Oct 28, 14, 2:34 pm
Last edit by: tonei
Transition-Related Notes
• Members are starting to receive Priority Pass Select cards in the mail. These are sent by Collinson via USPS, separately from the rebranded Prestige cards.
• There was a decimal rounding error in the ThankYou point accounting on October statements. Remove a 0 from each of the totals reported - it should then match
• Members who signed up prior to 10/18 still only receive a $250 airline credit for the year; if you previously used the $200 incidental credit, you can get another $50 in airline purchases reimbursed through December.
• If you signed up before 10/18/14 you are eligible to receive the 15% discount and companion benefits for a year after your signup date. Call Citi at 877-288-2484 and ask to speak with a travel specialist, rather than letting them send the information to Spirit Incentives for an email quote. There are mixed reviews as to the efficacy of this service.
• Members are starting to receive Priority Pass Select cards in the mail. These are sent by Collinson via USPS, separately from the rebranded Prestige cards.
• There was a decimal rounding error in the ThankYou point accounting on October statements. Remove a 0 from each of the totals reported - it should then match
• Members who signed up prior to 10/18 still only receive a $250 airline credit for the year; if you previously used the $200 incidental credit, you can get another $50 in airline purchases reimbursed through December.
• If you signed up before 10/18/14 you are eligible to receive the 15% discount and companion benefits for a year after your signup date. Call Citi at 877-288-2484 and ask to speak with a travel specialist, rather than letting them send the information to Spirit Incentives for an email quote. There are mixed reviews as to the efficacy of this service.
CITI Prestige changes effective 10-18-14
Feb 10, 15, 3:26 am
#736
Join Date: Jul 2005
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Starwood Platinum, AA, SW, Delta
Posts: 825
so the beauty of the prestige card is not to use the thank you points until i get enough for a plane ticket? And after that can i buy the ticket for someone?
Feb 10, 15, 5:18 am
#737
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: 10023-Central Park West
Programs: CHASE UNITED CLUB; CITI PRESTIGE； IHG SPIRE AMBASSADOR; RITZ-CARLTON GOLD; Global Entry
Posts: 227
Do we have to ""get enough" points to buy air-ticket??
Originally Posted by happyvoid
so the beauty of the prestige card is not to use the thank you points until i get enough for a plane ticket? And after that can i buy the ticket for someone?
I thought that we did not have to "get enough" points to buy airtickets, we can buy at any amount of points and make up the differences with cash. I hope I am right but I am not sure.
Feb 10, 15, 8:32 am
#738
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 8,410
Originally Posted by ylord789
I thought that we did not have to "get enough" points to buy airtickets, we can buy at any amount of points and make up the differences with cash. I hope I am right but I am not sure.
Feb 10, 15, 8:54 am
#739
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: LAX
Programs: AA, TY, UR, UA, US, WN, MR, SPG
Posts: 1,453
My Prestige statement just closed, and the TY point summary section looks like it's messed up again. There's a line that reads:
I only got ~3K TY points on this statement, but it shows total earning at 11,273.
As far as I can tell, the ~3K I earned was the correct amount.
Additional Bonuses: 10,408
As far as I can tell, the ~3K I earned was the correct amount.
Feb 10, 15, 10:27 am
#740
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Originally Posted by roki
.There's a line that reads:
I only got ~3K TY points on this statement, but it shows total earning at 11,273.
I only got ~3K TY points on this statement, but it shows total earning at 11,273.
My statement shows that I earned 10,364 Flight Points, of which 7,745 were transferred to ThankYou Points.
My statement shows that I earned 11,324 Additional Bonuses. That number includes those 10,364 Flight Points. The difference is 960 points which is exactly the amount of my Relationship Bonus, mentioned only in a paragraph at the bottom of the statement.
Edited to add: The amount of Bonus Points posted to ThankYou Points is 8,705 which is the sum of the Posted Flight Points and the Relationship Bonus 7,745+960=8,705. The statement will be much easier to understand once all of the legacy Flight Points have posted, but I have flights booked out into July.
Last edited by mia; Feb 10, 15 at 1:47 pm
Feb 10, 15, 12:15 pm
#741
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Up In The Cloud
Programs: UA 1K MM; BA S, AA G; AS G; DL | SPG P50, M G, CC G, IHG P, HLT S | Hertz PC, Avis F
Posts: 682
Originally Posted by mia
I think I have figured this out:
My statement shows that I earned 10,364 Flight Points, of which 7,745 were transferred to ThankYou Points.
My statement shows that I earned 11,324 Additional Bonuses. That number includes those 10,364 Flight Points. The difference is 960 points which is exactly the amount of my Relationship Bonus, mentioned only in a paragraph at the bottom of the statement.
My statement shows that I earned 10,364 Flight Points, of which 7,745 were transferred to ThankYou Points.
My statement shows that I earned 11,324 Additional Bonuses. That number includes those 10,364 Flight Points. The difference is 960 points which is exactly the amount of my Relationship Bonus, mentioned only in a paragraph at the bottom of the statement.
Suppose I earn 50K base points, 100K category bonus points, 150K matched flight points, 60K sign up bonus points the past membership year and my relationship bonus is 10%. How many relationship bonus points will I earn?
Feb 10, 15, 3:33 pm
#742
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: LAX
Programs: AA, TY, UR, UA, US, WN, MR, SPG
Posts: 1,453
Originally Posted by mia
I think I have figured this out:
My statement shows that I earned 10,364 Flight Points, of which 7,745 were transferred to ThankYou Points.
My statement shows that I earned 11,324 Additional Bonuses. That number includes those 10,364 Flight Points. The difference is 960 points which is exactly the amount of my Relationship Bonus, mentioned only in a paragraph at the bottom of the statement.
Edited to add: The amount of Bonus Points posted to ThankYou Points is 8,705 which is the sum of the Posted Flight Points and the Relationship Bonus 7,745+960=8,705. The statement will be much easier to understand once all of the legacy Flight Points have posted, but I have flights booked out into July.
My statement shows that I earned 10,364 Flight Points, of which 7,745 were transferred to ThankYou Points.
My statement shows that I earned 11,324 Additional Bonuses. That number includes those 10,364 Flight Points. The difference is 960 points which is exactly the amount of my Relationship Bonus, mentioned only in a paragraph at the bottom of the statement.
Edited to add: The amount of Bonus Points posted to ThankYou Points is 8,705 which is the sum of the Posted Flight Points and the Relationship Bonus 7,745+960=8,705. The statement will be much easier to understand once all of the legacy Flight Points have posted, but I have flights booked out into July.
I earned 9,124 FP on the statement, and 1,252 Relationship Bonus. I also had $32 in Airline Credit posted, so:
9,124 FP + 1,252 Relationship Bonus + 32 Adjustment for Flight Credit = 10,408 "Additional Bonus"
However, my ACTUAL earning to my TY account was 865 FP + 801 3x + 64 1x + 819 (Relationship Bonus) + 433 (Relationship Bonus) = 2982.
Pretty weird breakdown, but at least the numbers add up (sort of).
Feb 10, 15, 4:08 pm
#743
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: DFW
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, Admirals Club, Global Entry
Posts: 1,120
I don't quite follow the numbers.
But here's the question: how is the 15/25% relationship bonus calculated?
The "relationship bonus" is 15% for Gold, 25% for Private, according to the T&Cs, but is that only on the "base" TYPs (i.e., only 1x no matter what the spend category) or is it fully inclusive of bonus TYPs (i.e., on the full 2x or 3x, depending on the spend category)? From your numbers, it looks as though the TYP relationship bonus is fully grossed up to include a bonus on both base and bonus-category points?
But here's the question: how is the 15/25% relationship bonus calculated?
The "relationship bonus" is 15% for Gold, 25% for Private, according to the T&Cs, but is that only on the "base" TYPs (i.e., only 1x no matter what the spend category) or is it fully inclusive of bonus TYPs (i.e., on the full 2x or 3x, depending on the spend category)? From your numbers, it looks as though the TYP relationship bonus is fully grossed up to include a bonus on both base and bonus-category points?
Feb 10, 15, 5:07 pm
#744
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: LAX
Programs: AA, TY, UR, UA, US, WN, MR, SPG
Posts: 1,453
Originally Posted by FallenPlat
I don't quite follow the numbers.
But here's the question: how is the 15/25% relationship bonus calculated?
The "relationship bonus" is 15% for Gold, 25% for Private, according to the T&Cs, but is that only on the "base" TYPs (i.e., only 1x no matter what the spend category) or is it fully inclusive of bonus TYPs (i.e., on the full 2x or 3x, depending on the spend category)? From your numbers, it looks as though the TYP relationship bonus is fully grossed up to include a bonus on both base and bonus-category points?
But here's the question: how is the 15/25% relationship bonus calculated?
The "relationship bonus" is 15% for Gold, 25% for Private, according to the T&Cs, but is that only on the "base" TYPs (i.e., only 1x no matter what the spend category) or is it fully inclusive of bonus TYPs (i.e., on the full 2x or 3x, depending on the spend category)? From your numbers, it looks as though the TYP relationship bonus is fully grossed up to include a bonus on both base and bonus-category points?
Feb 10, 15, 6:16 pm
#745
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Up In The Cloud
Programs: UA 1K MM; BA S, AA G; AS G; DL | SPG P50, M G, CC G, IHG P, HLT S | Hertz PC, Avis F
Posts: 682
Originally Posted by roki
AFAIK, The relationship bonus is 15% annual for Gold. I was only Gold for 10 months out of the year last year, but I can't make my 1292 points make sense. That's only ~$8600, and I spent twice that in 2014 on the Prestige.
So it is at most 5%+5% for you. You may need to exclude those purchases when you were not Citi Gold.
Feb 10, 15, 6:20 pm
#746
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: LAX
Programs: AA, TY, UR, UA, US, WN, MR, SPG
Posts: 1,453
Originally Posted by cloudybw
For the first anniversary after 10/18/2014, the relationship bonus is still calculated using the old method:
So it is at most 5%+5% for you. You may need to exclude those purchases when you were not Citi Gold.
So it is at most 5%+5% for you. You may need to exclude those purchases when you were not Citi Gold.
Feb 10, 15, 11:13 pm
#747
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Plat, UA Gold
Posts: 602
Originally Posted by hiima
It's actually not AC membership, it's AC access when flying AA/US flight. AC membership gets you in without flying AA/US.
Feb 11, 15, 7:04 am
#748
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: 10023-Central Park West
Programs: CHASE UNITED CLUB; CITI PRESTIGE； IHG SPIRE AMBASSADOR; RITZ-CARLTON GOLD; Global Entry
Posts: 227
I have heard that there are very bad tax consequences of TY points. Anyone got stoned by 1099 yet? I am scared.
Feb 11, 15, 8:47 am
#749
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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Originally Posted by ylord789
I have heard that there are very bad tax consequences of TY points. .
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...all-banks.html
Feb 11, 15, 9:12 am
#750
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Originally Posted by cloudybw
Is the relationship calculated based on total points or just based points earned last membership year?
