Citi AA Executive [Late 2014 - 2015]

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For questions NOT related to the application process - such as experiences using benefits - refer to the AA forum thread on this card: AA Citibank Executive / AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard (Master Thread)

Recommended Application Procedure:
Clear cache and cookies prior to applying or use an incognito or private browsing session to apply. Opening multiple different apps in different windows or tabs or failing to clear cookies/cache has resulted in people receiving a lesser offer for some Citi cards. We do not know, and Citi has not indicated, how long these offers will last. Citi has left other offers alive for over a year beyond the 'apply by' date in the past. These links could be here all year or gone tomorrow. If the application loads, it is good, based on past Citi applications that survived past the landing page expiration, regardless of any posted or advertised 'apply by' date.

MOST CURRENT LINKS:



CURRENT PUBLIC OFFER: 50k

"American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles are not available if you have had a Citi Executive® / AAdvantage® World EliteTM MasterCard® opened or closed in the past 18 months"

Link A50

Link B50

Link C50

Link D50

Link E50

Link F50

Link G50

PREVIOUS OFFERS


Previous 75k links (NOT WORKING 11/18)


Link A75, Link B75, Link C75, Link D75, Link E75, Link F75, Link G75, Link H75, Link I75, Link J75, Link K75


Landing Page
Application Page (Both pages include the 18 month language).

http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...-executive.jsp

Option 1: Zombie Link with no Landing Page, Several FTers have been using this link with Success. Application Link 50k with 5k spending

Option 2: [note: may be dead or dying as of 3/16/15- check most recent posts in thread] Current Zombie link Application Link 50K for 5K spending, no statement credit.

Option 3: This Link was obtained off of aa.com at one point Bonus is unknown Application Link.

Option 4: Citi Website Offer; Application has the following warning
"American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles are not available if you have had a Citi Executive® / AAdvantage® World EliteTM MasterCard® opened or closed in the past 18 months" There are indeed several reports of people who have already had an EXEC card not receiving any signup bonus miles. And no reports of anyone who has had an EXEC before actually getting any signup bonus at all. Do NOT use this link if you have ever had an EXEC card.
Landing page for New 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit and Application Link
The following are identical to Option 4, but the landing pages were working at the time they were entered into this wiki. All landing pages and application pages have the same content but (slightly) different URLs:
Option 4a: Landing page and Application page
Option 4b: Landing page and Application page
Option 4c: Landing page and Application page

Option 5: Does not have the 18-month language of Option 4, and the application form has the older format (like Option 2 and unlike Option 4).
Landing page for 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit and Application Link


Option 6: Artificially generated links; all lead to old-format application pages just like Options 1/2/5, without the "18 months" language found in Option 4 application pages. No landing page ever existed.
There are reports in the thread that applications using 6a/6d were approved but the UPS letter did not mention a bonus, and Citi telephone agents said there would be no bonus. Other reports say that the bonus was stated in the letter.
6a: Application page
6b: Application page
6c: Application page

6d: Application page

Option 7:The following link is very similar to Options 1/2/5 and has been found to work without an 18-month restriction. Since it does not originate from a landing page, there is no web page showing the bonus offer. However, the UPS letter confirms a 50K-mile bonus after $5K spend, and many people have reported that the bonuses have appeared in their AAdvantage accounts. Application Link Link to application page began dying on 6/1/2015. Now completely dead.



EXPEDITED SHIPPING
While reconsideration/application reps do not seem to be aware of this, these cards are expedited and usually arrive 1-2 days after approval.The CSR will not take a request to expedite the card.

Who is eligible for this card? Anyone as long as you can be approved for the minimum $5K credit line, subject to the standard Citi rules of 1 Citi app or card of any kind per 8 days and 2 Citi cards or apps of any kind per 65 days. It is always advisable to wait 65 days from any type of Citi denial before applying for another Citi card. Many have reported getting approved for this card in spite of having several open AA cards over the past year as well as having previously had this card.

Not sure about the 8 and 65 day rules? If your most recent application for any Citi card is less than click here - 8 days ago, you need to wait. Also, if your previous (second-to-last) Citi application is less than click here - 65 days ago, you need to wait. These are not rules published or known by Citi CSRs but rather based on thousands of Citi card applications and datapoints across several threads.

Credit inquiry history
Some have reported more approval success with no more than 5 or 6 Experian inquiries within the last 6 months. And Citi credit reviewers have told some applicants that too many inquiries is a problem, even with an excellent credit score. Multiple inquiries from other banks seem to be especially problematic, because Citi can't see their current balances as easily. Other applicants have been approved with more inquiries, especially with a long term Citi tenure and a favorable income to debt ratio.

This card can be churned. Recent datapoints concerning multiple Executive cards include posts 917, 1059 and starting at 1365. For in-depth datapoints and advice on churning Citi cards, read and study the extensive wiki posts in the HH thread and the AA Plat/gold thread. Click the plus on the right hand side of the wiki if you do not see the wiki text. Datapoints for bonus points posting on multiple cards include post 2579.


Getting around the $450 annual fee: Many people have been able to meet the spending requirement before the first statement posts and then cancel and have the fee refunded after the miles post. Details and datapoints include starting at post 74. T&C state that the card must be cancelled within 30 days of the fee posting to get it refunded; in practice you have 37 days. Potential problems with this plans include a very short (1 week or less) first "month" as well as delays in miles posting which have been reported by several FTers.

Once you cancel the card (within the 37 day window of AF posting) the refund will post on the account between 1-3 business days. Leave a $450 balance and it will be zeroed out.

Retention Bonus Offers: User have been offered the following retention bonus offers when calling to cancel the card:

- 5,000 points + $100 credit with $1,500 spend per month for 3 months 5333
- 2 additional club member passes 6862
- 1,000 bonus miles each month for 16 month, min $1k spend/month 6862
- [3/15] 15,000 bonus miles for spending $5k
- $450 Credit for spending $5k for next three statements

Already a member? If you already purchased an AC membership (for example, using the credit from Amex Plat) and apply and are approved for this card, AA will refund you the pro-rated AF from any time left on your membership.

When do miles post? Usually two days after your statement closing date. In some cases your statement will show the correct miles earned but will show 0 miles reported to AA. In this case see this thread.


Helpful points from post #3794 and others, especially for those new to Citi:
1) Citi CSRs are clueless, so disregard everything they say that seems to contradict anything you have read on F/T. And take everything else with a big grain of salt. I was told 3 times VERY CLEARLY "You will not got your annual fee refunded" while I was cancelling, but I did get it.

2a) With Citi, if you are approved for a card, and meet the minimum spend requirement, you will get the bonus listed for the offer you applied for. Every time ! Unlike Chase or AMEX, who will send you a card, wait for you to pay the fee and spend, and then say "sorry, you don't qualify for a bonus". If Citi doesn't intend to give you the bonus, they will just deny your app. They won't even do a pull, they will just instantly deny your app. If they send you the card, and you meet the spend on time, you will get the bonus. My attorney insists I add "that could change tomorrow", but from the Big Bang thru today, that has always been true.Recently, Citi has been approving Exec cards but not giving the bonus, e.g. when there has been less than 18 months from the previous application. Therefore, (a) use an application link that does not list the 18-month wait requirement; (b) check the letter you get via UPS to see if it explicitly promises the bonus; if it's in the letter, it will be honored (c) if in doubt, call and ask.

2b) Another helpful post discussing timeframe for meeting min spend: 6279

3) Any expectation that Citi will do things that make sense is just plain silly. They won't.

Citibank Contacts/Resources
  • Application status: https://www.accountonline.com/cards/...?screenID=3187
  • (800) 695-5171 – Personal Application Status and Reconsideration Line with live rep
  • (800) 763-9795 – General Personal Application Inquiries with live rep
  • (866) 606-2787 – General Application and Account Questions with live rep
  • (888) 201-4523 – Application status
  • (866) 606-2961 – Reconsideration Line.
  • Twitter : @AskCiti. Very powerful tool.
  • Executive Office - useful for getting a more empowered agent for reconsideration purposes: CitiBank Executive Review Department, P.O. Box 6000, Sioux Falls, SD 57117
Admiral Club Access: You do not need to be flying AA that particular day of travel. (Ex: you're flying DL on the day of travel...you could still enter the AC lounge, even though you're not on an AA flight that day.) Beware, though, that individual lounges have individual rules (see the link below). Alternate rules usually come w/ Qantas lounges, not AA lounges. Furthermore, AC access "comes with" US Air access (19 locations). As of December 2015, authorized users have AC access (but not partner lounge access) even if they are not with the primary card holder.

For reference, an AC lounge list: http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...#admirals-club
For questions and discussions on lounge access: Help Desk: Lounge Access and Lounge Access Rules
Information on new authorized user AC lounge access: Citi Authorized User Admirals Club Benefit Terms

Also, please note that these cards do not include the 10% miles rebate offered by some other Citi AA products.

What about the EQM? AA tracks your miles earned on Executive card(s) and adds 10K Elite Qualifying Miles to your EQM balance once you earn 40,000 miles during a calendar year on Executive card(s). Any number of Executive cards can add up to the 40K, and you cannot earn more than 10K EQM each year. No redeemable miles are added, and this is of no consequence or value unless you will also earn at least 15K additional EQM in a given year by flying and 10K will bump you up to the next status level.

Direct phone number to Citi Fraud Prevention department: +18664705331

Concierge service enrollment (allows for electronic requests). Concierge number is +18778812668

Here are the minimum credit limit required amounts in order to keep an account open (for purposes of new card applications and reconsiderations)
Citi Amex 1k (likely citi gold as well)
Citi Visa signature/world MasterCard 3k (as low as 1k on some accounts YYMV)
Citi World elite Mastercards (including exec) 5k


Advice to those new to citi American Airlines cards,

If you are just starting out please apply and use the lower level citi AA card for a while before moving on to this thread and card. This will help you in the long run in more ways than one. Most of us here have opened and used lower level AA cards before moving on to this thread and card
Also,
Check out this thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...-benefits.html
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Old May 2, 15, 11:51 pm
  #3361  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by wyogold View Post
I applied for a card on April 1 (no joke here) for both my wife and I. Her closing date is 4/22, mine is 4/15. So no pattern there.

HOWEVER her first spend was on 4/12, mine was on 4/3. So time between first spend and closing date is similar.

I opened another on 4/15 for me, first spend on 4/19, no closing yet.

Older timepoint: SO: Opened 2/23, first spend 2/25, closing 3/3

No other detailed info, but the only pattern I can see for my SO and I for April 1st at least, acct closing is the second friday after first spend, not dependent on acct opening date. Obviously that didn't hold for the one opened for me on april 15 with first spend on 19th

Hard to argue it's not random ...
Originally Posted by ninim2200 View Post
I don't believe that first usage/transaction has to do with statement closing date (#3), after you activate the card and log in to your account you can see your statement closing date, even before your first transaction. so #3 is irrelevant.
ninim is correct - the date of the first transaction isn't related to the closing date in any way. You closing date is set before you ever make a transaction. You can (usually, at least) see your next statement closing date the minute you activate your card and add it to your online account.
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Old May 2, 15, 11:56 pm
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Originally Posted by nwflyboy View Post
Based on this (admittedly very small) sample, plus common sense, it looks like the delta between closing date and due date is around 26 days (give or take a day).
Yes, that part is always consistent, across all Citi cards (at least AA cards). I've always looked at it as 4 days before the next statement closing date, but now I have to wonder if maybe it is 26 days after. Of course, their website just would be down right now, so I can't verify either way.
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Old May 3, 15, 7:32 am
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Just to be clear, what bobert24 and I were talking about (I think) has nothing to do with trying to figure out how the closing date is determined. Of course it's determined before you ever use the card. That's of no concern for me and I agree is pretty much set randomly (maybe this is set by a Citi internal cash flow algorithm?)

What I'm interested in looking at is seeing if we can figure if there is a specific (or more likely) set of circumstances in which the annual fee does not post on first statement.
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Old May 3, 15, 4:24 pm
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I got approved for Citi Executive Advantage and wanted to buy AMEX GC for 5K. Did anyone know this will be treated as purchase or Cash Advance? Thanks.
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Old May 3, 15, 4:56 pm
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Originally Posted by ramamosn View Post
I got approved for Citi Executive Advantage and wanted to buy AMEX GC for 5K. Did anyone know this will be treated as purchase or Cash Advance? Thanks.
last time i purchased Amex GC using this card was last summer and it was treated as purchase. if you are not sure, send a SM and set your cash advance to zero prior to your purchase.
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Old May 4, 15, 9:46 am
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I just applied for card #10 and got instant approval!! CL $30.5. I will be applying for DH in 2 days. All is well in Churnland!! Doing the Happy Dance once again!!!

Firefox, cleared cache, private browsing.
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Old May 4, 15, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by ramamosn View Post
I got approved for Citi Executive Advantage and wanted to buy AMEX GC for 5K. Did anyone know this will be treated as purchase or Cash Advance? Thanks.
For me, 6-7 months ago it was treated as a purchase by Citi. I was assured elsewhere on FT that it would be treated as a cash advance (see wiki in below forum), but it wasn't. You might check in there and see if anybody has something more recent regarding Citi and AMEX GCs.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...rumbs-etc.html

But echo what was said above, just message Citi and have them set cash advance limit to $0 and no worries.
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Old May 4, 15, 10:47 am
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Originally Posted by slhansen219 View Post
I just applied for card #10 and got instant approval!! CL $30.5. I will be applying for DH in 2 days. All is well in Churnland!! Doing the Happy Dance once again!!!

Firefox, cleared cache, private browsing.
congrats on the instant approval.
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Old May 4, 15, 10:49 am
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Originally Posted by ninim2200 View Post
congrats on the instant approval.
I know!!! First time in a jillion months!!!!
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Old May 4, 15, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by ninim2200 View Post
congrats on the instant approval.
^
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Old May 4, 15, 1:27 pm
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Used link #7, had to call recon. CSR said I was at my credit limit with Citi (which I knew shouldn't have been true). She looked to see if she could get me approved at all (I offered to move credit if needed), and within 5 seconds was offering me a higher CL than I've ever had on any Citi card in 10+ years with them. Put me on hold, and completed the approval.

Is this just another instance of Citi CSRs not knowing what the actual issue is, or what? A very quick about face on the original story.
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Old May 4, 15, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by bobert24 View Post
Used link #7, had to call recon. CSR said I was at my credit limit with Citi (which I knew shouldn't have been true). She looked to see if she could get me approved at all (I offered to move credit if needed), and within 5 seconds was offering me a higher CL than I've ever had on any Citi card in 10+ years with them. Put me on hold, and completed the approval.

Is this just another instance of Citi CSRs not knowing what the actual issue is, or what? A very quick about face on the original story.
You can do the Happy Dance too!!!
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Old May 4, 15, 1:42 pm
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A little more info on where in the page source you can find your application ID if you get to step 3, but aren't given one:

View the source of the page, then search for any of these terms:
2015 or 2015MMDD (which means today would be 20150504)
AppID
sppID

The application ID will be in the format YYYYMMDD#######. So this could be a valid application for today, 5/4/15: 201505041234567.

Hope that helps somebody.
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Old May 4, 15, 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by slhansen219 View Post
You can do the Happy Dance too!!!
This was the final card in a long-awaited AOR. My day has consisted of happy dances all day long, so I'll be glad to join you.
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Old May 4, 15, 2:16 pm
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We got our cards on Saturday (5/2) (we were out unfortunately so didn't receive them until Saturday night) and put max on them Sunday (5/3), closing is 5/5, hoping they come out of pending before closing. My wife missed her bonus on a AA Plat Biz by 1 day, so we have to wait 30 days before she'll get her points.
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