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For questions NOT related to the application process - such as experiences using benefits - refer to the AA forum thread on this card: AA Citibank Executive / AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard (Master Thread)

Recommended Application Procedure:
Clear cache and cookies prior to applying or use an incognito or private browsing session to apply. Opening multiple different apps in different windows or tabs or failing to clear cookies/cache has resulted in people receiving a lesser offer for some Citi cards. We do not know, and Citi has not indicated, how long these offers will last. Citi has left other offers alive for over a year beyond the 'apply by' date in the past. These links could be here all year or gone tomorrow. If the application loads, it is good, based on past Citi applications that survived past the landing page expiration, regardless of any posted or advertised 'apply by' date.

MOST CURRENT LINKS:



CURRENT PUBLIC OFFER: 50k

"American Airlines AAdvantage bonus miles are not available if you have had a Citi Executive / AAdvantage World EliteTM MasterCard opened or closed in the past 18 months"

Link A50

Link B50

Link C50

Link D50

Link E50

Link F50

Link G50

PREVIOUS OFFERS


Previous 75k links (NOT WORKING 11/18)


Link A75, Link B75, Link C75, Link D75, Link E75, Link F75, Link G75, Link H75, Link I75, Link J75, Link K75


Landing Page
Application Page (Both pages include the 18 month language).

http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...-executive.jsp

Option 1: Zombie Link with no Landing Page, Several FTers have been using this link with Success. Application Link 50k with 5k spending

Option 2: [note: may be dead or dying as of 3/16/15- check most recent posts in thread] Current Zombie link Application Link 50K for 5K spending, no statement credit.

Option 3: This Link was obtained off of aa.com at one point Bonus is unknown Application Link.

Option 4: Citi Website Offer; Application has the following warning
"American Airlines AAdvantage bonus miles are not available if you have had a Citi Executive / AAdvantage World EliteTM MasterCard opened or closed in the past 18 months" There are indeed several reports of people who have already had an EXEC card not receiving any signup bonus miles. And no reports of anyone who has had an EXEC before actually getting any signup bonus at all. Do NOT use this link if you have ever had an EXEC card.
Landing page for New 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit and Application Link
The following are identical to Option 4, but the landing pages were working at the time they were entered into this wiki. All landing pages and application pages have the same content but (slightly) different URLs:
Option 4a: Landing page and Application page
Option 4b: Landing page and Application page
Option 4c: Landing page and Application page

Option 5: Does not have the 18-month language of Option 4, and the application form has the older format (like Option 2 and unlike Option 4).
Landing page for 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit and Application Link


Option 6: Artificially generated links; all lead to old-format application pages just like Options 1/2/5, without the "18 months" language found in Option 4 application pages. No landing page ever existed.
There are reports in the thread that applications using 6a/6d were approved but the UPS letter did not mention a bonus, and Citi telephone agents said there would be no bonus. Other reports say that the bonus was stated in the letter.
6a: Application page
6b: Application page
6c: Application page

6d: Application page

Option 7:The following link is very similar to Options 1/2/5 and has been found to work without an 18-month restriction. Since it does not originate from a landing page, there is no web page showing the bonus offer. However, the UPS letter confirms a 50K-mile bonus after $5K spend, and many people have reported that the bonuses have appeared in their AAdvantage accounts. Application Link Link to application page began dying on 6/1/2015. Now completely dead.



EXPEDITED SHIPPING
While reconsideration/application reps do not seem to be aware of this, these cards are expedited and usually arrive 1-2 days after approval.The CSR will not take a request to expedite the card.

Who is eligible for this card? Anyone as long as you can be approved for the minimum $5K credit line, subject to the standard Citi rules of 1 Citi app or card of any kind per 8 days and 2 Citi cards or apps of any kind per 65 days. It is always advisable to wait 65 days from any type of Citi denial before applying for another Citi card. Many have reported getting approved for this card in spite of having several open AA cards over the past year as well as having previously had this card.

Not sure about the 8 and 65 day rules? If your most recent application for any Citi card is less than click here - 8 days ago, you need to wait. Also, if your previous (second-to-last) Citi application is less than click here - 65 days ago, you need to wait. These are not rules published or known by Citi CSRs but rather based on thousands of Citi card applications and datapoints across several threads.

Credit inquiry history
Some have reported more approval success with no more than 5 or 6 Experian inquiries within the last 6 months. And Citi credit reviewers have told some applicants that too many inquiries is a problem, even with an excellent credit score. Multiple inquiries from other banks seem to be especially problematic, because Citi can't see their current balances as easily. Other applicants have been approved with more inquiries, especially with a long term Citi tenure and a favorable income to debt ratio.

This card can be churned. Recent datapoints concerning multiple Executive cards include posts 917, 1059 and starting at 1365. For in-depth datapoints and advice on churning Citi cards, read and study the extensive wiki posts in the HH thread and the AA Plat/gold thread. Click the plus on the right hand side of the wiki if you do not see the wiki text. Datapoints for bonus points posting on multiple cards include post 2579.


Getting around the $450 annual fee: Many people have been able to meet the spending requirement before the first statement posts and then cancel and have the fee refunded after the miles post. Details and datapoints include starting at post 74. T&C state that the card must be cancelled within 30 days of the fee posting to get it refunded; in practice you have 37 days. Potential problems with this plans include a very short (1 week or less) first "month" as well as delays in miles posting which have been reported by several FTers.

Once you cancel the card (within the 37 day window of AF posting) the refund will post on the account between 1-3 business days. Leave a $450 balance and it will be zeroed out.

Retention Bonus Offers: User have been offered the following retention bonus offers when calling to cancel the card:

- 5,000 points + $100 credit with $1,500 spend per month for 3 months 5333
- 2 additional club member passes 6862
- 1,000 bonus miles each month for 16 month, min $1k spend/month 6862
- [3/15] 15,000 bonus miles for spending $5k
- $450 Credit for spending $5k for next three statements

Already a member? If you already purchased an AC membership (for example, using the credit from Amex Plat) and apply and are approved for this card, AA will refund you the pro-rated AF from any time left on your membership.

When do miles post? Usually two days after your statement closing date. In some cases your statement will show the correct miles earned but will show 0 miles reported to AA. In this case see this thread.


Helpful points from post #3794 and others, especially for those new to Citi:
1) Citi CSRs are clueless, so disregard everything they say that seems to contradict anything you have read on F/T. And take everything else with a big grain of salt. I was told 3 times VERY CLEARLY "You will not got your annual fee refunded" while I was cancelling, but I did get it.

2a) With Citi, if you are approved for a card, and meet the minimum spend requirement, you will get the bonus listed for the offer you applied for. Every time ! Unlike Chase or AMEX, who will send you a card, wait for you to pay the fee and spend, and then say "sorry, you don't qualify for a bonus". If Citi doesn't intend to give you the bonus, they will just deny your app. They won't even do a pull, they will just instantly deny your app. If they send you the card, and you meet the spend on time, you will get the bonus. My attorney insists I add "that could change tomorrow", but from the Big Bang thru today, that has always been true.Recently, Citi has been approving Exec cards but not giving the bonus, e.g. when there has been less than 18 months from the previous application. Therefore, (a) use an application link that does not list the 18-month wait requirement; (b) check the letter you get via UPS to see if it explicitly promises the bonus; if it's in the letter, it will be honored (c) if in doubt, call and ask.

2b) Another helpful post discussing timeframe for meeting min spend: 6279

3) Any expectation that Citi will do things that make sense is just plain silly. They won't.

Citibank Contacts/Resources
  • Application status: https://www.accountonline.com/cards/...?screenID=3187
  • (800) 695-5171 Personal Application Status and Reconsideration Line with live rep
  • (800) 763-9795 General Personal Application Inquiries with live rep
  • (866) 606-2787 General Application and Account Questions with live rep
  • (888) 201-4523 Application status
  • (866) 606-2961 Reconsideration Line.
  • Twitter : @AskCiti. Very powerful tool.
  • Executive Office - useful for getting a more empowered agent for reconsideration purposes: CitiBank Executive Review Department, P.O. Box 6000, Sioux Falls, SD 57117
Admiral Club Access: You do not need to be flying AA that particular day of travel. (Ex: you're flying DL on the day of travel...you could still enter the AC lounge, even though you're not on an AA flight that day.) Beware, though, that individual lounges have individual rules (see the link below). Alternate rules usually come w/ Qantas lounges, not AA lounges. Furthermore, AC access "comes with" US Air access (19 locations). As of December 2015, authorized users have AC access (but not partner lounge access) even if they are not with the primary card holder.

For reference, an AC lounge list: http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...#admirals-club
For questions and discussions on lounge access: Help Desk: Lounge Access and Lounge Access Rules
Information on new authorized user AC lounge access: Citi Authorized User Admirals Club Benefit Terms

Also, please note that these cards do not include the 10% miles rebate offered by some other Citi AA products.

What about the EQM? AA tracks your miles earned on Executive card(s) and adds 10K Elite Qualifying Miles to your EQM balance once you earn 40,000 miles during a calendar year on Executive card(s). Any number of Executive cards can add up to the 40K, and you cannot earn more than 10K EQM each year. No redeemable miles are added, and this is of no consequence or value unless you will also earn at least 15K additional EQM in a given year by flying and 10K will bump you up to the next status level.

Direct phone number to Citi Fraud Prevention department: +18664705331

Concierge service enrollment (allows for electronic requests). Concierge number is +18778812668

Here are the minimum credit limit required amounts in order to keep an account open (for purposes of new card applications and reconsiderations)
Citi Amex 1k (likely citi gold as well)
Citi Visa signature/world MasterCard 3k (as low as 1k on some accounts YYMV)
Citi World elite Mastercards (including exec) 5k


Advice to those new to citi American Airlines cards,

If you are just starting out please apply and use the lower level citi AA card for a while before moving on to this thread and card. This will help you in the long run in more ways than one. Most of us here have opened and used lower level AA cards before moving on to this thread and card
Also,
Check out this thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...-benefits.html
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Old Dec 2, 2014, 12:40 pm
  #751  
 
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So it seems that many people apply, get points, cancel, repeat. Are we saying we're not sure if that works for all offers? I have a targeted 60k Exec card I'd like to try this on but not sure it will fly and I don't want to pay $450 annual fee.
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Old Dec 2, 2014, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by justinh20
So it seems that many people apply, get points, cancel, repeat. Are we saying we're not sure if that works for all offers? I have a targeted 60k Exec card I'd like to try this on but not sure it will fly and I don't want to pay $450 annual fee.
All Exec cards have the $450 fee cancellation language.
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Old Dec 2, 2014, 2:23 pm
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Originally Posted by justinh20
Aren't these people saying they have been doing this and it works?:
No, that is not what we are talking about, we started using a new link recently (option #2) and we don't have enough information about receiving the miles into AA account yet, some of our friends here have feared that it will take longer to deposit the miles into their accounts and they won't have enough time to get their AF refunded if they cancel.
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Old Dec 2, 2014, 2:29 pm
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Originally Posted by justinh20
So it seems that many people apply, get points, cancel, repeat. Are we saying we're not sure if that works for all offers? I have a targeted 60k Exec card I'd like to try this on but not sure it will fly and I don't want to pay $450 annual fee.
Have you ever applied for the exec card before ? if your answer is No, then you can apply for your offer (60K - 5K spending), the trick is to understand your timelines for your spending and AF refund; you have 37 days to cancel after your AF is posted to get your money back, you should only cancel after you get the miles into your AA account, can you do all that? can you get your spending quick enough to get your miles posted quick? ... are you willing to take the risk? if you are, then welcome to this thread.
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Old Dec 2, 2014, 3:11 pm
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Originally Posted by ninim2200
Have you ever applied for the exec card before ? if your answer is No, then you can apply for your offer (60K - 5K spending), the trick is to understand your timelines for your spending and AF refund; you have 37 days to cancel after your AF is posted to get your money back, you should only cancel after you get the miles into your AA account, can you do all that? can you get your spending quick enough to get your miles posted quick? ... are you willing to take the risk? if you are, then welcome to this thread.
Just want to add to the above, there is no way to know how soon the AF will post. Some people have had their first statement post, with the AF charged, literally days after receiving the card. Meaning they have around 37 days to do all the spend, have the next statement post, have the miles post to their AA account, and call to cancel the card. Others don't get their first statement for nearly a month after getting the card, and a few of those don't even have the AF post on the first statement. At least one person, some months ago, didn't have the AF post in the first 3 months. It's Citi, YMMV.

So as ninim2200 posted above, you need to be ready in case you get a quick statement with the AF included, so that you can get it all done in time. Then maybe you will get lucky and can spend a month or two doing it all. Just don't count on that.

Finally, I'm assuming this is your first EXEC app. If you have had an EXEC card before, make sure you go over the fine print on that app to make sure it doesn't say anywhere that you won't get a bonus if you've had an EXEC before. If this is your first EXEC card, no worries...
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Old Dec 2, 2014, 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by justinh20
How long have you been doing this and how has it impeached your AAoA and credit score?
For many years, as 90,000 US Airways in business class to Asia was the best deal in the industry, well till earlier this year. I predominately used these miles for ANA and United flights, I still never flown on US Airways...I'd say 10+ cards per person, I lost count at this point. I tend to earn and burn.

I don't really know what "impeached your AAoA" means, but my credit score is over 780 with all 3 agencies, it really does not change much. I have some CCs that I had for 15+ years now, so my credit history is pretty long, plus mortgage, a student loan, never been late, etc.

As for Barclays accounts, I don't have any aside from US Airways applications, but I close them within a month of opening it, so I don't have much history with them. Citi churning I been doing for about 7 years now, I cannot even recollect how many AAdvantage cards I had (pre-2009), probably dozens, and probably another dozen since that time. Citi HH, probably another dozen -- Citi has been good to us.

Good luck,

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Old Dec 2, 2014, 5:53 pm
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Check your AA Bookings

AA just made a major schedule change. In our case, they replaced the 777 we had flat bed seat FC reservations for next Summer, with an old 676 with business class angled flat seats. They did not contact us, nor refund the extra miles we had spent for FC. When checking "MY TRIPS" on the AA Website we were still listed as gong FC, despite the fact that the plane now scheduled to fly that route does not HAVE a FC.

If you are already booked on AA, check your reservations now and again. I called and complained, and the CSR at the Gold desk only offered to "try to get you some mileage back", since nothing was now available to book at the Saver rate.

I escalated to a Supervisor, suggested we would be happy to fly into Paris, which now has the 777 we were originally scheduled for, instead of Frankfurt, which now has the outmoded 763. She made the change for us. Not sure if being Lifetime Gold was a factor in that or not. But if that happens to you, politely but firmly insist that you are entitled to the class and quality of service and hard product you originally booked. Have an alternate flight to suggest they give you instead. And Good Luck...
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Old Dec 2, 2014, 6:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Brugge
AA just made a major schedule change. In our case, they replaced the 777 we had flat bed seat FC reservations for next Summer, with an old 676 with business class angled flat seats. They did not contact us, nor refund the extra miles we had spent for FC. When checking "MY TRIPS" on the AA Website we were still listed as gong FC, despite the fact that the plane now scheduled to fly that route does not HAVE a FC.

If you are already booked on AA, check your reservations now and again. I called and complained, and the CSR at the Gold desk only offered to "try to get you some mileage back", since nothing was now available to book at the Saver rate.

I escalated to a Supervisor, suggested we would be happy to fly into Paris, which now has the 777 we were originally scheduled for, instead of Frankfurt, which now has the outmoded 763. She made the change for us. Not sure if being Lifetime Gold was a factor in that or not. But if that happens to you, politely but firmly insist that you are entitled to the class and quality of service and hard product you originally booked. Have an alternate flight to suggest they give you instead. And Good Luck...
This sounds a little like my situation

I booked a my reservation last April (before the rules changed disallowing stopovers
my original booking was YYC-DFW (stop) MAD-TXL
I just kept extending my stopover, anyway

More recently I started wanting to go to Russia next summer to visit family., So, knowing that I would probably lose my stopover free stopover in DFW , I decided to change my final destination officially to Moscow and fill in the gap with regard to my Canada segment with BA avios.

However, about a day,after I had made the changes, ba let's me know that the afternoon flight from YYC to dfw is no longer operating and therefore I would be rebooted on the 6AM flight, and that connecting flight options with US Airways would cost considerably more BA miles. I called AA back and beg for my stopover back asking that they don't take additional miles from me to make it happen (based on the new award rules, which they agree to do.
Then a couple of days later I find more direct routing between MAD-DME so I call and ask to switch to that, after messing with my reservation for about an hour, the guy comes back and says that they,would need additional miles after all (i tried multiple times to get them to give me back the Additional miles but .. no luck
(it was lucky that I had the Additional 100k in my account or else I would have been screwed)
Well at least this new bonus from citi I hope to be getting soon, will get my account out of starvation mode.

Sorry for the interruption of the regularly scheduled programming. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...threads-2.html
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Old Dec 2, 2014, 8:52 pm
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i Just activated my latest card and my closing date is in 2 days 12/04.
so i am not going to use the card hoping the AF won't post on this statement.
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Old Dec 2, 2014, 9:10 pm
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Originally Posted by ninim2200
i Just activated my latest card and my closing date is in 2 days 12/04.
so i am not going to use the card hoping the AF won't post on this statement.
Worked for me! Let us know the outcome.
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Old Dec 2, 2014, 9:18 pm
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Got the card a couple days ago and made the full spend the day I activated the card.

Quick question(s): Could I pay the balance now (prior to the statement closing)? Would it potentially speed up the posting of the miles?

I guess I'm not sure what the trigger is that gets the miles posted (is it payment date or statement close?) From reading this entire thread, I didn't see it really addressed - or more that it kind of seems like a random time after the close of your first statement after the spend is made. But what if you pay before the statement closes?

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Old Dec 3, 2014, 5:22 am
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Originally Posted by ScubaAddict
Got the card a couple days ago and made the full spend the day I activated the card.

Quick question(s): Could I pay the balance now (prior to the statement closing)? Would it potentially speed up the posting of the miles?

I guess I'm not sure what the trigger is that gets the miles posted (is it payment date or statement close?) From reading this entire thread, I didn't see it really addressed - or more that it kind of seems like a random time after the close of your first statement after the spend is made. But what if you pay before the statement closes?
the miles should post on your statement if you meet your spending and the transaction clear on time. paying or not paying doesn't effect the miles being posted to your statement, so to answer your question, the trigger is statement closing with you meeting the spending.
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Old Dec 3, 2014, 9:26 am
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It looks like Option 1 is dead.

I'm considering applying for Option 2 this afternoon, getting my ducks in order for other cards as well...

Applied and approved (completed spending, still have) AA Exec 100k on 7/9/14 (can I close this and get prorated annual fee?)
Applied and approved for HHonors reserve on 11/24/14 (day 0)
-Insert Option 2 here- today (day 8)
- AA Business card – 01/29/2015 (day 65)

Does this seem reasonable?
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Old Dec 3, 2014, 10:37 am
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Originally Posted by macrophage
It looks like Option 1 is dead.

I'm considering applying for Option 2 this afternoon, getting my ducks in order for other cards as well...

Applied and approved (completed spending, still have) AA Exec 100k on 7/9/14 (can I close this and get prorated annual fee?)
Applied and approved for HHonors reserve on 11/24/14 (day 0)
-Insert Option 2 here- today (day 8)
- AA Business card 01/29/2015 (day 65)

Does this seem reasonable?
If option 1 isn't dead, it's in a serious coma and is totally unresponsive.

While I haven't tried it myself, I'm pretty sure I read several times that you cannot get a prorated refund on an EXEC card. But of course, since it's Citi, aka YMMV, you can always try. It's a toll free call....

Another option is to call "to cancel" and see if you get a retention bonus. Some months back people who did that were getting a $100 statement credit from the Retention specialist. The first CSR probably won't give you that offer, so you will need to ask to be transferred to the Retention specialist. Seem serious about canceling, but if they don't give you anything, you can always decide to "think it over", then not cancel after all.

If you do decide to cancel for whatever reason, make sure to SM Citi and have them lower your CL to the $5K minimum before you cancel.

Correct.

And if it's AA miles you want, if too many HPs isn't a factor, don't forget the Barclays US Air card with a 40K sign up bonus is still open for apps for a few more months. Those US miles will become AA miles sometime mid-2015.
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Old Dec 3, 2014, 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by Brugge
If option 1 isn't dead, it's in a serious coma and is totally unresponsive.

While I haven't tried it myself, I'm pretty sure I read several times that you cannot get a prorated refund on an EXEC card. But of course, since it's Citi, aka YMMV, you can always try. It's a toll free call....

Another option is to call "to cancel" and see if you get a retention bonus. Some months back people who did that were getting a $100 statement credit from the Retention specialist. The first CSR probably won't give you that offer, so you will need to ask to be transferred to the Retention specialist. Seem serious about canceling, but if they don't give you anything, you can always decide to "think it over", then not cancel after all.

If you do decide to cancel for whatever reason, make sure to SM Citi and have them lower your CL to the $5K minimum before you cancel.

Correct.

And if it's AA miles you want, if too many HPs isn't a factor, don't forget the Barclays US Air card with a 40K sign up bonus is still open for apps for a few more months. Those US miles will become AA miles sometime mid-2015.
Barclays doesn't seem to like me. I'll hold off till 2015 and my credit score to go back up before I play with them again. Maybe put some spending on my single Barclays card.

Thanks for the info! I'll go ahead and apply for the AA Option 2 today and let you know how it goes!
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