Jun 12, 2013, 11:05 am
Last edit by: vah4883
Limited-time offers
Hilton HHonors American Express card. 80,000 points for spending $2,000 in 3 months; no annual fee. Ends May 31, 2017
Hilton HHonors American Express Ascend card. 100,000 points for spending $3,000 ; $95 annual fee.
Hilton HHonors American Express card application page. 75,000 points for spending $1,000 in 3 months; no annual fee.
Public offer expired Feb 1, 2017 (this link brings up a page: "This campaign has expired. Thank you for your interest."), but Refer a Friend links still active. This one has the referral ID stripped out.
Citi HH Visa 40K application page (spend $1K/4 mos.)
Ongoing offersPublic offer expired Feb 1, 2017 (this link brings up a page: "This campaign has expired. Thank you for your interest."), but Refer a Friend links still active. This one has the referral ID stripped out.
Citi HH Visa 40K application page (spend $1K/4 mos.)
- This offer does not contain an explicit 24-month restriction.
If you apply using this link & are not instantly approved, DO NOT CALL CITI.
Calling in risks alerting Citi to the offer and having it withdrawn.
Amex HH Surpass Card
FlyerTalk discussion thread: The Hilton HHonorsŪ Surpass(SM) Card from American Express Citi Hilton HHonors Reserve Card
Flyertalk discussion thread: Citi Hilton HHonors Reserve Card Citi HH Visa 60K application page. You can also apply by calling 1-866-615-2274.
Flyertalk discussion thread: Citi Hilton HHonors VISA [60k-75k, read Wiki to choose] Basic Amex HH Card
FAQ- Annual fee: $75, no first-year waiver.
- Signup bonus: 75K points for spending $3K in the first 3 months.
- Earning: 12 HHonors points per dollar on Hilton spend; 6 points/$ at U.S. restaurants, supermarkets & gas stations; and 3 points/$ on everything else.
- Elite status: Hilton Gold status for as long as you have the card and Diamond status after $40,000 in annual spend.
- Booking bonus: 500 bonus points for every stay (including award stays) booked directly with Hilton & guaranteed with the card
- Important limitation on this offer: "Welcome bonus offer not available to applicants who have or have had this product."
FlyerTalk discussion thread: The Hilton HHonorsŪ Surpass(SM) Card from American Express
- Annual fee: $95, no first-year waiver.
- Signup bonus: 2 free weekend nights after $2500 in spend within four months. These free nights are valid at all Hilton redemption categories, including Waldorf Astoria properties.
- Anniversary bonus: 1 free weekend night each year after $10,000 in spend.
- Earning: 10 HHonors points per dollar on Hilton spend, 5 points per dollar on air and car rental, and 3 on everything else.
- Elite status: Hilton Gold status for as long as you have the card and Diamond status after $40,000 in annual spend.
- No foreign currency transaction fees.
- Important limitation on this offer: "Weekend Night Certificates offer is not available if you have had a Citi Hilton HHonors Card account that was opened or closed in the past 24 months.."
Flyertalk discussion thread: Citi Hilton HHonors Reserve Card
- No annual fee.
- Signup bonus: 60K points for spending $1K in the first 4 months
- Earning: 6 HHonors points per dollar on Hilton spend; 3 points/$ at U.S. supermarkets, drugstores & gas stations; and 2 points/$ on everything else.
- Elite status: Hilton Silver status for as long as you have the card.
- Fast track To Gold status: After four qualifying stays within your first 91 days of cardmembership, receive Gold status through the end of the following calendar year.
- Important limitation on this offer: "Hilton HHonors Bonus Points offer not available if you have had a Citi Hilton HHonors Visa Signature Card account that was opened or closed in the past 24 months."
Flyertalk discussion thread: Citi Hilton HHonors VISA [60k-75k, read Wiki to choose]
Offer for 50K points (spend $750/3mos.) + $50 credit for first purchase: Make a dummy reservation on Hilton site. Offer will appear on page before final booking. (Cannot be linked to directly.)
Offer for 50K points (spend $750/3mos.)
Offer for 50K points (spend $750/3mos.)
- No annual fee.
- Earning: 7 HHonors points per dollar on Hilton spend; 5 points/$ at U.S. restaurants, supermarkets & gas stations; and 3 on everything else.
- Elite status: Hilton Silver status for as long as you have the card and Gold status after $20,000 in annual spend.
- Booking bonus: 500 bonus points for every stay (including award stays) booked directly with Hilton & guaranteed with the card
1. Are these cards churnable?
As of May 1, 2014, Amex will not give a signup bonus to card applicants who have held the card in the past ~7 years, even if the applicant has never earned a previous signup bonus for it. However, it is still possible to upgrade an existing Hilton Amex to the Surpass card to earn a bonus (and reportedly to do this more than once by later downgrading & then upgrading again). The best strategy is to earn a Surpass signup bonus first, and only afterward pursue the upgrade bonus(es).
In August 2016, Citi began inserting language into applications and landing pages requiring a 24-month wait from the date of the opening or closure of any Citi Hilton card. Previously, the Citi Hilton Signature Visa and Reserve cards were on separate clocks for each applicant. Now there is a single 24-month clock reset by open/close of either type of card. For more info, see the wiki at Citi Hilton HHonors VISA [60k-75k, read Wiki to choose].
2. I have met the spending. When will my bonus post?
For Amex cards, the bonus will post a few days after meeting the spend. The points from the actual spend will post after statement is generated. For Citi products, bonus points post only at statement close.
3. What happened to the Amex drugstore category spending bonus?
Changes to Hilton Amex cards as of May 2013 are explained here:
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfr...at-we-thought/
4. What is the link to upgrade from no fee card to Surpass card for 50,000 after spending $3,000 in the first 3 months?
This link redirects to this landing page. Application page.
You need to be logged into your Amex account first, then click on the link above, then click Upgrade. (This does not work for all people. It is suspected that only people that have had the no-fee card for at least one year are able to upgrade to the Surpass card.) There is generally no hard pull on your credit report for upgrading.
5. Does having one of these Hilton cards preclude me from successfully earning the signup bonus on a different one?
No. All four cards are separate products. Having (or having previously had) one of them has no effect on your bonus eligibility for the others--but note, as discussed in FAQ #1, that opening or closing any Citi Hilton card will affect your eligibility for any new Citi Hilton card bonus.
As of May 1, 2014, Amex will not give a signup bonus to card applicants who have held the card in the past ~7 years, even if the applicant has never earned a previous signup bonus for it. However, it is still possible to upgrade an existing Hilton Amex to the Surpass card to earn a bonus (and reportedly to do this more than once by later downgrading & then upgrading again). The best strategy is to earn a Surpass signup bonus first, and only afterward pursue the upgrade bonus(es).
In August 2016, Citi began inserting language into applications and landing pages requiring a 24-month wait from the date of the opening or closure of any Citi Hilton card. Previously, the Citi Hilton Signature Visa and Reserve cards were on separate clocks for each applicant. Now there is a single 24-month clock reset by open/close of either type of card. For more info, see the wiki at Citi Hilton HHonors VISA [60k-75k, read Wiki to choose].
2. I have met the spending. When will my bonus post?
For Amex cards, the bonus will post a few days after meeting the spend. The points from the actual spend will post after statement is generated. For Citi products, bonus points post only at statement close.
3. What happened to the Amex drugstore category spending bonus?
Changes to Hilton Amex cards as of May 2013 are explained here:
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfr...at-we-thought/
4. What is the link to upgrade from no fee card to Surpass card for 50,000 after spending $3,000 in the first 3 months?
This link redirects to this landing page. Application page.
You need to be logged into your Amex account first, then click on the link above, then click Upgrade. (This does not work for all people. It is suspected that only people that have had the no-fee card for at least one year are able to upgrade to the Surpass card.) There is generally no hard pull on your credit report for upgrading.
5. Does having one of these Hilton cards preclude me from successfully earning the signup bonus on a different one?
No. All four cards are separate products. Having (or having previously had) one of them has no effect on your bonus eligibility for the others--but note, as discussed in FAQ #1, that opening or closing any Citi Hilton card will affect your eligibility for any new Citi Hilton card bonus.
Ongoing offers for Hilton cards issued by Amex or Citi
--- and --- If could do MS--- I would first select cards that give more bang for the ms effort
Jun 7, 2014, 7:58 pm
#393
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,760
I remember after the anniversary of my current no fee HHonors, I got email from AMEX on invitation to upgrade. Wasn't interested back then as my gold status will not expire until Mar 2015.
Jun 8, 2014, 9:45 am
#394
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 3,677
I've spent a lot of time studying, and done quite a bit of "work", (such as seeking out stores that will sell with a cc, etc.}, to be able to do what I'm doing. It's not always easy, and it's frequently time consuming, but the results are worth it.
Jun 8, 2014, 10:52 am
#395
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 775
You don't have a SO "YES I DO or other family member you can trust to give you the $1K back from Amazon payments each month? SURE I DO You don't have any bills that can be paid with Evolve?MANY You don't have any stores in your area that will sell you a $500 GC with a cc? NO If all of the above are true, then it's not that I'm lucky, it's that you are quite unlucky. -- YES I am
I've spent a lot of time studying, and done quite a bit of "work", (such as seeking out stores that will sell with a cc, etc.}, to be able to do what I'm doing. It's not always easy, and it's frequently time consuming, but the results are worth it.
-- YES I am I've spent a lot of time studying, and done quite a bit of "work", (such as seeking out stores that will sell with a cc, etc.}, to be able to do what I'm doing. It's not always easy, and it's frequently time consuming, but the results are worth it.
- I will first try on my own and if I have "any" question I will turn to you- things always change and what works today may not tomorrow -many things-- when not in states I can not even sign up for some things ---like Evolve C.C. Are doable not GC
Jun 8, 2014, 4:26 pm
#396
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 3,677
I didn't realize you are not currently in the states. That indeed makes things much more difficult. In that sense, I am lucky (to be here). And you are not unlucky, just not in the best place to MS.
Jun 10, 2014, 12:08 pm
#397
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: USA
Programs: All of em...
Posts: 1,265
Nobody found a link for the Amex no annual fee HHonors card? (not the Surpass) since we lost the 50k/$750 link? Was just searching around but as a cardmember, it just asks me to add people to my account.
Jun 10, 2014, 12:26 pm
#398
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: USA
Programs: All of em...
Posts: 1,265
When I arrive in America - I will first try on my own and if I have "any" question I will turn to you- things always change and what works today may not tomorrow -many things-- when not in states I can not even sign up for some things ---like Evolve
C.C. Are doable not GC
- I will first try on my own and if I have "any" question I will turn to you- things always change and what works today may not tomorrow -many things-- when not in states I can not even sign up for some things ---like Evolve C.C. Are doable not GC
However, if you have a family member or ex roommate that you trust really well, you can have things setup like AP, Visabuxx, etc... Those are the outlets I use and they have worked well. For myself it's my mom and old housemates who handle my mail and some deposits. Very indebted to them, so I helped my parents get to the Dominican on miles earlier this year and got hotels for my friends in Mexico! Least I could do. Setup a system you can trust if you're gonna be gone a long time, but it does work. I can say that w/confidence, and I know I'm not the only US citizen living abroad on here.
Jun 11, 2014, 7:36 am
#399
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 775
Having lived in S America the last 2 years (almost), I can testify that things are more difficult to MS here. Being a missionary, I have hardly any expenses, and not many places accept credit cards here either; and that's if I can get the cards here to begin with!
However, if you have a family member or ex roommate that you trust really well, you can have things setup like AP, Visabuxx, etc... Those are the outlets I use and they have worked well. For myself it's my mom and old housemates who handle my mail and some deposits. Very indebted to them, so I helped my parents get to the Dominican on miles earlier this year and got hotels for my friends in Mexico! Least I could do. Setup a system you can trust if you're gonna be gone a long time, but it does work. I can say that w/confidence, and I know I'm not the only US citizen living abroad on here.
However, if you have a family member or ex roommate that you trust really well, you can have things setup like AP, Visabuxx, etc... Those are the outlets I use and they have worked well. For myself it's my mom and old housemates who handle my mail and some deposits. Very indebted to them, so I helped my parents get to the Dominican on miles earlier this year and got hotels for my friends in Mexico! Least I could do. Setup a system you can trust if you're gonna be gone a long time, but it does work. I can say that w/confidence, and I know I'm not the only US citizen living abroad on here.
Jun 11, 2014, 10:01 am
#400
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: USA
Programs: All of em...
Posts: 1,265
Not sure I follow you... Visabuxx, you either need a trustworthy friend to unload at the atm/deposit, or to have Citi bills to call and pay w/it. AP is AP. Check out that thread if you're unfamiliar. If you have a spouse or your parents are willing, you can add them to online savings accounts pretty easily and they never even have to touch the money to help you. Just withdraw to your joint savings account that you manage.
Jun 11, 2014, 9:46 pm
#401
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: On strike
Posts: 8,135
This thread is for discussing Hilton cards. There's an entirely different forum for MS chatter, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...-spending-719/.
Jun 14, 2014, 3:52 am
#402
Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: United, Marriott, Hilton, Starwood
Posts: 27
Update - I applied in April, completed the spend, and received the 50,000 points.
I received the offer below to upgrade to the Hilton Surpass upon logging in to my account. I upgraded 18 months ago and then downgraded 6 months ago. I thought that I needed to wait one year before upgrading again. The offer states "You will receive ....." without any mention of a disclaimer.
Any thoughts on whether I would receive the 50,000 points if I upgrade. Thanks in advance.
You will receive 50,000 Hilton HHonorsTM Bonus Points (Bonus Points) if, within the first 90 days following the date on which your Card account was opened, you charge a total of $3,000 or more of eligible purchases on your Hilton HHonorsTM SurpassŪ Card from American Express (Card) ("Threshold Amount"). The 50,000 Bonus Points will be credited to your account 8-12 weeks after you reach the Threshold Amount. The Threshold Amount consists of the combined eligible purchases of both the Basic Card Member and any Additional Card Members on a single Account. Bonus Points do not count toward elite tier qualification. American Express reserves the right to modify or revoke offer at any time You can earn 50,000 Hilton HHonorsTM Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on eligible purchases on your Card in your first 90 days of Card Membership starting from the date your account is approved. In rare instances, your period to spend $3,000 may be shorter than 90 days if there is a delay in mailing your Card or a delay in merchants submitting transactions to us. For questions regarding your Card account, please call the number on the back of your Card.
Any thoughts on whether I would receive the 50,000 points if I upgrade. Thanks in advance.
You will receive 50,000 Hilton HHonorsTM Bonus Points (Bonus Points) if, within the first 90 days following the date on which your Card account was opened, you charge a total of $3,000 or more of eligible purchases on your Hilton HHonorsTM SurpassŪ Card from American Express (Card) ("Threshold Amount"). The 50,000 Bonus Points will be credited to your account 8-12 weeks after you reach the Threshold Amount. The Threshold Amount consists of the combined eligible purchases of both the Basic Card Member and any Additional Card Members on a single Account. Bonus Points do not count toward elite tier qualification. American Express reserves the right to modify or revoke offer at any time You can earn 50,000 Hilton HHonorsTM Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on eligible purchases on your Card in your first 90 days of Card Membership starting from the date your account is approved. In rare instances, your period to spend $3,000 may be shorter than 90 days if there is a delay in mailing your Card or a delay in merchants submitting transactions to us. For questions regarding your Card account, please call the number on the back of your Card.
Jun 14, 2014, 4:18 am
#403
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,059
Breaking the Citi 8/65 Rule: Can it ever be reconsidered?
I made a mistake of applying a new application when my previous one did not go through due to a credit freeze on my EXP, as I had mistakenly thought that the previous app did not "count".
Is there anyway to get Citi to recon if the rejection was due to the 8/65 rule?
Is there anyway to get Citi to recon if the rejection was due to the 8/65 rule?
Jun 14, 2014, 7:20 am
#404
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Columbus, OH
Programs: *Gold, HHonors Gold, SPG Gold, Club Carlson Gold,
Posts: 69
Breaking the Citi 8/65 Rule: Can it ever be reconsidered?
How much did you break it by?