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Q. Can I transfer Thank You points to airline programs?
A. Yes, but only from a TYP account tied to one of the following premium (fee-based) Citi cards:
Exception: Citi Preferred or Rewards+ cardholders can transfer to JetBlue at a less favorable rate (1000:500). They cannot transfer to other airline or hotel programs except as explained in the next paragraph .
Points earned through other cards -- such as the Citi Preferred or Rewards+ -- are eligible for transfer to airline programs, provided you also hold one of the premium cards listed above.
ThankYou Points earned through banking and customer service adjustments are called Taxable Points. Citi reports them as taxable when they are redeemed, not when they are earned. Citi does not allow Taxable Points to be Shared or Transferred, because they cannot determine a monetary value for those redemptions. However, the IT implementation of this policy may be imperfect. In 2015 one member was able to Transfer points earned through banking shortly after combining two ThankYou Rewards accounts. See posts 207-210, but no one has replicated this success.
Q. Which airline programs can I transfer TYP into?
A. TYP may be transferred 1:1 to these airline programs:
OneWorld
SkyTeam
Star Alliance
Independent
and to these hotel programs:
and to this retail program:
Q: After I transfer, when will my miles expire at that airline/hotel program? Is there anything I can do to avoid expiration there?
The Miles/Points that Do and Don't Expire wiki now lists all of the above Citi TYP airline/hotel transfer partners and their respective expiration policies.
Q. Are transfers instant?
A. Not necessarily. Although Citi's FAQ states that it may take up to fourteen days for the ThankYou Points to post to your participating travel loyalty program member account, anecdotal evidence suggests that many transfer times will be much shorter. A summary:
Q. Can I transfer to another person's airline or hotel program account?
A. Per the Citi FAQ,
We do not have many reports describing how strictly this rule is applied/enforced, nor any reports on workarounds. One FTer, in his first post ever, claimed success in transfering TYP to another person's Etihad (EY) account.
Keep in mind that TYP may be freely Shared with another TYP member's account (with the points expiring 90 days after transfer). If the recipient member has a transfer-eligible card (as described above), s/he can Transfer points to airline or hotel partners.
A. Yes, but only from a TYP account tied to one of the following premium (fee-based) Citi cards:
- Premier
- Prestige
- Chairman
Exception: Citi Preferred or Rewards+ cardholders can transfer to JetBlue at a less favorable rate (1000:500). They cannot transfer to other airline or hotel programs except as explained in the next paragraph .
Points earned through other cards -- such as the Citi Preferred or Rewards+ -- are eligible for transfer to airline programs, provided you also hold one of the premium cards listed above.
ThankYou Points earned through banking and customer service adjustments are called Taxable Points. Citi reports them as taxable when they are redeemed, not when they are earned. Citi does not allow Taxable Points to be Shared or Transferred, because they cannot determine a monetary value for those redemptions. However, the IT implementation of this policy may be imperfect. In 2015 one member was able to Transfer points earned through banking shortly after combining two ThankYou Rewards accounts. See posts 207-210, but no one has replicated this success.
Q. Which airline programs can I transfer TYP into?
A. TYP may be transferred 1:1 to these airline programs:
OneWorld
- Cathay Pacific Asia Miles (CX)
- Malaysia Airlines Enrich (MH)
- Qantas Frequent Flyer (QF)
- Qatar Airways Privilege Club (QR)
SkyTeam
- Aeromexico Club Premier
- Flying Blue: Air France (AF), KLM (KL) and others
- Garuda Indonesia GarudaMiles (GA)
- Virgin Atlantic (VS)
Star Alliance
- Avianca LifeMiles (AV)
- EVA Air Infinity MileageLands (BR)
- Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer (SQ)
- Thai Airways Royal Orchid Plus (TG)
- Turkish Airlines (TK)
Independent
- Etihad Guest (EY)
- Emirates Skywards (EK)
- Jet Airways (9W)
- jetBlue (B6) (TYP 1000 = 800 B6)
and to these hotel programs:
- ALL - Accor Live Limitless ( TYP 1000 = 500 ALL)
- Choice Privileges (TYP 1000 = 2000 Choice)
- Leading Hotels of the World Leaders Club (TYP 1000 = 200 LC)
- Wyndham Rewards
and to this retail program:
- Shop Your Way (Sears) (at ratio 1 TYP: 12 SYW)
Q: After I transfer, when will my miles expire at that airline/hotel program? Is there anything I can do to avoid expiration there?
The Miles/Points that Do and Don't Expire wiki now lists all of the above Citi TYP airline/hotel transfer partners and their respective expiration policies.
Q. Are transfers instant?
A. Not necessarily. Although Citi's FAQ states that it may take up to fourteen days for the ThankYou Points to post to your participating travel loyalty program member account, anecdotal evidence suggests that many transfer times will be much shorter. A summary:
- AF/KL: As of March 2016, instant. (Was previously 1-5 days.)
- AM:
- AV: Instant to ~5 days - mixed reports: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi...r-partner.html
- B6: Instant
- BR: One business day in theory, but see post 417
- CX: One business day
- EY: Reports and discussion HERE.
- FB: less than 4 hours (11/16/17 after I added 00 to the front of my FB number) Make sure you have a 12 digit number or transfer will die.
- GA:
- MH: Two days
- QF: Two days (per post 273). Eight per post 368. 36 hours per post 440. 23 hours per post 512. Less than 24 hrs per post 547.
- QR: 2 days per post 418
- SQ: Variable--anywhere from two business days (per post #120) to 2.5-3 calendar days (per post 382) to next day per post 287
- TG:
- TK: Took 16-24 hours to transfer (12/28/17). No fees.
- VS: As of March 2016, instant. (Was previously done overnight: report 1; report 2).
Q. Can I transfer to another person's airline or hotel program account?
A. Per the Citi FAQ,
No. The first and last names on both the ThankYou Member Account and the participating travel loyalty program member's account must match in order to transfer points using the Points Transfer feature.
Keep in mind that TYP may be freely Shared with another TYP member's account (with the points expiring 90 days after transfer). If the recipient member has a transfer-eligible card (as described above), s/he can Transfer points to airline or hotel partners.
Citi ThankYou Points (TYPs): airline and hotel transfer partners
#166
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Southern California
Programs: American Airlines
Posts: 88
#167
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: New York, NY
Programs: SPG Plat. AA Plat. UA Gold
Posts: 236
I asked about other new partners and was told that the other partners that show up as 'new' were Malaysia Airlines and Virgin Atlantic. Both of which we already know about.
Air Canada AeroPlan would definitely be a positive addition (as is any new partner really). Always better to have more choices.
#168
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend; Moderator: American Express, Capital One, Citi, Chase, Credit Card Programs, Diners Club, Signatures
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Qantas has been added to the redemption catalog:
https://www.thankyou.com/pointsTrans...itemId=1867669
https://www.thankyou.com/pointsTrans...itemId=1867669
#171
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania
Programs: Milege+, SkyMiles, AAdvantage, HHonors Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,684
Data Point
Data Point: Transferred 34K TYP to 51K HH points today. As soon as I logged out of Citi the points were showing on my HH account.
#172
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: DFW
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, Admirals Club, Global Entry
Posts: 1,139
So here's the value I see in Qantas transfers: domestic flights on American under 2400 miles roundtrip are 24,000 miles. That would cover DFW-DCA, for example. Barely.
Even there, you're better off just buying a ticket with points-for-cash (at 1.6 cents with the Prestige) since DFW-DCA is often more-or-less $400, I believe.
Am I missing something?
Even there, you're better off just buying a ticket with points-for-cash (at 1.6 cents with the Prestige) since DFW-DCA is often more-or-less $400, I believe.
Am I missing something?
#173
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: DFW
Programs: AA 1M
Posts: 31,437
So here's the value I see in Qantas transfers: domestic flights on American under 2400 miles roundtrip are 24,000 miles. That would cover DFW-DCA, for example. Barely.
Even there, you're better off just buying a ticket with points-for-cash (at 1.6 cents with the Prestige) since DFW-DCA is often more-or-less $400, I believe.
Am I missing something?
Even there, you're better off just buying a ticket with points-for-cash (at 1.6 cents with the Prestige) since DFW-DCA is often more-or-less $400, I believe.
Am I missing something?
#174
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AS, US, Hilton, BA, DL, SPG, AA, VS
Posts: 1,628
So here's the value I see in Qantas transfers: domestic flights on American under 2400 miles roundtrip are 24,000 miles. That would cover DFW-DCA, for example. Barely.
Even there, you're better off just buying a ticket with points-for-cash (at 1.6 cents with the Prestige) since DFW-DCA is often more-or-less $400, I believe.
Am I missing something?
Even there, you're better off just buying a ticket with points-for-cash (at 1.6 cents with the Prestige) since DFW-DCA is often more-or-less $400, I believe.
Am I missing something?
That happens to be my award goal so I'm thrilled that they've added QF, but if you're interested in something else, I don't see a great deal of value.
#175
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After joining QFF I can use the award search engine to show availability, and the number of points required, but not the cash co-payments. I think this is because I do not have sufficient points in my account. Is there a way to see the surcharges before transferring?
#176
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AS, US, Hilton, BA, DL, SPG, AA, VS
Posts: 1,628
No idea. By "rates" I was referring to the number of points/miles required for redemption, as opposed to YQ/fees. Sorry if I confused you.
#177
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 224
Data point on TYN to SQ Transfer:
Transfer initiated on 3/3/15 @ 10:30 AM PST
Miles deposited in SQ (new account) on 3/4/15 @ 8:50 AM PST
Miles could have been deposited even earlier sometime this morning. While not instantaneous, I am very happy with the 1 business day turnaround.
Transfer initiated on 3/3/15 @ 10:30 AM PST
Miles deposited in SQ (new account) on 3/4/15 @ 8:50 AM PST
Miles could have been deposited even earlier sometime this morning. While not instantaneous, I am very happy with the 1 business day turnaround.
#178
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: world
Programs: all
Posts: 1,422
Data point on TYN to SQ Transfer:
Transfer initiated on 3/3/15 @ 10:30 AM PST
Miles deposited in SQ (new account) on 3/4/15 @ 8:50 AM PST
Miles could have been deposited even earlier sometime this morning. While not instantaneous, I am very happy with the 1 business day turnaround.
Transfer initiated on 3/3/15 @ 10:30 AM PST
Miles deposited in SQ (new account) on 3/4/15 @ 8:50 AM PST
Miles could have been deposited even earlier sometime this morning. While not instantaneous, I am very happy with the 1 business day turnaround.
with SQ my experience has been 1-3 days too
#179
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Transferred a small amount of points from ms mia's ThankYou account to my own account. Verified that those points were set to expire earlier than any other points (90 days), made 1,000 point transfer to Virgin Atlantic. Verified that the points which had been transferred from her account to mine were used for the transfer.
Miles credited to Flying Club account overnight. Not as fast as transfers from American Express or Chase, but very good service.
Miles credited to Flying Club account overnight. Not as fast as transfers from American Express or Chase, but very good service.