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Originally Posted by exbayern
(Post 12114765)
South German Bakery in Beijing (I believe that they have recently opened a 2nd location) has wonderful German meals, including a wide variety of open faced sandwich plates and traditional German breakfast plates with cheeses. Finding decent German food is usually an oxymoron, but I love this place.
Kempinski Beijing has a rather overpriced deli (which recently relocated across the lobby) which has a small variety. Lots of German influence in Shanghai, including several German restaurants ranging from mediocre to mediocre. JW Marriott at Tomorrow Square has a small deli area in the lobby with some good cheese and cheese sandwiches. I cannot comment on Marks and Spencer other than the Shanghai location is small and randomly stocked, but they may have something of interest. I don't actually eat a lot of dairy outside of Germany but have found some very good cheese in China. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 19583562)
I've been getting sandwiches at the Portman location for years... one of the best deals in Shanghai (i.e. 1/4 the price of Wags).
I had the cheeseboard at Enoterra on wuding lu the other day and it was good, albeit expensive. |
I'm still wondering when good Chinese food will get to the US...
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Originally Posted by BuildingMyBento
(Post 19615063)
I'm still wondering when good Chinese food will get to the US...
Those in higher central and local government positions get their food delivered from special organic farms that do not deliver to the general population. The rest of us are basically left on our own devices guessing what substances have possibly been added to this or that food item. And the immense pollution means that even without added harmful substances you can never be sure what toxins might be included. At least I will not touch any Chinese dairy products even with a long pole if it can be avoided. |
Originally Posted by mosburger
(Post 19615237)
At least I will not touch any Chinese dairy products even with a long pole if it can be avoided. |
Next time I go to the Mengniu dairy I need to teach them how to make fromage, it is so easy to make as well as a great treat.
BTW you should not boycott them for any reason, in fact they are basically operationally run by a group of germans! Maybe they'd be up for making the german version of fromage in quark :) |
Thanks gents.
I was more or less trying to explain why imported cheese is a rather important part of the calcium intake in China. Actually this week, most food products at least in Beijing should be safe as restaurants and shops would face serious punishment for rocking the stability during the 18th Party Congress with any kind of food scandal. ;) Btw, I've sampled a few of Dimo's meat products mentioned earlier and their take on Classic German hams and sausages is really not that bad. Somewhat value for money. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 19583562)
I've been getting sandwiches at the Portman location for years... one of the best deals in Shanghai (i.e. 1/4 the price of Wags).
Btw, any recommendations on a "Western" brunch type meal in Pudong/Lujiazui? Either at hotels or independent restaurants. |
Originally Posted by mosburger
(Post 19615237)
Just as background information on imported food in China: No food safety at all regarding domestically produced food, inspections can be avoided through bribes and/or connections.
Those in higher central and local government positions get their food delivered from special organic farms that do not deliver to the general population. The rest of us are basically left on our own devices guessing what substances have possibly been added to this or that food item. And the immense pollution means that even without added harmful substances you can never be sure what toxins might be included. At least I will not touch any Chinese dairy products even with a long pole if it can be avoided. |
Originally Posted by Steph3n
(Post 19626484)
Next time I go to the Mengniu dairy I need to teach them how to make fromage, it is so easy to make as well as a great treat.
BTW you should not boycott them for any reason, in fact they are basically operationally run by a group of germans! Maybe they'd be up for making the german version of fromage in quark :) |
Originally Posted by BuildingMyBento
(Post 20394759)
I don't boycott 'em, I just think the usual dairy companies in China produce terrible milk. That's a benefit to being in the south often, getting the Kowloon Dairy brand. It's not great, but it's much more palatable IMO than Mengniu for instance.
About cheese plates, the Raddison Blu Tianjin has a good one, along with real blue cheese dressing for the salads and very good swiss cheese in the quiche somehow I didn't get a picture of the cheese plate, maybe because we devoured it all so quickly! https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...-49-31_757.jpg In Dalian I also seem to be missing a picture of the cheese plate, but it was very good, and large at the Olive Garden (no not the US Chain, a mom and pop place in China, which has/had better food than the chain!) So being that I don't have a picture of the cheese plate I will have to show the really tasty feta that was on the salad: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...19-58-25_8.jpg |
Originally Posted by mosburger
(Post 20387996)
Btw, any recommendations on a "Western" brunch type meal in Pudong/Lujiazui? Either at hotels or independent restaurants.
Just stay away in the evenings, their dishes are mediocre at most. Salads not bad, though. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 19583562)
I've been getting sandwiches at the Portman location for years... one of the best deals in Shanghai (i.e. 1/4 the price of Wags).
Steady, good quality. Gruyere is gone from the cheese options but at least Cheddar and Gouda still available. Shanghai is beginning to feel the summer heat...Lucky to be on the KA escape pod coming week. |
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