something similar,took a chance and recently applied for #3(using 60K mailer for another family member). Instantly approved with a large CL. Card #2 was converted sometime last week without any notification. I some larger spending upcoming and want to get the 3K spent quickly.

I am hoping that I didn't jump the gun,but should know shortly when the letter arrives confirming the bonus.

D93 Dec 31, 15 11:20 am


Originally Posted by epaairnow (Post 25941426)
As a quick follow-up to my original post:

3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.

Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.

Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.

So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).

Did you confirm the bonus on card #4?

D93 Dec 31, 15 11:22 am


Originally Posted by freeflyin (Post 25941871)
I did something similar,took a chance and recently applied for #3(using 60K mailer for another family member). Instantly approved with a large CL. Card #2 was converted sometime last week without any notification. I some larger spending upcoming and want to get the 3K spent quickly.

I am hoping that I didn't jump the gun,but should know shortly when the letter arrives confirming the bonus.

PUTPAC and ask a rep to confirm it?

Happy Dec 31, 15 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by codenameXXX (Post 25938365)
I was actually planning to apply for the DoubleCash card. I did not know that the AAdvantage card can be downgraded to it. It should be a great combination with my SoftServe for easy cashback. Thanks for the suggestion!

Edit: Just called their CS. I was told that AAdvantage card can only be converted to different Advantage products but not the Citi Double Cash card. Is this correct? I found several posts on reddit saying that this was possible a few months ago. Has anyone had success in with this product conversion recently?

Your AA card needs to be at least one year old to be eligible to convert to Non-AA cards. Is it one year old yet?


Originally Posted by MadMadso (Post 25938523)
I called this month, and asked if I had any (retention) offers on the account. They said no, and I asked to have the card downgraded to the NAF 2x cash card. He transferred me and they converted it. I have only had the card a few weeks, so I haven't checked my credit report yet, but they called it a conversion. I'd HUCA.

Your card was 12 months old when you asked for conversion. AFAIK cards below 12 months old are not eligible for conversion because of C.A.R.D. Act prevents banks to change T&Cs on existing cards in its first year, despite in this case it is from a fee card (first year fee waived notwithstanding) to a no fee card. The reward structure changes too, and that is prohibited by the Act. It does not matter the change is requested by the customer, banks just dont want to get into trouble with the government regulation bodies when they are already being fined by compliance failures.

Happy Dec 31, 15 2:01 pm


Originally Posted by epaairnow (Post 25941426)
As a quick follow-up to my original post:

3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.

Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.

Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.

So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).

Getting approval does NOT mean you will get the bonus! The proof is in the letter that comes afterward. Though if things remain unchanged, then your No.4 is after all cards converted to WE, the No.4 should get the bonus.


Originally Posted by freeflyin (Post 25941871)
I did something similar,took a chance and recently applied for #3(using 60K mailer for another family member). Instantly approved with a large CL. Card #2 was converted sometime last week without any notification. I some larger spending upcoming and want to get the 3K spent quickly.

I am hoping that I didn't jump the gun,but should know shortly when the letter arrives confirming the bonus.

If you applied BEFORE the Card No.2 converted to WE, you still have a W at the time you apply the No.3... Unless the 60K invitation does not have the 18 months clause and Citi system does not match recipient of the mailer with the actual applicant...

Again, getting approval does NOT mean getting the bonus. That is why people try to be more cautious to make sure a win instead of a loss.


Originally Posted by D93 (Post 25941982)
Did you confirm the bonus on card #4?


Originally Posted by D93 (Post 25941993)
PUTPAC and ask a rep to confirm it?

Calling does not ensure the eligibility of bonus. The reps can only see which offer you applied thru. The reps do NOT see whether you are eligible for the bonus or not - it is determined by the system. That is WHY the Letter has so much importance. You will only know by the wording on the letter whether you would receive bonus or not.

Personally I would not put any big spend on the card UNTIL I receive the letter with the coveted words. There are enough preceding reports in both Exec thread and HHonors thread MONTHS AGO that getting the card does NOT mean getting the bonus, confirmed by the phone reps nonetheless. If the letter that comes without mentioning the bonus, you will NOT get the bonus. period. In fact that is how the people churning Exec cards find out what is the SURE tell about the eligibility of bonus. And such evidence is again proven by the 75K HHonors card offer a few months ago.

Why after a year of such Citi practice (the Approval Letter) people still are not sure what the mechanism is? :confused:

waggles Dec 31, 15 2:48 pm

Just a data point: signed up for my second Plat card around thanksgiving and got the 50k bonus. It was recently upgraded to the WE so i applied and was accepted for my 3rd AA plat. I had to call into citi but the rep did not mention my other Plat cards and told me I would receive the bonus. Received the letter and confirms I will receive the bonus. The loophole is alive and well.

epaairnow Dec 31, 15 2:52 pm


Originally Posted by epaairnow (Post 25941426)
As a quick follow-up to my original post:

3rd World card converted to WE on 12-22 (did secure message to Citi on 12-30-15 - confirmed WE and card will be mailed soon). I noticed name change in myciti.com around Christmas time with no email or notice.

Datapoint - Citi system shows all WEs for me, yet new World Elite card not mailed yet...and thus not activated.

Applied today using link 14 (link 13 did not work - 404--oops notice on citi.com) and instantly approved for new World card #4.

So it looks like you can start cycle again without receiving physical new WE card since it can take some time for Citi to actually mail it after converting you (weeks).

Quick update, new WE card in mail today. Did not confirm bonus as automatic approval but havent confirmed bonus yet and all letters have had 50k mention. Willl report if contrary this time

ftbargain Dec 31, 15 3:10 pm

I logged online and see that a statement was generated on 8/14, for "MEMBERSHIP FEE AUG 14-JUL 15" for $95 which makes me to think I would have cancelled seeing that statement.

So, assuming 8/14 is the 'closing' date, should I wait until 4/16 to open a new one ?


Originally Posted by ftbargain (Post 25935411)
Is there any way to find out when did you cancel the previous AA card on citi.com ?
My last app was approved on 8/13 but I don't remember when did I close it so that I'm eligible for another one after the 18-month after closed rule ?


Happy Dec 31, 15 4:39 pm


Originally Posted by epaairnow (Post 25942931)
Quick update, new WE card in mail today. Did not confirm bonus as automatic approval but havent confirmed bonus yet and all letters have had 50k mention. Willl report if contrary this time

You do not need to confirm bonus - the letter is the only thing that matters.

freeflyin Dec 31, 15 5:56 pm


Originally Posted by Happy (Post 25942719)



If you applied BEFORE the Card No.2 converted to WE, you still have a W at the time you apply the No.3... Unless the 60K invitation does not have the 18 months clause and Citi system does not match recipient of the mailer with the actual applicant...

Again, getting approval does NOT mean getting the bonus. That is why people try to be more cautious to make sure a win instead of a loss.





Calling does not ensure the eligibility of bonus. The reps can only see which offer you applied thru. The reps do NOT see whether you are eligible for the bonus or not - it is determined by the system. That is WHY the Letter has so much importance. You will only know by the wording on the letter whether you would receive bonus or not.

Personally I would not put any big spend on the card UNTIL I receive the letter with the coveted words. There are enough preceding reports in both Exec thread and HHonors thread MONTHS AGO that getting the card does NOT mean getting the bonus, confirmed by the phone reps nonetheless. If the letter that comes without mentioning the bonus, you will NOT get the bonus. period. In fact that is how the people churning Exec cards find out what is the SURE tell about the eligibility of bonus. And such evidence is again proven by the 75K HHonors card offer a few months ago.

Why after a year of such Citi practice (the Approval Letter) people still are not sure what the mechanism is? :confused:

In my case, I did not apply until #2 already converted,but I don't have the WE card yet. The W card is showing again in my offers online and in the past, my letter has always come confirming the bonus before the new W arrives, so if this remains the same, I will know for sure if the bonus will apply before #3 arrives and spending begins.

express3 Jan 1, 16 9:28 pm


Originally Posted by express3 (Post 25933959)
Somewhat confused, but I think I understand.

I currently have:
-AA Amex
-AA Visa Signature
-AA Platinum Select MC World (on the back on top of the MC logo it says World) opened Apr '15

Now, I would l just have to upgrade the MC to WE and I would be able to apply for another card and still be eligible for the bonus?

And if so which one am I eligible for? Can I upgrade through the phone?

Any insight is much appreciated, thanks!!


Originally Posted by PETERPNYC (Post 25935802)
You can not upgrade the W to WE . only Citi can do that . Read the Wiki .
Do Not Call please .

No worries, I wouldn't call just like that. I wasn't sure how people were being converted to the WE because I have had my card (AA Platinum Select MC World) since April 2015 and mine has not been converted:confused:. Guess I can't have fun in this party :(


Originally Posted by MaxVO (Post 25937754)
You can also apply for the AA Gold MC and get a bonus, if you haven't closed another AA Gold in the last 18 months.


Thanks MaxVO--Completely forgot about the AA Gold MC. I checked my records and had that card previously and closed it July 2014. Will try for that in a month or so.

sdsearch Jan 1, 16 9:31 pm


Originally Posted by Happy (Post 25943321)
You do not need to confirm bonus - the letter is the only thing that matters.

The other thing which is a sure indication (but it typically can be seen only after the letter should have arrived) is after you activate the card and link it on your Citi AA online account, if it shows the progress "clock" towards the bonus ($3000 spend to go, NN days left) when you go to see AA miles detail for the new card.


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