Old Oct 28, 14, 2:34 pm
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Transition-Related Notes
Members are starting to receive Priority Pass Select cards in the mail. These are sent by Collinson via USPS, separately from the rebranded Prestige cards.
There was a decimal rounding error in the ThankYou point accounting on October statements. Remove a 0 from each of the totals reported - it should then match
Members who signed up prior to 10/18 still only receive a $250 airline credit for the year; if you previously used the $200 incidental credit, you can get another $50 in airline purchases reimbursed through December.
If you signed up before 10/18/14 you are eligible to receive the 15% discount and companion benefits for a year after your signup date. Call Citi at 877-288-2484 and ask to speak with a travel specialist, rather than letting them send the information to Spirit Incentives for an email quote. There are mixed reviews as to the efficacy of this service.
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Old Jul 22, 14, 11:55 am
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When I was in the Citi branch yesterday, the rep read something off the screen about the use of airport clubs being expanded/improved with the new changes. Did not get details.

3 TY points for airfare and hotels looks somewhat promising.
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Old Jul 22, 14, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by toomanybooks
When I was in the Citi branch yesterday, the rep read something off the screen about the use of airport clubs being expanded/improved with the new changes. Did not get details.

3 TY points for airfare and hotels looks somewhat promising.
If it combines with flight point conversion (I'm assuming it would be 3+1, not 3+3) perhaps. But I'd rather have 2 UR points than 3 TY points (using CSP).
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Old Jul 22, 14, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by roki
But I'd rather have 2 UR points than 3 TY points (using CSP).
Even if buying AA tickets @ 1.6 cents? Sorry if the answer is obvious; I am new to TY points.
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Old Jul 22, 14, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by toomanybooks
Even if buying AA tickets @ 1.6 cents? Sorry if the answer is obvious; I am new to TY points.
Well, no, the answer is far from obvious. Your point is valid. 3x @ 1.6 is 4.8%, and that is a very solid value. In general, I get a minimum 2.5 cents per point out of my UR points (through transfers to UA, BA, and occasionally Hyatt). To me, 2 UR points are worth 5 cents. 3 TY points are worth 4.8 cents. It's fairly comparable. Again, these are the personal values I assign to the points.

The big thing for me is that Citi practically gives away points. I earn 36K TY points a year just for having my bank accounts with Citi, no spend required. I earn TY points at 2-3x the rate I earn UR points, so 9 times out of 10, I pull out the CSP over the Prestige.
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Old Jul 22, 14, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by roki
Well, no, the answer is far from obvious. Your point is valid. 3x @ 1.6 is 4.8%, and that is a very solid value. In general, I get a minimum 2.5 cents per point out of my UR points (through transfers to UA, BA, and occasionally Hyatt). To me, 2 UR points are worth 5 cents. 3 TY points are worth 4.8 cents. It's fairly comparable. Again, these are the personal values I assign to the points.
OK, thanks. I think I get a bit less value than you do for UR. Also, the 15% Citigold bonus must be considered for some of us, making TY worth (4.8 + .72) = 5.52 cents.

Best solution is to have both kinds, seems like.
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Old Jul 22, 14, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by toomanybooks
OK, thanks. I think I get a bit less value than you do for UR. Also, the 15% Citigold bonus must be considered for some of us, making TY worth (4.8 + .72) = 5.52 cents.

Best solution is to have both kinds, seems like.
Interesting point on the bonus. I have Citigold as well.

I wonder if anyone who had flight points on their Premier can weigh in if the bonus categories (2x, 3x) convert 2x and 3x flight points, too.
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Old Jul 22, 14, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by roki
I wonder if anyone who had flight points on their Premier can weigh in if the bonus categories (2x, 3x) convert 2x and 3x flight points, too.
It doesn't right now for the 2x on dining, so I would expect it would be the same case for the new bonus categories.
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Old Jul 22, 14, 1:56 pm
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Flight Points are matched only by the one base point per dollar for spending. No type of bonus point matches Flight Points. This change occurred even before Chairman cards were converted to Prestige.

I did not bother to check if the Relationship Bonus is calculated only on base points, but that is what I would expect.

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Old Jul 22, 14, 6:59 pm
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I have the Citi Prestige but was wondering if anyone knows if the Citi Ultima Card is issued in the USA by Citibank NA. I have a Citigold account and asked but people at the branch don't tend to know much. Figured if anyone knew it would be here. Seems like it's a higher version of CC than the Prestige. Wonder if they are watering it down and maybe Citi will launch a higher level card. Benefits taken from Prestige going to Ultima or whatever.
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Old Jul 22, 14, 8:22 pm
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Chairman

Does anyone else think it is odd that Citi continues to show images of the Chairman card? I am an original MasterCard Chairman cardholder and kept the MasterCard version until I was transitioned to the Prestige when it re-launched last year. However, I keep seeing references to it such as on this Citi Private Pass website:

http://www.citiprivatepass.com/beyond

I know Citi is large and there will always be a lag with initiatives and there will be times when the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing, but this seems odd to me. Having a card higher than Prestige makes no sense to me...I am not one for conspiracy theories...but is Citi doing something here with changes to the Prestige to make room for a Chairman comeback?
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Originally Posted by roki
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The big thing for me is that Citi practically gives away points. I earn 36K TY points a year just for having my bank accounts with Citi, no spend required.
I'm also earning 2600 per month for banking, but you can't transfer those to partners.
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Old Jul 23, 14, 8:05 am
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Originally Posted by yugi
I'm also earning 2600 per month for banking, but you can't transfer those to partners.
Just want to confirm this is the case since I was looking at opening an account for more points?

Due the two recent changes, CSP no more 7% bonus after 2015 and TY points transferable to some quality airline FF programs, I'm taking a look at Citi TY cards. So have some questions and will update the wiki as I'm sure there are others taking a look at citi TY cards because of the recent changes.
  1. I thought the Angel airport lounges access was going away, any idea on how this will be replaced?
  2. Has anyone found good value out of the 4th night free stay at luxury hotels? Are these non-refundable bookings, do you receive your hotel points and or benefits if your gold, PLT Dia member of the hotel? I have tried to use the Amex fine hotels and resorts but the rates are not competitive. Reading through the T&C's it looks like you can try a BRG with Carlson WT.
  3. Can you apply for all TY cards (preferred, premier, prestige and business) at once and still receive all sign-up bonus if you meet spend requirements?
  4. any other benefit you find particularly nice. I already have Global entry and understand the value of the $200 airline credit. The paid green fees for the golf courses in Asia looks interesting but I can't find what are the courses other than sensota in SIN.
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Old Jul 23, 14, 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by kmcbrid2
I thought the Angel airport lounges access was going away, any idea on how this will be replaced?
There is already access to AA Admirals Clubs for the primary cardholder only, and only when flying AA. Lounge Club or (less likely) Priority Pass Select is likely to replace Airport Angel. Scroll back to post 468 and read forward.

Originally Posted by kmcbrid2
Can you apply for all TY cards (preferred, premier, prestige and business) at once and still receive all sign-up bonus if you meet spend requirements?
No. See, for example, the Wikipost of this thread:

2. What are the most current time-restriction rules in applying for all Citi cards?

Only 1 Citi application of any kind per week (8 days to be safe).
No more than 2 Citi applications of any kind in 60 days (65 days to be safe).
No more than 1 Citi business application in 90 days (95 to be safe). This does not override the rules above.
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Old Jul 23, 14, 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by kmcbrid2
[*]Has anyone found good value out of the 4th night free stay at luxury hotels? Are these non-refundable bookings, do you receive your hotel points and or benefits if your gold, PLT Dia member of the hotel? I have tried to use the Amex fine hotels and resorts but the rates are not competitive. Reading through the T&C's it looks like you can try a BRG with Carlson WT.
I have booked hotels through the MC World Elite/Carlson program, though I haven't taken advantage of the 4th night free yet. Be advised that, like most Amex FHR bookings, the rate you will get through this program is generally equivalent to the best available FLEXIBLE rate that would be available directly from a property. So you may be able to find lower rates elsewhere that are non-refundable, promotional, or including some sort of discount (AAA, corporate, etc). You'll have to weigh what is included with the package when booking through Carlson against any lower rate you may find elsewhere.
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When do you think we'll need to apply by to be grandfathered into the original benefits?
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