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Limited-time offers
Hilton HHonors American Express card. 80,000 points for spending $2,000 in 3 months; no annual fee. Ends May 31, 2017
Hilton HHonors American Express Ascend card. 100,000 points for spending $3,000 ; $95 annual fee.
Hilton HHonors American Express card application page. 75,000 points for spending $1,000 in 3 months; no annual fee.
Public offer expired Feb 1, 2017 (this link brings up a page: "This campaign has expired. Thank you for your interest."), but Refer a Friend links still active. This one has the referral ID stripped out.
Citi HH Visa 40K application page (spend $1K/4 mos.)
Ongoing offersPublic offer expired Feb 1, 2017 (this link brings up a page: "This campaign has expired. Thank you for your interest."), but Refer a Friend links still active. This one has the referral ID stripped out.
Citi HH Visa 40K application page (spend $1K/4 mos.)
- This offer does not contain an explicit 24-month restriction.
If you apply using this link & are not instantly approved, DO NOT CALL CITI.
Calling in risks alerting Citi to the offer and having it withdrawn.
Amex HH Surpass Card
FlyerTalk discussion thread: The Hilton HHonors Surpass(SM) Card from American Express Citi Hilton HHonors Reserve Card
Flyertalk discussion thread: Citi Hilton HHonors Reserve Card Citi HH Visa 60K application page. You can also apply by calling 1-866-615-2274.
Flyertalk discussion thread: Citi Hilton HHonors VISA [60k-75k, read Wiki to choose] Basic Amex HH Card
FAQ- Annual fee: $75, no first-year waiver.
- Signup bonus: 75K points for spending $3K in the first 3 months.
- Earning: 12 HHonors points per dollar on Hilton spend; 6 points/$ at U.S. restaurants, supermarkets & gas stations; and 3 points/$ on everything else.
- Elite status: Hilton Gold status for as long as you have the card and Diamond status after $40,000 in annual spend.
- Booking bonus: 500 bonus points for every stay (including award stays) booked directly with Hilton & guaranteed with the card
- Important limitation on this offer: "Welcome bonus offer not available to applicants who have or have had this product."
FlyerTalk discussion thread: The Hilton HHonors Surpass(SM) Card from American Express
- Annual fee: $95, no first-year waiver.
- Signup bonus: 2 free weekend nights after $2500 in spend within four months. These free nights are valid at all Hilton redemption categories, including Waldorf Astoria properties.
- Anniversary bonus: 1 free weekend night each year after $10,000 in spend.
- Earning: 10 HHonors points per dollar on Hilton spend, 5 points per dollar on air and car rental, and 3 on everything else.
- Elite status: Hilton Gold status for as long as you have the card and Diamond status after $40,000 in annual spend.
- No foreign currency transaction fees.
- Important limitation on this offer: "Weekend Night Certificates offer is not available if you have had a Citi Hilton HHonors Card account that was opened or closed in the past 24 months.."
Flyertalk discussion thread: Citi Hilton HHonors Reserve Card
- No annual fee.
- Signup bonus: 60K points for spending $1K in the first 4 months
- Earning: 6 HHonors points per dollar on Hilton spend; 3 points/$ at U.S. supermarkets, drugstores & gas stations; and 2 points/$ on everything else.
- Elite status: Hilton Silver status for as long as you have the card.
- Fast track To Gold status: After four qualifying stays within your first 91 days of cardmembership, receive Gold status through the end of the following calendar year.
- Important limitation on this offer: "Hilton HHonors Bonus Points offer not available if you have had a Citi Hilton HHonors Visa Signature Card account that was opened or closed in the past 24 months."
Flyertalk discussion thread: Citi Hilton HHonors VISA [60k-75k, read Wiki to choose]
Offer for 50K points (spend $750/3mos.) + $50 credit for first purchase: Make a dummy reservation on Hilton site. Offer will appear on page before final booking. (Cannot be linked to directly.)
Offer for 50K points (spend $750/3mos.)
Offer for 50K points (spend $750/3mos.)
- No annual fee.
- Earning: 7 HHonors points per dollar on Hilton spend; 5 points/$ at U.S. restaurants, supermarkets & gas stations; and 3 on everything else.
- Elite status: Hilton Silver status for as long as you have the card and Gold status after $20,000 in annual spend.
- Booking bonus: 500 bonus points for every stay (including award stays) booked directly with Hilton & guaranteed with the card
1. Are these cards churnable?
As of May 1, 2014, Amex will not give a signup bonus to card applicants who have held the card in the past ~7 years, even if the applicant has never earned a previous signup bonus for it. However, it is still possible to upgrade an existing Hilton Amex to the Surpass card to earn a bonus (and reportedly to do this more than once by later downgrading & then upgrading again). The best strategy is to earn a Surpass signup bonus first, and only afterward pursue the upgrade bonus(es).
In August 2016, Citi began inserting language into applications and landing pages requiring a 24-month wait from the date of the opening or closure of any Citi Hilton card. Previously, the Citi Hilton Signature Visa and Reserve cards were on separate clocks for each applicant. Now there is a single 24-month clock reset by open/close of either type of card. For more info, see the wiki at Citi Hilton HHonors VISA [60k-75k, read Wiki to choose].
2. I have met the spending. When will my bonus post?
For Amex cards, the bonus will post a few days after meeting the spend. The points from the actual spend will post after statement is generated. For Citi products, bonus points post only at statement close.
3. What happened to the Amex drugstore category spending bonus?
Changes to Hilton Amex cards as of May 2013 are explained here:
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfr...at-we-thought/
4. What is the link to upgrade from no fee card to Surpass card for 50,000 after spending $3,000 in the first 3 months?
This link redirects to this landing page. Application page.
You need to be logged into your Amex account first, then click on the link above, then click Upgrade. (This does not work for all people. It is suspected that only people that have had the no-fee card for at least one year are able to upgrade to the Surpass card.) There is generally no hard pull on your credit report for upgrading.
5. Does having one of these Hilton cards preclude me from successfully earning the signup bonus on a different one?
No. All four cards are separate products. Having (or having previously had) one of them has no effect on your bonus eligibility for the others--but note, as discussed in FAQ #1, that opening or closing any Citi Hilton card will affect your eligibility for any new Citi Hilton card bonus.
As of May 1, 2014, Amex will not give a signup bonus to card applicants who have held the card in the past ~7 years, even if the applicant has never earned a previous signup bonus for it. However, it is still possible to upgrade an existing Hilton Amex to the Surpass card to earn a bonus (and reportedly to do this more than once by later downgrading & then upgrading again). The best strategy is to earn a Surpass signup bonus first, and only afterward pursue the upgrade bonus(es).
In August 2016, Citi began inserting language into applications and landing pages requiring a 24-month wait from the date of the opening or closure of any Citi Hilton card. Previously, the Citi Hilton Signature Visa and Reserve cards were on separate clocks for each applicant. Now there is a single 24-month clock reset by open/close of either type of card. For more info, see the wiki at Citi Hilton HHonors VISA [60k-75k, read Wiki to choose].
2. I have met the spending. When will my bonus post?
For Amex cards, the bonus will post a few days after meeting the spend. The points from the actual spend will post after statement is generated. For Citi products, bonus points post only at statement close.
3. What happened to the Amex drugstore category spending bonus?
Changes to Hilton Amex cards as of May 2013 are explained here:
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfr...at-we-thought/
4. What is the link to upgrade from no fee card to Surpass card for 50,000 after spending $3,000 in the first 3 months?
This link redirects to this landing page. Application page.
You need to be logged into your Amex account first, then click on the link above, then click Upgrade. (This does not work for all people. It is suspected that only people that have had the no-fee card for at least one year are able to upgrade to the Surpass card.) There is generally no hard pull on your credit report for upgrading.
5. Does having one of these Hilton cards preclude me from successfully earning the signup bonus on a different one?
No. All four cards are separate products. Having (or having previously had) one of them has no effect on your bonus eligibility for the others--but note, as discussed in FAQ #1, that opening or closing any Citi Hilton card will affect your eligibility for any new Citi Hilton card bonus.
Ongoing offers for Hilton cards issued by Amex or Citi
Apr 3, 16, 12:20 pm
#916
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Hilton Diamond, Citi-Prestige,
Posts: 131
Have your wife log in to see her balance and see if there is an offer at the top to Upgrade to the Surpass for 100,000 points after 3k spend
Apr 5, 16, 1:33 pm
#917
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: AA - EP, Marriott - PP
Posts: 227
Please forgive me if this question is more appropriate in the Amex forum, but I thought it applies here as well.
Are there any Amex specific rules I need to know before applying for both the no-fee and Surpass cards (i.e. maximum applications allowed in a day or week)? I'm inclined to follow the advise up thread about looking at both offers separately. If it matters I've never had either of them and have one existing Amex card in my name (but I'm an authorized user on a second).
Are there any Amex specific rules I need to know before applying for both the no-fee and Surpass cards (i.e. maximum applications allowed in a day or week)? I'm inclined to follow the advise up thread about looking at both offers separately. If it matters I've never had either of them and have one existing Amex card in my name (but I'm an authorized user on a second).
Apr 5, 16, 2:44 pm
#918
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend; Moderator: American Express, Capital One, Citi, Chase, Credit Card Programs, Diners Club, Signatures
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Miami, Mpls & London
Programs: AA & Marriott Perpetual Platinum; DL & HH Gold
Posts: 48,231
Apr 7, 16, 9:08 am
#919
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: AA - EP, Marriott - PP
Posts: 227
Please forgive me if this question is more appropriate in the Amex forum, but I thought it applies here as well.
Are there any Amex specific rules I need to know before applying for both the no-fee and Surpass cards (i.e. maximum applications allowed in a day or week)? I'm inclined to follow the advise up thread about looking at both offers separately. If it matters I've never had either of them and have one existing Amex card in my name (but I'm an authorized user on a second).
Are there any Amex specific rules I need to know before applying for both the no-fee and Surpass cards (i.e. maximum applications allowed in a day or week)? I'm inclined to follow the advise up thread about looking at both offers separately. If it matters I've never had either of them and have one existing Amex card in my name (but I'm an authorized user on a second).
Apr 7, 16, 9:43 am
#920
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,784
Apr 8, 16, 8:40 am
#922
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 7,984
The bad news keeps coming: terms in several of the Citi offers have changed from an 18-month churn limit to a 24-month limit.
I'll try to go through the wiki a bit later this morning to fully assess the damage & update accordingly.
EDIT: Wiki fully updated. Dead links pruned, new T&C flagged. It isn't pretty.
I'll try to go through the wiki a bit later this morning to fully assess the damage & update accordingly.
EDIT: Wiki fully updated. Dead links pruned, new T&C flagged. It isn't pretty.
Last edited by beltway; Apr 8, 16 at 10:30 am
Apr 8, 16, 9:38 am
#923
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,784
You can't product change from a no fee card to an AF card within the first year. But AFAIK, it doesn't prevent you from applying for a no fee card if you have recently gotten a fee card. I don't pretend to totally understand what is probably a 6000 page piece of legislation though. Perhaps it only applies to upgrading a card, and not to applying for a different but related card. IDK.
I do know that when I had a regular card open less than a year, AMEX wouldn't allow me to even see the app page for the Surpass. It was blocked from even showing up, Chinese government style.
But I was able to successfully apply for a Surpass by using Private Browser, when apparently AMEX didn't identify me as having a regular HH card open. That was a year or so ago, so I don't know if it still works...
Apr 8, 16, 10:28 am
#924
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 72
Click the application links for Citi cards this morning and see the 24 months limit instead of 18 months.
Apr 8, 16, 1:39 pm
#925
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 329
I applied last week under the 18 month language! I was instantly approved, but FML! I have a feeling Citi is not going to honor it when it comes time to posting the certificates.
I haven't even got the card in the mail yet. I know for a fact it said 18 months because I was specifically looking for the language.
It's been about 22 - 23 months.
I specifically wanted to make sure I was months past the 18 mark since Citi doesn't always calculate properly. Now I wish I would have waited just a few more months!
I haven't even got the card in the mail yet. I know for a fact it said 18 months because I was specifically looking for the language.
It's been about 22 - 23 months.
I specifically wanted to make sure I was months past the 18 mark since Citi doesn't always calculate properly. Now I wish I would have waited just a few more months!
Apr 8, 16, 2:12 pm
#926
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 7,984
I applied last week under the 18 month language! I was instantly approved, but FML! I have a feeling Citi is not going to honor it when it comes time to posting the certificates.
I haven't even got the card in the mail yet. I know for a fact it said 18 months because I was specifically looking for the language.
It's been about 22 - 23 months. I specifically wanted to make sure I was months past the 18 mark since Citi doesn't always calculate properly. Now I wish I would have waited just a few more months!
I haven't even got the card in the mail yet. I know for a fact it said 18 months because I was specifically looking for the language.
It's been about 22 - 23 months.
I specifically wanted to make sure I was months past the 18 mark since Citi doesn't always calculate properly. Now I wish I would have waited just a few more months!
Apr 8, 16, 2:32 pm
#927
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 329
Thanks! That makes me feel better.
Pheww! Yes, I applied then perfect timing if this goes through. I wanted to line it up with my 1st Reserve card so I can get 2 certificates per year.
My SO has 2 cards as well (had him apply at the same time) so each time around this year, we'll get 4 free night certificates as long as we meet the spending requirement on each card.
Pheww! Yes, I applied then perfect timing if this goes through. I wanted to line it up with my 1st Reserve card so I can get 2 certificates per year.
My SO has 2 cards as well (had him apply at the same time) so each time around this year, we'll get 4 free night certificates as long as we meet the spending requirement on each card.
Apr 8, 16, 2:54 pm
#928
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: DCA/RIC
Programs: HH LTD, AA LTG
Posts: 1,015
The bad news keeps coming: terms in several of the Citi offers have changed from an 18-month churn limit to a 24-month limit.
I'll try to go through the wiki a bit later this morning to fully assess the damage & update accordingly.
EDIT: Wiki fully updated. Dead links pruned, new T&C flagged. It isn't pretty.
I'll try to go through the wiki a bit later this morning to fully assess the damage & update accordingly.
EDIT: Wiki fully updated. Dead links pruned, new T&C flagged. It isn't pretty.
Apr 8, 16, 3:06 pm
#929
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: DCA/RIC
Programs: HH LTD, AA LTG
Posts: 1,015
In fact I think the Card Act is what I was referring to. Why do you say "confusing"?
You can't product change from a no fee card to an AF card within the first year. But AFAIK, it doesn't prevent you from applying for a no fee card if you have recently gotten a fee card.
You can't product change from a no fee card to an AF card within the first year. But AFAIK, it doesn't prevent you from applying for a no fee card if you have recently gotten a fee card.
Apr 8, 16, 4:26 pm
#930
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 530
applied when 75k offer was working with 18 month terms. Until yesterday, the app was "processing". Today, it got suspended. I was told I should get something in the mail hummm
