Questions: Scandinavia on Points
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When new, higher price categories are introduced by Choice for the Nordic Choice properties, it usually comes in for the newest additions to the Nordic Choice group while not impacting the award pricing at older properties as much (if at all). The history of the Quality View in Malmö coming available for US choice point bookings was the first big award price category hike in Scandinavia to give me a window into the awfully bad regional hotel value that can be had from points+cash bookings and even points-only bookings. And that was probably closer to 5-6 years ago.
Does anyone know if I cancel a points reservation, do the points get returned to my account immediately? I'm still thinking of swapping out a reservation but don't want to cancel the existing one if it is going to take time for the refund of points, in case the one I want to switch to sells out.
By the way, I still seem to face issues getting emails for these award bookings. So it may make sense to screen capture your booking details so you have them in case the booking emails don’t show up in the email boxes.
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#92
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It's funny, tonight was the first night I noticed that I didn't get a confirmation email for an award booking. I'm sure it's happened before, if you've noticed it, I just never have. I'm almost always booking about half an hour before I arrive at a hotel, and they've always had me in the system, so somehow I never noticed.
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It's funny, tonight was the first night I noticed that I didn't get a confirmation email for an award booking. I'm sure it's happened before, if you've noticed it, I just never have. I'm almost always booking about half an hour before I arrive at a hotel, and they've always had me in the system, so somehow I never noticed.
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Seems like some Nordic Choice places that have senior staff around to deal with my checkouts and/or settlement for the US Choice award bookings are more likely to do things that disable earning of Nordic Choice credit for such stays booked using US Choice points than younger/newer staff.
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Was that property previously 30k or 35k per night?
When new, higher price categories are introduced by Choice for the Nordic Choice properties, it usually comes in for the newest additions to the Nordic Choice group while not impacting the award pricing at older properties as much (if at all). The history of the Quality View in Malmö coming available for US choice point bookings was the first big award price category hike in Scandinavia to give me a window into the awfully bad regional hotel value that can be had from points+cash bookings and even points-only bookings. And that was probably closer to 5-6 years ago.
When new, higher price categories are introduced by Choice for the Nordic Choice properties, it usually comes in for the newest additions to the Nordic Choice group while not impacting the award pricing at older properties as much (if at all). The history of the Quality View in Malmö coming available for US choice point bookings was the first big award price category hike in Scandinavia to give me a window into the awfully bad regional hotel value that can be had from points+cash bookings and even points-only bookings. And that was probably closer to 5-6 years ago.
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I’ve had reasonable luck with finding Skt Petri award availability, but it and The Thief in Oslo are definitely two of the more difficult Nordic Choice properties for me to book using US Choice points. Yasuragi and Copperhill are the other two Nordic Choice properties where finding award availability have been a challenge for me in a way that doesn’t hit me with most other Nordic Choice properties of relevance to me.
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The Villa Copenhagen was available for point bookings this past summer, and it came into the Nordic Choice fold before the recent end of the “outage” applicable to using US Choice points for Nordic Choice properties. I just don’t recall if the price was 40k points during July and August or if it was lower, but I know I found the point price value then to not be worth it.
I’ve had reasonable luck with finding Skt Petri award availability, but it and The Thief in Oslo are definitely two of the more difficult Nordic Choice properties for me to book using US Choice points. Yasuragi and Copperhill are the other two Nordic Choice properties where finding award availability have been a challenge for me in a way that doesn’t hit me with most other Nordic Choice properties of relevance to me.
I’ve had reasonable luck with finding Skt Petri award availability, but it and The Thief in Oslo are definitely two of the more difficult Nordic Choice properties for me to book using US Choice points. Yasuragi and Copperhill are the other two Nordic Choice properties where finding award availability have been a challenge for me in a way that doesn’t hit me with most other Nordic Choice properties of relevance to me.
Use reward points to book this hotelSep 26, 2021 - Sep 28, 2023:Sun - Thu 40000 /RoomFri - Sat 40000 /Room
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I saw The Thief for tonight at 20k points. It was a first attempt to look for someone wanting to stay for a night there this weekend and it wasn't a problem. It's usually been easier for me to find availability at The Thief than with the Skt Petri in Copenhagen; but I tend to be looking more at the Skt Petri and doing so more last minute than when I am looking at The Thief.
Since a lot of Nordic Choice hotels seem to have been bringing back online their older staff and as the newer staff coming online are learning, I'm actually finding more and more of the hotels are actively looking for my Nordic Choice Club number and adding it in for my US Choice award bookings for Nordic Choice hotels. This is happening to me primarily at the hotels where the hotel staff knows my habit of giving them the Nordic Choice Club number for my convenience during the stay, but it seems to primarily be a day-of-check-in thing.
What I am also finding is that some of the newer Nordic Choice hotels are actually a lower point level using Nordic Choice Club points than US Choice points when looking at some of the smaller markets in the region. Of course earning rates are very different; but as my NCC points are often being racked up on award stays using US Choice points, I consider the NCC points to be sort of like free gravy.
Since a lot of Nordic Choice hotels seem to have been bringing back online their older staff and as the newer staff coming online are learning, I'm actually finding more and more of the hotels are actively looking for my Nordic Choice Club number and adding it in for my US Choice award bookings for Nordic Choice hotels. This is happening to me primarily at the hotels where the hotel staff knows my habit of giving them the Nordic Choice Club number for my convenience during the stay, but it seems to primarily be a day-of-check-in thing.
What I am also finding is that some of the newer Nordic Choice hotels are actually a lower point level using Nordic Choice Club points than US Choice points when looking at some of the smaller markets in the region. Of course earning rates are very different; but as my NCC points are often being racked up on award stays using US Choice points, I consider the NCC points to be sort of like free gravy.
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I saw The Thief for tonight at 20k points. It was a first attempt to look for someone wanting to stay for a night there this weekend and it wasn't a problem. It's usually been easier for me to find availability at The Thief than with the Skt Petri in Copenhagen; but I tend to be looking more at the Skt Petri and doing so more last minute than when I am looking at The Thief.
Since a lot of Nordic Choice hotels seem to have been bringing back online their older staff and as the newer staff coming online are learning, I'm actually finding more and more of the hotels are actively looking for my Nordic Choice Club number and adding it in for my US Choice award bookings for Nordic Choice hotels. This is happening to me primarily at the hotels where the hotel staff knows my habit of giving them the Nordic Choice Club number for my convenience during the stay, but it seems to primarily be a day-of-check-in thing.
What I am also finding is that some of the newer Nordic Choice hotels are actually a lower point level using Nordic Choice Club points than US Choice points when looking at some of the smaller markets in the region. Of course earning rates are very different; but as my NCC points are often being racked up on award stays using US Choice points, I consider the NCC points to be sort of like free gravy.
Since a lot of Nordic Choice hotels seem to have been bringing back online their older staff and as the newer staff coming online are learning, I'm actually finding more and more of the hotels are actively looking for my Nordic Choice Club number and adding it in for my US Choice award bookings for Nordic Choice hotels. This is happening to me primarily at the hotels where the hotel staff knows my habit of giving them the Nordic Choice Club number for my convenience during the stay, but it seems to primarily be a day-of-check-in thing.
What I am also finding is that some of the newer Nordic Choice hotels are actually a lower point level using Nordic Choice Club points than US Choice points when looking at some of the smaller markets in the region. Of course earning rates are very different; but as my NCC points are often being racked up on award stays using US Choice points, I consider the NCC points to be sort of like free gravy.
Also it looks like all the new Nordic choice hotels aren't going up in price aka not seeing low redemption rates. I also notice that Svalbard now has a choice hotel. It is only 12k a night and availability is excellent. Temped to fly up there this winter for the northern lights or next summer.
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The Thief usually has some availability open up when your looking last minute. I think they open up award availability if they haven't sold all the base rooms like a day before check in. It the same way I got a Thief booking in August.
Also it looks like all the new Nordic choice hotels aren't going up in price aka not seeing low redemption rates. I also notice that Svalbard now has a choice hotel. It is only 12k a night and availability is excellent. Temped to fly up there this winter for the northern lights or next summer.
Also it looks like all the new Nordic choice hotels aren't going up in price aka not seeing low redemption rates. I also notice that Svalbard now has a choice hotel. It is only 12k a night and availability is excellent. Temped to fly up there this winter for the northern lights or next summer.
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Maybe something to do with the hotel ownership/management? Among Choice-affiliated hotels in the Nordics, it's the Ascend properties that tend to be the ones that have serious availability issues that come up a times as a result of a technical problem and/or some other issue/restriction. And even among the Ascend ones in the region, this Svalbard property has been the one that has been among the most common Nordic Ascend properties to be more often "offline" for some reason or another.
This Svalbard property opened right after WW2 and it was long owned by a Norwegian mining company; that mining company then sold it around 30 years ago to Hurtigruten Svalbard. For some reason it was renamed to its current name around 2018. I know that in the year following -- in 2019 -- that the Hurtigruten cruises had problems with getting Russian approval for trips and so there were some cancellations.
This Svalbard property opened right after WW2 and it was long owned by a Norwegian mining company; that mining company then sold it around 30 years ago to Hurtigruten Svalbard. For some reason it was renamed to its current name around 2018. I know that in the year following -- in 2019 -- that the Hurtigruten cruises had problems with getting Russian approval for trips and so there were some cancellations.
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Maybe something to do with the hotel ownership/management? Among Choice-affiliated hotels in the Nordics, it's the Ascend properties that tend to be the ones that have serious availability issues that come up as a result of a technical problem and/or policy restriction. And even among the Ascend ones in the region, this Svalbard property has been the one that has been among the most common to be more often "offline" for some reason or another.
This Svalbard property opened right after WW2 and it was long owned by a Norwegian mining company which then sold it around 30 years ago to Hurtigruten Svalbard. For some reason it was renamed to its current name around 2018.
This Svalbard property opened right after WW2 and it was long owned by a Norwegian mining company which then sold it around 30 years ago to Hurtigruten Svalbard. For some reason it was renamed to its current name around 2018.