Old Oct 28, 14, 2:34 pm
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Transition-Related Notes
Members are starting to receive Priority Pass Select cards in the mail. These are sent by Collinson via USPS, separately from the rebranded Prestige cards.
There was a decimal rounding error in the ThankYou point accounting on October statements. Remove a 0 from each of the totals reported - it should then match
Members who signed up prior to 10/18 still only receive a $250 airline credit for the year; if you previously used the $200 incidental credit, you can get another $50 in airline purchases reimbursed through December.
If you signed up before 10/18/14 you are eligible to receive the 15% discount and companion benefits for a year after your signup date. Call Citi at 877-288-2484 and ask to speak with a travel specialist, rather than letting them send the information to Spirit Incentives for an email quote. There are mixed reviews as to the efficacy of this service.
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Old Feb 10, 15, 3:26 am
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so the beauty of the prestige card is not to use the thank you points until i get enough for a plane ticket? And after that can i buy the ticket for someone?
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Old Feb 10, 15, 5:18 am
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Do we have to ""get enough" points to buy air-ticket??

Originally Posted by happyvoid View Post
so the beauty of the prestige card is not to use the thank you points until i get enough for a plane ticket? And after that can i buy the ticket for someone?


I thought that we did not have to "get enough" points to buy airtickets, we can buy at any amount of points and make up the differences with cash. I hope I am right but I am not sure.
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Old Feb 10, 15, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by ylord789 View Post
I thought that we did not have to "get enough" points to buy airtickets, we can buy at any amount of points and make up the differences with cash. I hope I am right but I am not sure.
That's correct. When you buy an airline ticket through thankyou.com, it lets you choose any mix (to the penny) of $ and TYPs. And you can buy a ticket for anyone (doesn't have to be for you). It's really no different than buying a ticket through travelocity or expedia except that the search feature isn't as good (you'll want to shop for flights on another site before buying them at thankyou.com) and you can use a mix of TYPs and $s.
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Old Feb 10, 15, 8:54 am
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My Prestige statement just closed, and the TY point summary section looks like it's messed up again. There's a line that reads:

Additional Bonuses: 10,408
I only got ~3K TY points on this statement, but it shows total earning at 11,273.

As far as I can tell, the ~3K I earned was the correct amount.
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Old Feb 10, 15, 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by roki View Post
.There's a line that reads:
I only got ~3K TY points on this statement, but it shows total earning at 11,273.
I think I have figured this out:

My statement shows that I earned 10,364 Flight Points, of which 7,745 were transferred to ThankYou Points.

My statement shows that I earned 11,324 Additional Bonuses. That number includes those 10,364 Flight Points. The difference is 960 points which is exactly the amount of my Relationship Bonus, mentioned only in a paragraph at the bottom of the statement.

Edited to add: The amount of Bonus Points posted to ThankYou Points is 8,705 which is the sum of the Posted Flight Points and the Relationship Bonus 7,745+960=8,705. The statement will be much easier to understand once all of the legacy Flight Points have posted, but I have flights booked out into July.

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Old Feb 10, 15, 12:15 pm
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Originally Posted by mia View Post
I think I have figured this out:

My statement shows that I earned 10,364 Flight Points, of which 7,745 were transferred to ThankYou Points.

My statement shows that I earned 11,324 Additional Bonuses. That number includes those 10,364 Flight Points. The difference is 960 points which is exactly the amount of my Relationship Bonus, mentioned only in a paragraph at the bottom of the statement.
Is the relationship calculated based on total points or just based points earned last membership year?

Suppose I earn 50K base points, 100K category bonus points, 150K matched flight points, 60K sign up bonus points the past membership year and my relationship bonus is 10%. How many relationship bonus points will I earn?
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Old Feb 10, 15, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by mia View Post
I think I have figured this out:

My statement shows that I earned 10,364 Flight Points, of which 7,745 were transferred to ThankYou Points.

My statement shows that I earned 11,324 Additional Bonuses. That number includes those 10,364 Flight Points. The difference is 960 points which is exactly the amount of my Relationship Bonus, mentioned only in a paragraph at the bottom of the statement.

Edited to add: The amount of Bonus Points posted to ThankYou Points is 8,705 which is the sum of the Posted Flight Points and the Relationship Bonus 7,745+960=8,705. The statement will be much easier to understand once all of the legacy Flight Points have posted, but I have flights booked out into July.
Ah, there we go.

I earned 9,124 FP on the statement, and 1,252 Relationship Bonus. I also had $32 in Airline Credit posted, so:

9,124 FP + 1,252 Relationship Bonus + 32 Adjustment for Flight Credit = 10,408 "Additional Bonus"

However, my ACTUAL earning to my TY account was 865 FP + 801 3x + 64 1x + 819 (Relationship Bonus) + 433 (Relationship Bonus) = 2982.

Pretty weird breakdown, but at least the numbers add up (sort of).
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Old Feb 10, 15, 4:08 pm
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I don't quite follow the numbers.

But here's the question: how is the 15/25% relationship bonus calculated?

The "relationship bonus" is 15% for Gold, 25% for Private, according to the T&Cs, but is that only on the "base" TYPs (i.e., only 1x no matter what the spend category) or is it fully inclusive of bonus TYPs (i.e., on the full 2x or 3x, depending on the spend category)? From your numbers, it looks as though the TYP relationship bonus is fully grossed up to include a bonus on both base and bonus-category points?
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Old Feb 10, 15, 5:07 pm
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Originally Posted by FallenPlat View Post
I don't quite follow the numbers.

But here's the question: how is the 15/25% relationship bonus calculated?

The "relationship bonus" is 15% for Gold, 25% for Private, according to the T&Cs, but is that only on the "base" TYPs (i.e., only 1x no matter what the spend category) or is it fully inclusive of bonus TYPs (i.e., on the full 2x or 3x, depending on the spend category)? From your numbers, it looks as though the TYP relationship bonus is fully grossed up to include a bonus on both base and bonus-category points?
AFAIK, The relationship bonus is 15% annual for Gold. I was only Gold for 10 months out of the year last year, but I can't make my 1292 points make sense. That's only ~$8600, and I spent twice that in 2014 on the Prestige.
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Old Feb 10, 15, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by roki View Post
AFAIK, The relationship bonus is 15% annual for Gold. I was only Gold for 10 months out of the year last year, but I can't make my 1292 points make sense. That's only ~$8600, and I spent twice that in 2014 on the Prestige.
For the first anniversary after 10/18/2014, the relationship bonus is still calculated using the old method:



So it is at most 5%+5% for you. You may need to exclude those purchases when you were not Citi Gold.
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Old Feb 10, 15, 6:20 pm
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Originally Posted by cloudybw View Post
For the first anniversary after 10/18/2014, the relationship bonus is still calculated using the old method:



So it is at most 5%+5% for you. You may need to exclude those purchases when you were not Citi Gold.
Looks like it was the 10 months at 5%, since I didn't hit $50K. That comes out to 1280, so it probably has something to do with statement / downgrade dates.
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Old Feb 10, 15, 11:13 pm
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Originally Posted by hiima View Post
It's actually not AC membership, it's AC access when flying AA/US flight. AC membership gets you in without flying AA/US.
I find that most of the time, they dont bother asking for my boarding pass anyways tho.
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Old Feb 11, 15, 7:04 am
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I have heard that there are very bad tax consequences of TY points. Anyone got stoned by 1099 yet? I am scared.
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Old Feb 11, 15, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by ylord789 View Post
I have heard that there are very bad tax consequences of TY points. .
This applies only to points earned from banking, not points earned by using a credit card. See this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...all-banks.html
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Old Feb 11, 15, 9:12 am
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Originally Posted by cloudybw View Post
Is the relationship calculated based on total points or just based points earned last membership year?
My 960 point bonus makes no sense at all. CY 2014 spending was $31,xxx which means bonus should have been at least 1,550 points. Customer Service had no explanation, but decided to award an extra 1,000 points to end the matter.
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