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SEE NEW THREAD - 50K AA Cards


As of Sunday August 25, 2013:
Reports indicate personal cards can no longer be rapidly churned.

Click HERE to review the previous thread on this topic.

Recommended Application Procedure:
Clear cache and cookies prior to applying or use an incognito or private browsing session to apply. Opening multiple different apps in different windows or tabs or failing to clear cookies/cache has resulted in people receiving a lesser offer.

For information on the Executive version of this card, with $450 annual fee, not waived, see: Up to 100k miles Citi Executive AAdvantage offers

MOST CURRENT 50K LINKS:

Citi Personal and Business:50K miles & two Admirals Club one-day passes after $3000 spend in 3 months, $95 fee waived first year.

Citi AA Platinum Personal Mastercard, 50,000 miles after $3k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here. This is a CHIP and Signature card.

Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC requires $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to this application page.

OTHER PERSONAL CARDS

Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Up to $100 statement credit for AA purchases. Landing page available here.

Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year.

Citi Gold Mastercard. 25,000 miles after $750 spend in 3 months. $50 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here

If you are already a Citigold customer, read this post from the Miles Professor about another 50K offer from your branch office for the American Airlines credit card.

OTHER BUSINESS CARDS

Citi Business MasterCard. 40,000 miles after $3k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here.

Citi Business Mastercard. 35,000 miles after $1.5k spend in 3 months.

Citi Business Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here.

Citi Business Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Up to $100 statement credit for AA purchases. Landing page available here.


Citibank Contacts/Resources (Please add the others that you know)
  • Application status: https://www.accountonline.com/cards/...?screenID=3187
  • (800) 695-5171 – Personal Application Status and Reconsideration Line with live rep
  • (800) 763-9795 – General Personal Application Inquiries with live rep
  • (800) 645-7240 – Business Application Status and Reconsideration Line, dial option 3 then option 1 for application status
  • (800) 288-4653 – Business Application Status and Reconsideration Line, dial option 3 then option 1 for application status
  • (866) 606-2787 – General Application and Account Questions with live rep
  • (888) 201-4523 – Application status
  • (866) 606-2961 – Reconsideration Line.
  • Twitter : @AskCiti. Very powerful tool.
  • Executive Office - useful for getting a more empowered agent for reconsideration purposes: CitiBank Executive Review Department, P.O. Box 6000, Sioux Falls, SD 57117

FAQ
  1. Are these AA cards churnable?
  2. What are the most current time-restriction rules in applying for all Citi cards?
  3. Do I need to close existing cards before applying?
  4. When should I close existing Citi accounts?
  5. Can I apply for a business card if I don’t have a business?
  6. Can I buy Visa gift cards to meet my minimum spend?
  7. Do I get 10% back when redeeming miles for awards?
  8. Do I have to use my own AAdvantage number on applications?
  9. There is nothing on the application page stating the bonus miles. How do I know what I will be getting?
  10. When will my bonus miles post?
  11. I met the minimum spend. Why does my statement say "Miles Reported to AA: 0"?
  12. Can I cancel a card using secure messaging?
  13. I activated the card online and got a message about this card replacing an old card. What does that mean?
  14. Which credit bureau does Citi pull and can I force them to use a different one?

1. Are these AA cards churnable?
Yes and No. The general rules are:
  • Personal AA cards: As of August 25, 2013 all linked personal AA cards in this thread can be churned only after Citi decides that you are no longer an existing cardmember. This usually occurs between 12 and 26 months after your last successful AA personal card approval of any type including AA Executive card(s). If you want both a Platinum card and an Executive AA card and are eligible under the 12-26 month rule, get the Platinum card first or the Executive card will restart the clock. Although it is not a hard-and-fast rule, 18 months after previous approval is the most common. YMMV. You do not need to cancel old personal cards.
    • Note: You cannot circumvent this rule by applying for a card type different from your previous Citi AA card. If your last personal AA card was a Visa, the waiting period for your next personal AA card will be the same regardless of whether you apply for a Visa, MC, or Amex.

  • Business AA cards: have been churnable repeatedly by some people without restriction other than the general Citi application rules. Apply once every 91-95 days. For unknown reasons, some other people have been unable to churn business cards at all. Also, some (but not all) people need to completely cancel their previous business card (ie, cancel both the card account and the associated master account) before they can apply for another business card.

    Note: If you encounter difficulty in obtaining a Citi AA business card after holding one before, it may because of the unusual way Citi sets up business accounts. The business account per se has its own master number; like a standard MC/Visa, this master account number is 16 digits. In addition, each card on the account has its own 16-digit card number. Each of these numbers, including the number for the primary cardholder, is different from the master account number.

    Sometimes, when you call to close your card account, all the card numbers are canceled but the master account remains open. When this happens, subsequent applications for a business card may encounter difficulty. Online, there should be a dropdown of accounts under your business login; the number that match your card number is your card account, the number that does not match your card number is your master account. When cancelling, ask to cancel both accounts, giving the last 4 digts of each (as shown in that dropdown).


2. What are the most current time-restriction rules in applying for all Citi cards?
  • Only 1 Citi application of any kind per week (8 days to be safe).
  • No more than 2 Citi applications of any kind in 60 days (65 days to be safe).
  • No more than 1 Citi business application in 90 days (95 to be safe). This does not override the rules above.

While the day limits are a little flexible by a few days either way and YMMV, the rules themselves are not flexible. Note: In applying the rules above, count all Citi applications, including denials and/or applications for non-AA cards.

Mixed type Example:
Day 1 60K HHonors Visa
Day 9 or later 50K Personal Platinum Visa
Day 66 or later 50K Business #1
Day 74 or later 60K Executive
Day 161 or later 50K Business #2
18 Months, 74 days or later 50K Personal Platinum Visa

Not sure what day you applied? The date is written year, month, day in the application number: 201402280000 means you applied on Feb 28, 2014


3. Do I need to close existing cards before applying?
No. There is no requirement that you close previous personal accounts. People have reported having 4 or more of the exact same card. However, many people have reported problems getting AA Business cards if they have an open Business account.


4. When should I close existing Citi accounts?
This is a matter of personal preference. Citi cards can be closed immediately after receiving a bonus and paying off the balance. There are no verifiable reports of Citi clawing back miles (exception - miles were clawed back for returned merchandise around November 2011).

Reasons to keep accounts open:
  • Having large credit lines improves your utilization percentage.
  • Maintaining old cards improves average age of cards.
  • Credit lines can be moved from old cards to new cards.
  • Anecdotal evidence suggests that Citi counts the credit lines of recently-closed accounts for 3-6 months against your total available credit.
  • You can receive retention offers once every 6 months per card. See this thread for details on the latest retention offers.

Reasons to close accounts:
  • Having a large amount of available credit with Citi will eventually reduce your chances of instant approval. Your application will automatically be reviewed if your CL's total 75K or more. This may also result in a large disparity between existing account CL's and new CL's, such as 20K, 20K and 1K for a new card, as an example.
  • There is little incentive to pay an annual fee if it is not waived.
  • The annual fee on Business cards is rarely waived.
  • Having a large number of open Citi cards will show up on your credit report and may affect non-Citi applications as well as the overall age of your accounts.


5. Can I apply for a business card if I don’t have a business?
Anyone can apply for a business card. You do not need a registered business with an EIN. If you do not have a business with an EIN or with bills/accounts in the business name, you can apply using your name as the business. The three possibilities are that: 1. You could be approved unconditionally, 2. You could be asked to fax a couple of bills or accounts (water, electricity, gas, cable, or phone bills, bank accounts, etc.) in the name of the business to Citi, or 3. You could be required to fill out and send a 4506-T tax form. Whatever you do do not make up income etc. about the business. Plenty of people have been issued cards for businesses with $0 annual revenue, 1-5 employees, and 0 years in business.


6. Can I buy Visa gift cards to meet my minimum spend?
Purchases from banks are almost always coded as a cash advance regardless of what they are for. Purchases from stores, e.g. CVS, are almost always coded as a purchase.
If you are concerned about it, it’s recommended to send a secure message Citi and have them set your Cash Advance limit to zero. Phone CSRs often say they can not do this.


7. Do I get 10% back when redeeming miles for awards?
It depends. First, the rebate program (which began in April 2012) applies only to holders of these cards:
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage Visa Signature
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage World MasterCard
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard
  • Citi Select AAdvantage American Express
It does not apply to the Citi Gold World MasterCard, Citi Executive products, or some of the Citi Business cards.

Also, the maximum rebate for any cardholder in a single calendar year is 10,000 miles. Having more than one qualifying Citi AA card will not allow you to receive a larger rebate; the restriction applies per AAdvantage account.

For more on the 10% rebate benefit, see Citi 10% miles back / rebate for reward redemption.


8. Do I have to use my own AAdvantage number on applications?
Yes. The name on the card application must match the name on the AAdvantage account. You cannot apply for multiple cards for different people and use the same AAdvantage account number. AA does not care or even know how many Citi accounts you have so there is no harm in having your AAdvantage account number associated with multiple cards in your name. If you forget to add your AAdvantage account number to your application, an AAdvantage account in your name will be created and can later be merged with your existing account by calling AA.


9. There is nothing on the application page stating the bonus miles. How do I know what I will be getting?
You need to have faith in the people here if you want to maximize your miles. The people on this board constantly apply for these cards and report back what they are told are the benefits and what they actually receive. The way Citi works is that if you are approved for a card, you will get the bonus associated with the link you applied under as long as you make the minimum spend. It does not matter if you already had the card or anything else. If you are approved - then you get the bonus. The two exceptions to this are: 1. If you fail to clear your cache and accidentally load a cached application, you get the miles associated with that application and 2. Some people have recently succeeded in 'bumping the bonus' by contacting Citi and requesting a match to a 50K offer after applying for a 40K card. If you don't feel like trusting in the experiences of others, then apply for an offer with a landing page.


10. When will my bonus miles post?
Two working days after the date of the statement containing the charge that takes you across the spend threshold. It posts overnight, it'll be there when you check your AAdvantage account in the morning.


11. I met the minimum spend. Why does my statement say "Miles Reported to AA: 0"?
No one knows exactly why this is happening to some people (Citi blames AA, AA blames Citi, and both blame the merger). It supposedly has something to do with the time it takes them to properly link your AAdvantage number to your card. There are two ways to deal with this:
  • Wait 1-2 statement periods, and see if the points post on their own. Per Citi, it can take this long for the accounts to link.
  • Call AA (1-800-882-8880) and open a case about it. Most people have had their miles post within 2 weeks of doing this.

For ongoing discussion, see Some AA Citi Card miles not transferred to AAdvantage accounts [Q3 2013 - Q1 2014]


12. Can I cancel a card using secure messaging?
Yes, assuming you have set up the credit card in your Citi account. Quick and easy.


13. I activated the card online and got a message about this card replacing an old card. What does that mean?
When activating cards online, Citi normally displays the text:

"This account replaces your old account, which is now closed. Statements for your old account will be available for up to 6 months. Your current account summary and unbilled transactions are now listed under your new account number."
This is normal and is supposed to be displayed when activating a replacement card but it seems to display even when activating a brand new card. This is nothing to worry about.


14. Which credit bureau does Citi pull and can I force them to use a different one?
Citi appears to use Experian most frequently, followed by Equifax. For some people they pull both. It depends on where you are located. You can check the Credit Boards database to see where card issuers have pulled recently.

For the most part, freezing Experian, or another bureau, will not cause Citi to pull a different bureau. They will almost certainly require you to unfreeze the bureau they wish to pull or deny your application. Some people have been successful providing the PIN but others have not. Mostly, freezing a credit bureau in an attempt to force Citi to pull a different one seems to waste time, money, and effort for little result. But YMMV.

For one person's experiences with various card issuers, check here.


For rules and info on any offers that include Admirals club passes or statement credits, see here.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by cakelover
I have Citi/AA card in 2013 and cancelled about 3 months ago. Today, I applied online today and got rejected. Can I apply for Business card today? Or shall I wait til the 9th day? I tweet Citi and they said you can apply multiple cards on the same day.
Current wisdom is you need to wait a week between applications regardless of the result of the first application. Most people recommend 8 days.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 12:45 pm
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Welcome to FT!

A) You could try to call and see if they will match the 60K targeted offer.
B) Because it is targeted, you may be able to apply for it a week (8+ days) after your last Citi application.

If you are approved, you will get the points if you make the spend. That is how Citi works. The card itself normally shows up a few days after the welcome packet, usually 8-10 days after approval.

Originally Posted by dsuday
First time applied for a Citi AAdvantage Platinum card with the 50,000 bonus offer a week back. Got the welcome letter and but no card received yet.
Today I get a targeted offer for Citi AAdvantage Gold with limited time offer of 60K points (50K for $1500/- spend in 3 months, bonus 10,000 for $5000/- in 12 months).
Obviously this is a better offer. I have not applied yet.
a) If I apply for this , will I get approval and the miles (60K added to the 50K from the Platinum card).
b) Or if I cannot, can I ask Citi to match this offer on my card already approved ?

The language says"If you are an existing Citi/AAdvantage card member, you are not eligible for this offer on your existing account". This is different than the "This Citi® / AAdvantage® card offer is only valid for new applicants for a Citi® / AAdvantage® account made pursuant to this offer and is not available to existing cardmembers or recent applicants for a Citi® / AAdvantage® credit card."

Holding on to the hope that this implies I may not get points on the previous application, but may get this if I am applying for this new card.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by yoyo
Would a quick followup application for the HH on the same day resulted in a single merged pull?
You obviously need to learn the rules on Citicards application.

Originally Posted by ninim2200
i thought you cannot have 2 applications within 8 days from each other.(8/65)?
Correct.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
It was never 18 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

For years and years and years, it's been 12 to 18 to 26 months. In others words, YMMV, and 18 months is simply the peak of the bell curve. But many people need more time between approvals, and some people need less time. And even for the same person, it can vary from application to the next.

Please read up on bell curves (as the term is used in statistics) so that you'll understand what this means. Thanks.

(Citi doesn't publish these rules. We figure them out over the long term from compiling tons of reported datapoints posted on FT.)
I think most everyone knows the 18 months are just the biggest concentration of the needed time lapse... and I am sure the poster knows what Bell Curve meant...

There is NO NEED for an UMPTEEN repeat of explanation each time someone mentioned the 18 months...

For those who dont understand that it is not a set in stone rule but just based on empirical data, so be it..

But if you enjoy correcting others lose usage of the "18 months", go right ahead even though others may feel tired reading the same thing being repeat and repeat and repeat however many times, keep on posting...
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 5:04 pm
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Originally Posted by IkeEsq
Originally Posted by ninim2200
It says that the Card offer is not available for existing card members, you would need to close your account so you can apply for another card.
...If you have no idea what you are talking about please try to refrain from making things up.
I agree. This isn't the first time ninim2200 has made baseless claims.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 6:46 pm
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Originally Posted by IkeEsq
Welcome to FT!

A) You could try to call and see if they will match the 60K targeted offer.
B) Because it is targeted, you may be able to apply for it a week (8+ days) after your last Citi application.

If you are approved, you will get the points if you make the spend. That is how Citi works. The card itself normally shows up a few days after the welcome packet, usually 8-10 days after approval.
Thanks IkeEsq, tried Option A) to no avail as they said the offer is for a different card (Gold) to what I have (Platinum). They were not willing to match the offer.
I will wait for a week and try the Option B), and hope it works.

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Old Nov 15, 2014, 9:38 pm
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Originally Posted by IkeEsq
NO. You do NOT need to close the existing account. That language has been in these card applications for years and thousands of people on this forum have gotten cards with that language in the application while holding existing identical cards.

If you have no idea what you are talking about please try to refrain from making things up.
I can confirm what Ike is saying. I applied (and was approved) for a new card yesterday, despite being an existing cardmember and not cancelling my account. It had been 31 months since I opened my account, however.

Thanks for the advice, Ike!
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Old Nov 16, 2014, 6:28 am
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Originally Posted by SeeBuyFly
I agree. This isn't the first time ninim2200 has made baseless claims.
That phrase was explaining the language on the card application, not your previous experiences which are always changing, evident by the recent difficulties in churning business cards as well as personal and the new additional language on the exec card that has prevented multiple people from getting their bonuses even after their approval for the card. The so called rules are always evolving, you should know that by now.
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Old Nov 16, 2014, 7:59 am
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Business card churning is always YMMV. It is not new just recently

As far as I know, for those people who didn't receive their bonus, they applied through a broken link. Did you see any that applied through other links, got approved but didn't receive bonus? Otherwise you concluded to soon.

Personally, several days ago, I applied and was approved my 2nd business card using the public link from aa, which does have languages such as bonus only for first time applicant but I still got confirmed the bonus.

Originally Posted by ninim2200
That phrase was explaining the language on the card application, not your previous experiences which are always changing, evident by the recent difficulties in churning business cards as well as personal and the new additional language on the exec card that has prevented multiple people from getting their bonuses even after their approval for the card. The so called rules are always evolving, you should know that by now.
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Old Nov 16, 2014, 8:10 am
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I think most everyone knows the 18 months are just the biggest concentration of the needed time lapse... and I am sure the poster knows what Bell Curve meant...
Please read the post I was replying to. That poster didn't just "mention" 18 months. The poster get denied at 18 months, and jumped to the conclusion that 18 months doesn't work at all anymore and therefore that some new timing threshold must be required. So they obviously didn't understand what "18 months" meant, nor did they seem to understand at all that the timing has always been YMMV.
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Old Nov 16, 2014, 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by ninim2200
That phrase was explaining the language on the card application, not your previous experiences which are always changing, evident by the recent difficulties in churning business cards as well as personal and the new additional language on the exec card that has prevented multiple people from getting their bonuses even after their approval for the card. The so called rules are always evolving, you should know that by now.
Read the post above yours. Things are not changing as much as you think. The only thing that's definitely changing (about AA personal, anyway) is that there is more specific made-up rules coming out CSRs mouths than there used to be.

And going from YMMV to YMMV is not a change!!!

The post right above yours shows that it still works as we expect: Still having an AA card, but 31 months since last approval for one, and no problem getting approved for another one.
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Old Nov 16, 2014, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by mxhjustin
Business card churning is always YMMV. It is not new just recently

As far as I know, for those people who didn't receive their bonus, they applied through a broken link. Did you see any that applied through other links, got approved but didn't receive bonus? Otherwise you concluded to soon.

Personally, several days ago, I applied and was approved my 2nd business card using the public link from aa, which does have languages such as bonus only for first time applicant but I still got confirmed the bonus.
As far as people not getting their bonuses we have seen multiple people using the public offer for the exec card on citi.com website which has this language

American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles not available if you have had a Citi Executive®/AAdvantage® World EliteTM MasterCard® opened or closed in the past 18 months.

anyone used that link and had an exec card didn't get the bonus. It was NOT a broken link, its the citi public offer for the exec card.
as far as the other links,I added these links to the wiki of the exec card and i know they work, but not all links work the same way, there are two formats of Citi exec card forms and the results will vary.
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Old Nov 16, 2014, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
Please read the post I was replying to. That poster didn't just "mention" 18 months. The poster get denied at 18 months, and jumped to the conclusion that 18 months doesn't work at all anymore and therefore that some new timing threshold must be required. So they obviously didn't understand what "18 months" meant, nor did they seem to understand at all that the timing has always been YMMV.
I said that leave those posters alone - it no longer works for them because it failed, and they need a new "guideline" - so for those who cannot get approved at 18th, it is indeed a number not working any more. What is wrong with that? or rather, with you, that you insist to correct everyone who does not EXPLICITLY say it is YMMV? Just let it go!
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Old Nov 16, 2014, 7:05 pm
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Originally Posted by ninim2200
As far as people not getting their bonuses we have seen multiple people using the public offer for the exec card on citi.com website which has this language

American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles not available if you have had a Citi Executive®/AAdvantage® World EliteTM MasterCard® opened or closed in the past 18 months.

anyone used that link and had an exec card didn't get the bonus. It was NOT a broken link, its the citi public offer for the exec card.
as far as the other links,I added these links to the wiki of the exec card and i know they work, but not all links work the same way, there are two formats of Citi exec card forms and the results will vary.
I suspect there are also 2 formats of citi personal cards - the one with 2 passes definitely is poisonous. It also has a different look of application page. the one without passes, still pulls up the OLD format of application page, MIGHT work better. Just sayin. I wish I have used that one instead of the one with the new application look (btw, the new format does not allow you to open the next box until you fill out the box above it. It also does not ask your residence situation, own or rent.)
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Old Nov 16, 2014, 8:15 pm
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Originally Posted by ninim2200
That phrase was explaining the language on the card application, not your previous experiences which are always changing, evident by the recent difficulties in churning business cards as well as personal and the new additional language on the exec card that has prevented multiple people from getting their bonuses even after their approval for the card. The so called rules are always evolving, you should know that by now.
No, it was making up a wholly incorrect interpretation of the language in question without any basis in fact. As stated, that language is not new and has NEVER meant what you claimed it meant.

Business cards have always been YMMV and I have not seen anything recently that suggests anything has changed. What would be indicative of a change is if people like SeeBuyFly or my wife and I---who have gotten multiple business cards with existing ones open---started getting denied for previously holding business cards. However, when people try for their second card and fail they fall pretty easily into the existing scheme as we understand it.

There has been no obvious change in Personal cards, other than pointless CSR babble. Someone got one in 14 months, others denied at 18 months, no one has mentioned being denied after 26 months.

Executive cards are a different breed in almost every sense. That is why they have their own thread, because the rules are different.

The rules are not exactly 'always evolving' they are occasionally making jumps, sometimes forward, sometimes backward. Two apps a day, one app a day, one app a week, but always two per 60 days. One per 12-18-26 months, no limit, one per 12-18-26 months.

Some things though, like not having to close personal cards before applying for new personal cards and the 60 and 90 day rules have not changed in years.
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